LOL, what the hell is this bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? The Earth is flat? There is a conspiracy against a flat earth? Um, why? Why would there be a conspiracy against a flat Earth? There is no agenda that I could possibly think of that would warrant a massive conspiracy.
This discussion is but a series of repeated arguments. I do not mean to be rude however this has been mentioned several times now. If you are truly interested read this threads first 10 pages or so. Im sure it will not take too long.
I did read the thread and your arguments are utter crap. 1) What would be the purpose of a mass conspiracy that includes every single government agency in the entire world as well as anybody that owns a telescope in the world. What profit would be made? The only answer I hear is that space agencies are somehow making "huge" profits off of this. HAH! 2) How do solar and lunar eclipses work? 3) Ice wall? AN ICE WALL? Where is this ice wall, how tall is it, and why has it never been seen by anybody apparently? 4) Go take a telescope out to the harbor and watch sailboats coming in. Why do you see the top of the sails come over the horizon before ANY other part of the boat? 5) Why point to Columbus as some authority on the matter, or FDR even? Columbus didn't think that the Earth was flat; it was an accepted fact that the Earth was a sphere at that time. You know what, it's basically futile with you people. You not only have to discard that the Earth is round, you have to throw out almost EVERY accepted scientific theory that has ever been created. It ALL has to be a conspiracy.
All government agencies? Everyone who owns a telescope? No, you are merely under a misapprehension. You would be surprised how few it would take to execute this. These numbers have been mentioned. If you do not agree with them please state why. People have seen whats called the ice wall. Its known as antartica, its simply not what everyone thinks. True, despite common thought, Columbus did believe the earth was round, it was his crew which thought it was flat which almost led to mutiny. F.D.R was just a name I mentioned that people would know, reality is that many Harvard grads and other scholars have, and still do believe the earth is a plane. Eclipses are caused by a celestial body known as an anti moon which is very close to the sun preventing its appearance, however when perfectly alligned, creats an eclipse.
You didn't even answer the main issue. What purpose would be accomplished? Uh...huh. And the people that have circumnavigated Antarctica? Many? Try none or next to none. Who? And has this "anti-moon" ever been seen? And why avoid the question about sailboats?
You have explanations as to the theories you know which supports mainstream science and a spherical earth. I know the earth to be flat, I do not necssarily need to understand how DE and DM accellerate and have formed the plane we currently occupy. Just as even though there are conflicting theories regarding a spherical earth and DE,DM,AM,DF, one does not have to fully comprehend these ideas to believe the earth is a sphere. Prove to me the earth is a sphere, not that I cannot substantiate my claims due to several conflicting theories that many great minds still debate over today.
Give me ONE piece of evidence that supports a flat Earth theory. Give me ONE piece of conflicting evidence for a spherical Earth besides "I think it's a conspiracy".
There is a vast amount of wealth achieved from perpetuating this scam. More than you currently know. Nobody has ever circumnavigated antartica. You see the anti moon during an eclipse, you have witnessed it with your very eyes. The question regarding boats was not ignored, it has been answered earlier. This is not observed on land at the same distance. I have been to the vast planes of AZ in my investigations and this is not observed by the plateaus.
How? How is wealth being made? Globe sales? Uh, yes they have. http://www.nowpublic.com/world/russian-sets-record-solo-circumnavigation-antarctica Jon Sanders was the first to do it in 1981 AND he did it again in 1982. Ever hear of the Antarctica Cup? They race AROUND Antarctica. Oh, these must be conspiracies as well. Why don't you just say magic? You are basically saying an undetectable and invisible celestial body blocks the sun SOMEHOW with it's invisible body at a point when it would make sense for the moon to block the sun? Why not just (*)(*)(*)(*)ing say it's magic? Is there an antisun as well? If not, what causes lunar eclipses? Oh, I didn't know that boats sailed on land in Arizona, my apologies. What a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing joke.
Quick fix - I just read up on this "antimoon" and apparently it IS your explanation for the lunar eclipses. Still, I require explanation as to how an invisible and undetectable object the exact size of the Sun is apparently blocking the sun, while still remaining invisible.
We have provided you with lots of evidence for the theory of a sphere-like earth, however your counter arguments are not supported by scientific evidence, they are maybes. MAYBE NASA and KFC are in a conspiracy to dupe government agencies for lots of money. MAYBE there is an antimoon that blocks the sun when there is an eclipse. MAYBE there is Dark Matter that is accelerating earth and every other object in space at a constant rate. MAYBE there are moonshrimp on the moon that emit light and MAYBE that light drives people insane. MAYBE no one has ever circumnavigated Antartica and those who said they did are just lying. Each and every one of your arguments you have no scientific evidence for, your claims and anecdotal evidence are less than impressive. By the way saying that many great scientific minds are debating over a thoery does not proove anything, unless you can provide us with some of the evidence over which they are arguing or with the testimonial of a few noted scientists.
You have simply confused yourself. Alleged visible curvature does not appear on land. Only in the water. Why do you think this is? Doesnt matter if you know or not, the only thing that matters is that this, if true, would work on the land as well. Not saying ships sail in the desert, I know you are so obsessed with employing sarcasm that you do so with little efficiency and without actually thinking about things. Plateaus would appear this way as well so long as the point of observation was equal distance. This is why everyone who argued this point thus far has moved on, it just doesnt work.
That isn't evidence, that's an argument from ignorance. I could tell you that the moon looks like Swiss cheese, but that isn't evidence that the moon is Swiss cheese.
Of COURSE you'd only address the ships thing nag ignore the rest. I'm sorry, but if you go to a vast plain and use something other than your EYES then yes, the same phenomenon exists. Did you use binoculars to watch cars come over the horizon? I doubt it.
But it's testable. It doesn't have to be the only data-point. We can use "stationary" points like the stars and natural land-marks to determine how accurate travel using these types of instruments can be. People literally use it every day in their phones and cars to get where they need to go. This is confirmed by natural land-marks and the stars. Boats use their own navigation equipment, as well as the stars, GPS and everything else available to them. You can go "around" the Earth by traveling in a relatively straight line. What's KFC? Kentucky Fried Chicken?
Those theories are easily testable by private persons like yourself. Research it. You know it "appears" flat from your vantage point. That's because the Earth is so massive compared to tiny people.
We have provided loads of evidence throughout this thread and the other threads, however when one member of the argument can dismiss any evidence on the notion that a government agency and a fast food chain made it up the whole argument becomes pointless. we have photos by scientific government agencies, mathematical equations pertaining to the distance from the sun to the earth, evidence about the movement of celestial bodies in the sky which would be impossible unless there was some kind of rotation and orbit to the earth's movements. We have evidence that people have gone straight through Antarctica and come to the other side. I think we have plenty of evidence. That sounds scientific enough, lets slap it in a few science books and call it a day...
It is an observation. You think the moon is cheese, attempt experiments to further advance your theory.
No need for apologies kind friend you have done nothing wrong. The statement you have made is false. This argument is only employed utilizing the conditions of ships or other in a large body of water. I have ignored you, go back or something. I have adressed most of what you have said. If I missed an important point then I will stand corrected, perhaps you could point it out for me.
Experiments have also been conducted with results indicating a flat earth. Other wise people would have no reason to believe it. I have observed this at altitudes where curvature should by all accounts be visible, there is nothing.
I could present you with a photo of a realistic looking flat earth as well, would you believ its flat then? Equations will not suffice here, you can try to make them work for you but it will not do in the long run. You would think it would be impossible because the conspiracy (NASA,KFC) has you brainwashed.
