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Discussion in 'Member Casual Chat' started by Jack Napier, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I'm not condemning them for their sexuality. There is nothing wrong with being gay, but having unprotected anal sex does increase your chances of contracting some kind of infection. So if a gay man had unprotected sex with multiple partners, he couldn't complain when he got HIV, could he? He was a walking time bomb.

    Yes...and no. It depends. We know that smoking and drinking isn't healthy for us. People who smoke 20 a day for years and who then get lung cancer have no right to whinge and sook about unfair it is. They knew the risks, and as far as I am concerned, they deserve to suffer the consequences.

    Why should I have sympathy for those who act irresponsibly?
     
  2. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    He couldn't complain, but that doesn't mean I want him to get HIV. That is just hateful. I would feel very sorry for him if that were the case.

    You don't have to be sympathetic. I could care less. My problem is that you're wishing harm on them, and that is just hateful and spiteful.

    Let me tell you a couple of stories so you know where I'm coming from.

    First story: One of my childhood friends overdosed on heroin and died. After they buried him, I went on a drinking binge for two days because I was so depressed and distraught. What you're saying is that if I had hurt myself or suffered permanent damage, I would have deserved it. To me, that is just wrong. I may have been acting reckless, but that does not mean I deserved to suffer severe harm. I bet you would say my friend deserved to die, too.

    Another story: I spent seven months in Iraq on a combat deployment and while I was there I smoked cigarettes like a chimney. It was the only way for me to alleviate the immense stress I was under. What you're saying is that if I had gotten a lung or heart disease from smoking so much, I would have deserved it. Again, this is just a hateful and mean-spirited viewpoint.

    Bottom line: You've basically wished disease, injury, depression, anxiety, anguish, and possibly death upon me simply because you disapprove of my choices, even though those choices had absolutely no effect on you or anyone else. To me, THAT is immoral and something you should change. It's hateful and spiteful and it's just an unhealthy way to view other people.
     
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  3. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    If your friend was a drug addict, then I am sorry that I don't feel sorry for him. If you play with fire you have to expect to get burned.

    Drinking and smoking due to stress isn't the same thing. I can understand why you would have done those things. If you became ill because of it, I would be sorry to hear that.
    I am speaking only of those people who put their lives in danger and then have the gall to complain when it all catches up to them.

    A person who eats themselves out of house and home can't really demand a gastric band, can they? They made themselves fat, they should suffer the consequences of that.

    My grandpa died of lung cancer. He used to smoke during the war, but he also smoked long after he knew smoking could kill him. He had quit for ten years before he was diagnosed with cancer, but even so, his continuing to smoke even after he knew what it was doing probably contributed to his death.
    I loved my grandpop dearly, but he made his choices and had to deal with them.

    My uncle needs a second lung transplant. He has emphesema. He probably won't last another year. He smoked long after he knew it was killing him and only quit when he was diagnosed. Those poor choices are what landed him in the situation he is now. I love my uncle, but again, he made his choices and I can't find as much sympathy for him as I could for someone who become ill through no fault of their own.
     
  4. Ethereal

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    I'm not asking you to feel sorry for anyone. My problem is that you're wishing harm on others. There is a difference between not feeling sorry for someone and wishing them harm. The former is indicative of indifference while the latter is indicative of malice and spite. It's somewhat acceptable to be indifferent (even though I think you should still be empathetic) towards the misfortunes of others, but to wish severe harm and disease on them is just malicious and hateful.
     
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    "'Maybe' he learned something..." Big 'maybe'.. If a guy did it once, there's a chance he would do it again. It's an unconscionable, heinous act and many victims have a very difficult time getting their lives back to normal.... some live w/ the horror of it forever.

    Ok, on to the 'casual lovers'...... that's a lifestyle that would have never worked for me - to monogamous, I guess - but to wish the worst for those who live a 'casual sex' life is quite malevolent, I think.

    I'm sure some learn that it's not worth it - then others just prefer that lifestyle..... it's all up to the individual.....

    One time a co-worker confided in me that she had once been a hooker in Seattle. She got caught up in the worst profession possible in her late teens and after several yrs, realized she had to get away from it and she did. She knew there was a better life for her and she worked until she found it..... you think she should have been inflicted w/a horrible disease? I don't.......she left behind a bad childhood, very abusive father which led into prostitution - she had suffered enuf and finally found a good life after many mistakes.....

    Now I'm going to bed ..... Good nite......
     
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    Well that is nonsense. It all depends on a number of variables, and basically how nice you are to the women after you stop being sexually involved with them. I am still friends with about a dozen women I have slept with, and in fact my best female friend is the person I first ever had any sexual contact with in my life. We never actually had sex, but when we were both 15, we did just about everything else. We are now great friends, and I talk to her on a regular basis. It just so happens, that some men can talk to women after having seen their vagina, without turning to giggles. And the same can be said of many women, who can see a guys penis without doing the same. It is quite possible to maintain friendships, it is just a matter of how you deal with the people you have sex with. If you treat them well, even when you are not having sex with them, then there is no reason you need to stop being friends.
     
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    You are a prude. Sex is ABSOLUTELY something you do when you feel a bit horny!! Or at least something you try to do(it doesn't always come off). Being horny is your body telling you to go have sex. You choose to ignore that signal to uphold some strange moral code, that I don't actually understand. You are an irreligious person, yet your moral standards are imbued with religious dogma. Seems silly to me.
     
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    Same here. I'm still friendly with some girls I've slept with. No big deal, really.
     
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    Charming!! :fart:

    I am sure that is why you had to go the mail order bride route, and order your bride online from a 3rd world country, because YOU would not have women!! :giggle: From your posts you seem like such a charmer, I would imagine you would have American women falling all over themselves for you. Shockingly that doesn't seem to be the case!!
     
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    frodly Well-Known Member

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    Excellent post!! I would rep you, but it says I need to spread my rep around(I think mak would disapprove, and would wish disease on the people who spread their rep around). See, as long as we avoid talking about economics, we could get along great!! :wink:
     
  11. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    My point was that we are not meant to go and screw random people one after the other. Have some self control.
     
  12. Chariot

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    So, because you feel a little horny, you should go have sex and potentialy ruin two peoples lives. The woman and the child you might plant in her. All for an HOUR of fun. Is it worth it?
     
  13. Ethereal

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    Indeed! We're both a couple of whores who love the Bears! We're like two peas in a pod...:)
     
  14. frodly

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    This is an idiotic argument. Almost everything I do, that involves leaving the house, has the potential for "ruining peoples lives."(a strange way to look at pregnancy, but whatever). Every time I get into the car, there is a potential that I will get into a car accident and kill myself or another person, or at least seriously injure myself or another person. All things have risks, and yet to allow yourself to be paralyzed by fear is absurd. I know people who ARE irresponsible sexually. They sleep around, and don't use protection. That is stupid. I am not don juan by any means, but I DO have sex with a reasonable number of women. I always use protection, and almost all the women I have had sex with were on birth control. So I can decide between 2 alternatives. Either I can live my life accepting that almost everything I do has certain risks, or I can allow myself to be paralyzed by the fear of those potential risks. I prefer the latter.


    PS. People who demonize sex are almost without exception bad at it, and have almost all similarly had very little of it. When you actually have sex, you realize it is a very nice thing, and it should be enjoyed and not feared. It is not the most important thing in life, but it is quite nice, and something I partake in as often as possible!!
     
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    Twisted logic.

    Rape is wrong and one must live in a cave and been raised by wolves not to know that (assuming you come fro a civilized country where rape is a crime). Do you believe that the woman is to blame for some sicko's action - even if she's a 60 year old woman or a 12 year old child?? Do you also believe that the "victim" learned a lesson?
     
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    this is absolutely HILARIOUS!!

    you are just adament that a woman shouldn't be 'forced' to have a baby (the direct consequence of having sex), but you think everyone else should suffer the consequences of their irresponsibility...

    total hypocracy.

    fat people should suffer the consequences,

    gay men should suffer for their choices

    smokers should suffer..

    drug addicts should suffer..

    but nooooo not women that get pregnant...they are helpless waifs and should be viewed with sympathy and given free abortion on demand so their delicate and precious bodies won't get stretch marks...

    I have rarely seen such hypocracy. I would rep you for the sheer gall but I dont' think your behaviour warrants a reward.
     
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    Sure. And like I said, you're basically like people who wish AIDS on gay people.

    And I like how your position changed from "I hope people who have casual sex get a disease" to "I don't have sympathy for people who don't use condoms then get a disease".
    Is there a reason for the change?
     
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    Because some people have trouble grasping the concept of "herd immunity".
     
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    Whores get paid for sex. Don't confuse women who have sex because they want to with women who have sex because they have to.
    BTW, I find it interesting that you're really only talking about women getting diseases (and calling them whores). I hope someday you move past your misogyny.
     
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    Speak for yourself. What you consider 'nonsense', I don't....obviously, we are of 2 different opinions on this subject and what works for you would not work for me......

    I had a brother-in-law whom I had always liked - we got along well. Then one day he made a suggestion to me that shocked me - I was stunned. When I could finally speak I just said "I'm going to pretend that you never asked me that - don't ever say anything like that to me again' and left.

    As far as I was concerned, our friendship and my comfort zone w/him stopped - it was never the same after that. I never told his wife and never told my bf b/c I knew Tom would go after him and it would get ugly.

    There's one thing about most of you guys (I don't mean you, personally) what makes you think every woman wants your body?
     
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    Wow! Lol ... boy, you really nailed this one!

    Mak, you really should take that rusty halo off your head .... lol.......
     
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    Lord please forgive me and may God bless the Pygmies in New Guinea.
     
  23. Jack Napier

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    Whores.

    A hint that you seem to approve of actual violence against women, before.

    Bigging up places like Thailand.

    The Greeks.

    The Romans.

    The women's movement.

    This is sort of like a word lottery, isn't it.

    You select words and phrases at random, then just put down what comes out.

    Isn't it?
     
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    only a fool marrys today.....there is nothing in it for the guy.....you get divorced you still get half his assets...and for what? the same thing between the legs other got for free.....what a joke......and what a bunch of losers for marrying :)
     
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    all this nonsence I keep hearing " GIRL POWER" you think I dont know that in reality woman are laughing at man's stupidity?
     

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