Can Rick Perry defeat Barack Obama?

That's exactly what I've been saying. Other than Ron Paul, the GOP candidates will only appeal to Christian and tea party conservatives. Ron Paul would appeal more to moderates and many liberals, simply because he doesn't have the big government "big bad Republican" vibe about him, and his anti-war views. Also, I've never seen Paul be stumped in an argument against someone, he would absolutely WRECK Obama in a one-on-one debate.

 

Ron Paul only appeals to liberals who ignore all of his ideas except the war position or who think destroying the Fed sounds like a good idea (and leftists who think that are usually clueless).

Ron Paul is a paleoconservative who has gotten mixed up with libertarianism because the central goal of conservatism has become "states' rights" so they can turn New Hampshire into their utopia and forget about people in the south.
His views on abortion and economics are enough to anger any liberal. And these things will come out.

Moderates... not a consistent group. All over the place.
Paul would not get votes from neo-cons and other hawkish conservatives. Even as they playfully talk nice of him now in the Weekly Standard, the moment he gets the candidacy, Bill Kristol will explode.
Ironically the xenophobes who most hate Obama will not support Paul because they'll see his "blowback" talk as evidence of not fighting the Islamic Hordes.

Paul will get less popular with non-conservatives as he gets air.
And he can't win a large, powerful portion of the GOP vote-- they'd sooner vote third party or even for Obama.

 

I'm with you on that, DM.
We are in a real pickle for sure. On one hand, Obama is no good and should be replaced. Replacing him with someone like Perry, or Romney...will be a shoo-in for someone worse than BO next time around.
So yes, I'll either vote or write in Paul, that I can live with.

 

Ha,ha, dreaming doesn't make reality. Of all the bimbos the Republicans have come up with, Mitt Romney is probably the smartest but the Reps/cons are too dumb to realize it and will probably end up choosing Perry......ah, thank you conservatives!

Considering the hopefuls the Republicans (ala Tea Party have elevated to the top, I'm not surprised that most Tea Partiers would think they are better qualified than Obama - of course, you have to consider the source.

I'd much rather listen to the whining and complaining and bad-mouthing and have a smart President, than have to subject the country to more of the same (ala Bushwhacked) - who needs another melt down? Geez, we'd surely become a third world country under Bachmann or Perry!

 

When did I throw religion at you? not to mention nobody seems to mind when Obama does it,,do they?

 

I never claimed you threw religion at me. I am positive you wouldn't do so.

I stated that Perry does it. In his speeches.

 

Hope you're enjoying Stephen Harper, he's a good man. Anyways Rick Perry isn't "shoving Religion down your Canadian throat" (more like you're shoving your nose in our business) he's merely courting the religious vote in the same fashion Obama did it in O8 and will do it again in the general election. You're probably just too afraid to call Obama out on it out of fear of being called a racist or whatever you white people are feeling guilty of these days.

 

Perhaps you should have looked at my previous posts before you felt I would be in fear of being called a racist. I am a racist. Everybody is, and those who claim they aren't are merely lying to themselves. Furthermore, I'm not afraid to call Obama out either, since I don't care what people think of me. It's Americans who know that politicians are doing what they should not be doing and say nothing that should be a cause of concern to you.

I ended my post by saying I can't vote in the US but since CNN is broadcast here for the benefit of Canadians, he is throwing religion down my throat.

If you don't like my comments, you can always try and get me banned.

 

So he is forcing you to watch CNN? Show the post where you complained about Obama shoving his religious views down your throat then.

 

What posts are you reading? Everyone on this board hates, on both sides. More on the right? Are you kidding?? The right goes after Obama. The left goes after the Tea Party, All of the right sided candidates, and even long gone politicians like Palin. I suggest you re-count. The right is about on par with the left in terms of name calling.

The only thing I hate on this board is....the hate....coming form all sides.

As for the the rest of your post. I think Perry has a great base. He's got the Tea Party, which cannot be discounted. He's got many seniors watching him, there's a lot going on that they don't approve of. Of course I can't provide proof, but in my opinion Perry offers more than Obama does towards the senior base. The blacks wont vote for Obama, most are upset that the first African-american president in our nation was a failure, and with increasing racist comments coming from the DNC (see the black caucus recently??) they are running from the left in droves. Last election Obama had race on his side, this time around that political advantage is gone. The Latinos, well I don't know either way, but with Obama's policies I can't see that group going for Obama either.

Perry has a lot from how I see it, and remember, there's plenty more who are just watching to see what happens unannounced. This race if too early to be making any real calls, but there is one that can be made, of Obama doesn't "ship up" America will "ship him out" (of the office anyways).

 

I noticed 11 brain dead people said they would vote for obama. Where have these people been for the past 2 1/2 years as obama has been destroying our nation?

 

Don't be ridiculous. Do you get advance notice of Fox transmissions?

I haven't seen him say it but if he had, my reaction would be the same. So, on the assumption that he has made reference to Jesus Christ, my response is that I don't want Obama shoving religion down my throat.

 

Now for some truth. Neither Obamma, nor Mr. Perry, have shoved their religious views down anyone's throats on the national/international stage. What they have done is express their views to audiences (obviously they are being recorded so those whom they were not directing said comments to will hear what they have to say.) whom they knew in advance will respond favorably to. Suggesting that President Obbama or Rick Perry have at any point in time "shoved their religious views down our throats" is not unlike ease dropping on a conversation and then calling foul when you hear something you don't agree with.

 

I didn't say 'your' throats, only mine. The same would apply if a candidate in Canada were to quote religion at me. He wouldn't get my vote because as far as I am concerned religion should have no part whatsoever in politics.

 

Paying attention.

When Obama took office, the economy was tanking at a -7% real rate, losing 700,000+ jobs a month, unemployment was skyrocketing, and the stock markets were crashing in the worst recession in 80 years. The housing market was destroyed and the economy was headed straight for a depression.

Now the economy has been growing steadily for a year and a half, the private sector has created jobs every month for more than a year, stock markets are up about 70%, and the unemployment rate has fallen from above 10% to just above 9%, and 5 million private sector jobs have been added since Jan 2010.

Only a partisan invested in failure for political purposes could say that is "destroying our nation".

 

I could understand your concerns had I lived under a parliamentary system. Then Rick Perry would be potential dictator-lite type of ruler but thankfully we have a more defined system of checks and balances.

 

At least you didn't claim 'refined'

 

Although had I had a guy like Stephen Harper running for president I'd almost want him to be a dictator. You guys are lucky.

 

Looking over at the lunatics you think would be a good replacement.
Doing nothing beats doing damage.

 

I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not.

I must admit though that he is beginning to grow on me now that he has an overall majority in Parliament and can do what he wants without too much interference from the combined opposition.

And............a Conservative, to boot!

 

I'm no Rick Perry fan, I would never vote for him! But can he beat Obama, Yes. Obama can be beaten by Ron Paul as well.

 

Did you vote last election, and for the conservative party if you don't mind me asking?

I was mostly being sarcastic... But from what I've heard of him and the direction the Conservative Party in Canada is going I've been pleasantly surprised. He's kind of a war monger IMO but I suppose since you guys are in NATO he has no choice, I don't know. I am taking comparative governments this semester and we actually just began studying Canada yesterday so by next week I'll be filled in to your country's politics.

Sorry to go off-topic OP but I do have one question. Is there a significant movement in your country that wants to break away as one of the british commonwealth of nations or does the topic not come up very often? We were discussing this in class and my professor had no clue, granted C-span was his only stated source.

 

I voted NDP at the last election, having been impressed by Jack Layton, their leader who has only recently died of cancer, before he had a chance to make an impact on the country. Most electors voted for these two parties, practically wiping out the Liberal Party and the Bloc Quebecois which although in the Federal government, was only representative of Quebec.

As far as breaking away from the Commonwealth, I haven't heard much about it, certainly from a Federal point but if you mean separatism (Quebec breaking from Canada) it's now a dead duck as even the leader of the Provincial Party Quebecois has stated she will not pursue it ahead of the many problems she considers need to be fixed firstly in Quebec.

 

I wouldn't vote for Perry and wont need to.
He goes down in debate like a deflated blimp.

Romney in 2012.

 

Rick Perry beat Obama?

Don't make us laugh.

Obama is going to re-elected to keep the right-wing from getting the white house - full stop.

So, you may as well vote for obama.