‘Died Suddenly’? More Than 1-in-4 Think Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccines

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    As should have those who shoved that junk in their bodies.
     
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    Who are these “Doctors4covidethics?” I am ALWAYS suspicious about websites like this who do not list the main authors because 9/10 it is a scam

    However with some digging I found at least some of this rubbish traced back to THIS guy


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucharit_Bhakdi[/QUOTE]
    And whose information is not biased, compromised, valid, unsuspicious, relevant and accurate? For us, the TGA, and Skeritt has been bought and paid for by big pharma, and what about the CDC, corrupt to the core?

    I wonder where the lab rats get info data for the tinkering in a lab and pushing & fudging numbers up or down? Oh was that from 'raw data'?:rolleyes:
     
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    Who has been having the issues in regards to being vaxxed or unvaxxed?
     
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    It is disgusting - I did it not once, not twice but FOUR TIMES! And I haven’t had the decency to get one side effect let alone keel over and die

    How DARE I?
     
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    I would say the person posting with a fervour that suggests a false eagerness seeking validation
     
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    What is your family history of genetically acquired disease? Apparently, the jabs accelerate it.
     
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    When the ones who put a mystery cocktail that hasn't been fully tested vehemently and stands by the false narratives, the bullshit purveyed by the politicians and bureaucrats all in the name of good science, you gotta think, did I just jump off a cliff?

    How Bad is My Batch Are some batches more toxic than others?
    Batch codes and associated deaths, disabilities and illnesses for Covid 19 Vaccines
     
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    And whose information is not biased, compromised, valid, unsuspicious, relevant and accurate? For us, the TGA, and Skeritt has been bought and paid for by big pharma, and what about the CDC, corrupt to the core?

    I wonder where the lab rats get info data for the tinkering in a lab and pushing & fudging numbers up or down? Oh was that from 'raw data'?:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
    Mine mine is as unbiased as I can

    I source my information from trusted sites such as the Lancet. There is a “thing” called the “Impact factor” which measure the frequency of citations the average article in a journal receives. It is a rough measure of how well respected and used the journal is in its field
    https://researchguides.uic.edu/if/impact

    Or we can look at the Science Journal Rankings
    https://www.scimagojr.com/journalrank.php?area=2700&category=2725

    I also preview the papers i link to to ensure that the methodology is sound, the statistics are valid and the conclusions unbiased
     
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    Oh! dear! A whole website that does not understand

    Correlation does not necessarily equal causation

    And again
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    Do they?
    I am going to love seeing this *****!
     
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    That favours your argument, that is cherry-picked?
     
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    Then tell me why the large list of adverse effects, is it a lottery or something.
     
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    Can you make it any smaller, I can't see your sample of a micro-organism.

    So the victim has nothing wrong with them until they get jabbed, and you want to make that statement? So after the jab, and nothing else, their internals begin to mutate, it's caused by something else? auiqs.jpg.gif


    Nurse Collapses on Television Minutes After Receiving Covid Vaccine

    Yep, worth getting that sh!t, NOT. I've taken my chances many times and won, without that junk.
     
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    The only thing people need to know is that the covid injections are rubbish is, you look at one of the major players, Bill Gates one of them, look at what his foundation has done in the past, look at his upbringing, look at what happened in India and why they want the death penalty for him, look at him stating that the "vaccines don't block infections, they aren't broad spectrum and they don't last long". Then you have to ask yourself, wtf do they do? Just ask those who got messed up or died in India.
     
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    It repudiated what you claimed in its entirety and you think if you ignore it without addressing it, it poof goes away. Now you accuse Reuters of misrepresenting data without explain how.

    Next I will repeat again what you appear to want censored but I will get across.

    1. Dowd provided NO evidence of a direct link to death rates from people taking the vaccine. Never. The crap in the book is there for anyone to read.

    2. Your hybrid definition of an opinion that is "fact based" is a very weak attempt to try couch an inference as a fact.

    A fact is something that is proven. An opinion is something subjective and not proven. One states an opinion or a fact. Trying to combine the two as one is no different than arguing someone is a little bit pregnant.

    You appear to have issues with what a fact is, an opinion is, a correlation and an inference or assumption. None of them are the same.

    1-A fact is by definition something known or proved to be true. At no time have you or Dowd or anyone provided any evidence that Covid 19 vaccines killed anyone let alone increased death rates.

    2-An opinion is by definition a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. There is no evidence (facts) provided by you or Dowd that proves people have died of Covid 19 vaccines, let alone died in increasing numbers. You assume because more deaths are reported, the increase in deaths reported means the deaths were caused by Covid 19 vaccines yet the book you quote does NOT provide any correlation between death rates and Covid 19 vaccines being taken. None. Zero.

    3-A correlation is by definition a statistical measure that expresses the extent to which two variables are linearly related used as a tool to prove cause and effect between a specific action and a subsequent event. You and the book you quote provide no linear relation between increased reports of death and either covid 19 deaths from Covid 19 vaccines or even Covid 19 virus. In fact all your book shows and you refer to and anyone can look at that book to see for themselves is that the amount of death reports went up since Covid 19 vaccines started being given to people. It does not and has never shown in whole or part that deaths went up because of reaction to the vaccine. In fact your book does not show that, What it does show is you assume and repeat the assumption Down made, that because death reporting changed and increased to report people who also took the vaccine, you will assume with no evidence the increase in reporting only came about from the vaccine.

    4-In fact the evidence clearly repudiated that you try rely on was not misrepresented. Nothing Reuters or Politico or I or anyone else has stated in regards to your lack of correlation between death and Covid 19 vaccines was misrepresented. This is why yyou:
    a-can't specify which information I stated or Reuters or anyone else stated that you disagree with is FALSE-you can't-you have no evidence or facts to repudiate what we said so you fell back and claim its false with zero basis;
    b-you continue to claim deaths increased because of people taking Covid 19 vaccines but neither the book you quote or yourself has provided ONE report of increased death rates correlated to the Covid 19-in fact you have asked repeatedly to show in the book this correlation or to provide data showing the correlation-you can't because none exist in the book, in your responses on this thread and now in your repeat responses making a claim of a death rate correlation you do not prove, can not prove, and won't acknowledge you can't prove. You have repeatedly been asked for the data and you deflect.

    Your last deflection is in response to Langley. When he also asked you for proof people are dying from taking the vaccine, you could not answer his question and changed the subject.

    As for me when I point out your falsehoods, you make it clear I am personally attacking you. I do not personally attack you. I challenge your words and specifically your deliberate attempts to misrepresent and now try present an opinion as a fact calling it a fact based opinion.

    Please provide the data of a link between deaths and taking the Covid 19 vaccine. Provide the data. Its simple. If it exists from Dowd re-state it. It does NOT exist which is why you have not restated it.






     
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    Why did you deflect from the question asked you with the above question, You have repeatedly contended you have evidence of death rates from people taking Covid 19 vaccines. Where are they? Using a deflection can not and will not hide the fact you have no evidence from anywhere. Either provide it or admit you do not have evidence. The deflection is pointless. It hides nothing.
     
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    Yes. That's why I know with certainty that you're making up weird stuff. Remember, your gaslighting doesn't work on normal people.

    On the bright side, you're not dead or crippled from COVID. Yet. Your long-term odds are poor.

    I do admit, breathing freely and being totally healthy does make us normal vaccinated people feel totally owned by the antivaxxers, so you've got that on us. We're so jealous of your oxygen bottles.
     
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    I don't gaslight, but those who think that, are the 'special needs' individuals are far from ordinary because they're the ones who got gaslit on the whole covid scam to take the injections.

    I wonder how many do any research prior to getting jabbed? 0
     
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    COVID-induced brain fog is a real thing.
     
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    You forgot to insert "vaccines". "Covid vaccine" induced brain fog as well as...

    #1. Myocarditis

    #2. New nervous system disorders

    #3. New respiratory disorders

    #4. Blood Clots

    #5. New musculoskeletal disorders

    #6. New gastrointestinal disorders

    #7. Anaphylactic Shock (nearly 10%)

    #8. New infections, including Covid and its variants
     
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    It also shows the correlation between the Gates family, Spanish Flu and the covid scam. Go figure. Event 201, look it up.
     
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    Perspective.

    Here is a list of rare side-effects that can occur if you take a very common medication.
    • GI bleeding, ulceration, perforation, nausea, vomiting, pancreatitis, gastric irritation, GI erosions, gastritis, melena, hematemesis, gingival bleeding
    • Interstitial nephritis, papillary necrosis, renal insufficiency and failure
    • Increased bleeding tendencies
    • Aplastic anemia agranulocytosis, thrombocytopenia
    • Prolongation of prothrombin time, disseminated intravascular coagulation, coagulopathy, antepartum and postpartum bleeding, anemia
    • Anaphylactic reactions including shock
    • Urticaria, angioedema, skin rashes
    • Steven-Johnson syndrome, Lyell's syndrome, erythema nodosum, erythema multiforme
    • Transient elevations of hepatic enzymes, hepatitis, Reye's syndrome, hepatic insufficiency
    • Thirst, dehydration, hyperkalemia, metabolic acidosis, respiratory alkalosis, hypoglycemia, hyperglycemia, hyperuricemia, salt and water retention
    • Hemorrhagic vasculitis
    • Dysrhythmias, hypotension, tachycardia
    • Cerebral edema, coma headache, subdural or intracranial hemorrhage, seizures, lethargy, dizziness
    • Fever, hypothermia, hearing loss, tinnitus (at high doses), hearing disturbances
    • Rhabdomyolysis
    • Hyperpnea, pulmonary edema, tachypnea, epistaxis, dyspnea, bronchospasm, asthma
    Yet people continue to take this medication and it doesn't even require a prescription. These are horrible scary side-effects. The list with no other context would likely make many not want to take it. Fortunately, most of these side-effects are extremely rare and the medication is helpful in reducing pain and inflammation, preventing cardiovascular events and some types of cancers.

    The medication is Aspirin. One has a greater risk of dying from taking aspirin than from having a covid vaccine. Aspirin is statistically two hundred times more likely to cause death than a covid vaccine.

    And what about Acetaminophen or Paracetamol. It's worse than aspirin. It is responsible for 56,000 emergency department visits, 2,600 hospitalizations, and 500 deaths per year in the United States. Fifty percent of these are unintentional overdoses. More than 60 million Americans consume acetaminophen on a weekly basis, and many are unaware that it is contained in combined products. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441917/)

    Yet, people keep taking both despite rare side-effects and risk of death.

    Perspective:

    Two in every 1,000 woman are likely to develop a blood clot during or after pregnancy. This doesn't stop woman from getting pregnant because it's too dangerous.

    Perspective:

    When taking a long flight, 3 percent of passengers have the risk of developing a clot. People continue to fly. Vaccines are much safer than flying.

    Perspective:

    Apparently hormonal contraception leads to the death of 300-400 women every year by increasing risk of blood clots, stroke, and heart attack. Vaccines are much safer than the birth-control pill.

    Perspective:

    It's one thing to point out that a vaccine causes some rare side effects that are serious, it's another thing to exaggerate these rare risks as causing thousands of deaths. I haven't seen one iota of proof that thousands are dying from side-effects. Supplying a list of rare side-effects is meaningless, it shows nothing except vaccines cause side-effects. All medications cause side-effects. I provided a list of rare side-effects for aspirin and stated they are rare. Most of the people who provide the lists of side-effects for the vaccine, never say they are rare, never focus on the more common side-effects, and grossly exaggerate number of deaths that vaccines are supposedly causing without one iota of proof.

    Perspective:

    How is it that nearly all the world's governments are conspiring with the vaccine companies and the mainstream media to hide data and to manipulate trial data in order to make false statements about the vaccines? It's impossible. So rather than believing the data of governments around the world, independent researchers, epidemiologists and the overwhelming number of vaccines given around the world that have caused no issues, people choose to give credence to a few idiots on the internet that exaggerate and lie about adverse events and while they are doing that they promote really stupid conspiracy ideas.

    Perspective:

    Get some!

    To be honest, reading some of the posts on this thread is like watching pigeons playing chess. They knock over all the pieces, leave their poop all over the board, and strut around like they have won anyways. I am referring to all the people providing misinformation from unreliable websites run by people with no relevant education. The information about vaccines and their safety has been published by countless of governments, government and independent research is ongoing, billions have safely received the vaccines with no ill effects.
     
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