‘The Fetterman Rule’: Senate Cuts Dress Code Enforcement

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  1. Bowerbird

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    THIS behaviour is more acceptable?
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    If I were in the Senate, I would come dressed as horrible as I could and would encourage everyone else to do the same.
     
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    Here is an idea for a senate dress code- no clothing allowed.

    Knock a bit of humility into the lawmakers.

    Either that or we dress them all up in wizard suits like the Supreme Court.

    That coat and tie has got to go! The contemporary business suit is loosely based on 1800's military uniforms. I got nothing against women in dresses, but they want equality so off with the clothes.
     
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    No not every person lmao. What a nonsense statement. Further then that, it's irrelevant. The state bullying people into testifying nonsense is very common throughout history. And you fell for it.
     
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    I don’t think Fetterman should be allowed to dress as he does.
    But don’t pretend it’s all one side. Jim Jordan never wears a suit jacket. That’s part of your “downward spiral”.
     
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    Didn't congress refuse to alter their dress code for some new guy that wanted to wear his grandfather's African shirt?

    How come the head injury gets preference? I mean it's the senate not congress. The senate should be most strict.
     
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    This was going to be my response to this thread. Dress didn’t slow the Q Karen’s down for an instant. It did keep Alito from embarrassing himself and the whole nation when he called The President of the United States a liar dressed in his robes at the State of the Union address. Putting a coat on Gym Jordan wouldn’t make him less nasty tempered in the least.

    I’m not sure how I feel about “dumbing down dress codes. It does give the allusion of dignity. But it can’t AND doesn’t hide the fact that self respect and respect for each other is almost nonexistent.

    The other factor is, the days of the business suit are numbered. In my life dress has gotten less formal as time passed. Movies have documented it. Look at how the actors were turned out when they were “ out on the town” in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s and watch it degenerate through the subsequent years. In my youth (50’s) we wouldn’t have dreamed of going to church or to a nice restaurant without a coat and tie. Now almost no one does.

    It used to be the rule of thumb, when going to a job interview to dress for the job you want. So, in today's work at home paradigm, would a programmer go to his interview in a collared shirt and pajama bottoms? IMHO, for better or worse, the days of the business suit are numbered.
     
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    The point was, how you dress doesn't actually have anything to do with your skill level, morality, or professionalism. I've been ripped off more by people in nice clothes than I ever have by people in shitty ones. It's an illusion based on tradition which itself was based on nothing tangible except social custom.

    Despite all that, I do see your point up to a certain degree. Wearing a suit doesn't make you more than what you already are, but the point you made about doing it to show respect to the institution has merit. That is why I still dress nice if I have to go to a funeral. There's a time to take a stand against nonsense traditions and a time to conform. And of course I dress nice when necessary for work because there's a paycheck involved there. But, the quality of my work and the level of service I provide our customers does not change based on what I'm wearing. I work from home doing sales and CAD design for a large company.
     
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    I suspect all three are propaganda mills.
     
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    Class changes too. And if a people lose it- they lose all the advantages of civility and order. They lose self-respect and pride, which lowers their perceptions of the value of themselves, and soon- living on the street in a tent seems totally reasonable.

    Do you want such people to be in control of your future?

    You are what you make yourself. But your leaders have the power to shift the quality of the nation you live in, by what they make themselves- and that in part is the role model for followers.
    A nation doesn't become exceptional because it lacks values- indeed, having them is how they are built. Losing those values is how they are destroyed.

    Do you want to be part of an exceptional nation- or is a shitshow good enough for you?
     
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    I can always count on the same people coming forward to oppose common sense.
     
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    As usual, you can't follow logic. Dress is not the only point of disrespect here, it's just the latest example. So it's not a question of which bad behavior we should support- it's the question of why we tolerate any of it in a place as important to the state of the nation as our congress.

    TRY HARDER. I'm quite sure you are capable of doing better, thinking better. I recently saw a wedding photo where a dog was pissing on the back of the bride's gown. I suspect You would see no problem with that either. Even if it was your gown, right?
     
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    Values are important. Dress code shows certain values and respect for an institution.

    But actions speak louder than words. Anyone criticizing Fetterman’s dress code while at the same time defending trump and his anti-American values and actions is a hypocrite.
     
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    You do not have to know how or why something works to realize it does work. But, it does help.

    When a policeman puts on his uniform, he knows he represents the law, he becomes the visible presence of it, and his conduct will reflect the value of the law and the respect for it.
    That causes him to be aware of his duty, and how well he does it. A suit is the uniform of Congress.

    Self-discipline is the ability to focus your yourself and maximize your quality. If you are having a beer and watching a football game in your underwear, that's your business. But if you are working for others, you had better be bringing your best to the table- Especially in a position like being a Senator. If you don't care enough to respect the job- you belong on the couch.

    Dress codes are only part of it. These same people already ignore most of the ethics rules they themselves have created- which are cosmetics they use to claim they have ethics.
    They see no reason to actually respect them. Soon, they will forget they even exist.
    They have decided your opinion of them is of no importance, and their comfort outweighs the need to even try to appear professional.
    No need to even fake it, because you either won't know the difference or won't give a damn.

    These people are WORKING FOR YOU.
    YOU ARE PAYING NOT ONLY THEIR SALARIES, BUT PROVIDING THE MONEY THEY WASTE AS IF YOU WOULD NEVER RUN OUT.
    WHAT THEY DO DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF YOUR LIFE AND FUTURE IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY.

    WHY should this have to be explained to grown people???
    Were the parents of recent generations so lacking in self-discipline and standards they couldn't demonstrate them?
     
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    HORSESHIT.
     
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    Whatever garb Fetterman shows up in, he will be showing less disrespect to the senate, than trump showed to the office of the presidency in his four years in office (and since his departure), through his actions.

    Trump may have worn a suit and tie every day, but his actions speak louder than shirts. And he was an anti-American president.
     
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    :thumbsup:

    AND! Would be again.

    AND - AND!!! There might not be enough patriots to stop him … next time.
     
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    True! What TRAITOR tRump did AND is doing to OUR beloved country AbsaByGodLutely …

    … is … HORSESHIT!

    But, to stay on topic; business suits are on their way out. Changing their dress code is the most forward thinking move OUR Senate has made in years.
     
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    This is "equity". Everyone only has to be equal to the standards of the lowest among us.
     
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    Have you always been in the fertilizer business? Selling bullshit, telling people it's good for them?

    Trump was the most-Pro-American president in years- Many years. You're being taken in like a rube at the country fair if you believe otherwise.
     
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    Which effectively lowers the bar anytime someone comes in that's worse!
     
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    Yeah :roll: "The most-Pro-American president in years - Many years"; IS the ONLY president EVER to assemble a mob and rile them up so they would attack OUR Capitol!

    IF you believe That TRAITOR tRump is "The most-Pro-American president in years - Many years" :shock: AND are accusing anyone of being a "rube"? :wtf:

    Well; the only thing I could say would get me kicked off this board. :roll:
     
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    Honorable conduct, like Boebert, Greene and Trump. They can wear $1k suits, that doesn't change their behavior. Again I prefer the Senate have a dress code, but it is naive to assume that automatically changes behavior.
     
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    How is it that I drop into a thread about the senate, dress codes and Fetterman yet I see Trump’s name mentioned several times? Is the derangement that severe?
     

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