‘The Fetterman Rule’: Senate Cuts Dress Code Enforcement

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Nope! Just doing some equivalency
     
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    This is NOT a pick the winner of the worst conduct award. Bad conduct on any level in Congress makes the citizens- the people who pay the bills and suffer the results of incompetence lose over all these.

    The reason the world has people who are consistent winners, people who are consistent losers- is that some think a lot better than others.

    Some people make things happen.
    Some are people to whom things happen.
    Some are people who don't know things are happening.

    Things ARE happening, there ARE reasons, and most of the negative things happen because of apathy, ignorance and not knowing or paying attention to things until it's too late.
     
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    That's certainly the image those behind the vendetta want you to see, and obviously, you have swallowed it all. I suspect they laugh at the gullibility level of people who feed on it like pigs at the trough.
    I would except it's not funny if you actually give a damn about the future of the world.
     
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    Of all the bars that have been lowered in Washington in the last 6 years, Fetterman's lack of a tie, is not the one that that gives me night sweats.
     
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    In this situation, it wouldn't be the pajamas I had a problem with, nor would the pajamas be the cause of them sitting around drinking beer. Those are personal choices, and pajamas don't make choices, humans do.

    We are here because folks figured out it's easier to cash in than it is to work building something. Cashing in was always what was at the heart of the American Dream. Money and possessions. When we were a superpower, and most of the world hadn't caught up yet, that was easy to accomplish. Nowadays, not so much. You see, what folks think is going to happen because of MAGA is that we'll go back to those times, but that's never going to happen. The United States changed, yes, but so did the rest of the world, and where we are going can't be determined by trying to get back to somewhere we've already been that no longer exists. That is why MAGA will ultimately fail, because the movement has only grievances but no ideas. The Democrats are no better.

    It is possible that politicians know there's no putting the genie back in the bottle so they run on this populist fluff like the MAGA morons or perpetual victimhood like the progressive window lickers do.

    I don't disagree with you here, but once again, it has nothing to do with the clothes you wear. These are problems independent of fashion.

    And you've made this determination about my upbringing because I never bought into the illusion that dressing nice means you're a better person than someone who doesn't? Perhaps it is you who was raised without the kind of intellectual structure that builds critically thinking people. A structure that would have taught you that the person is the one doing or not doing the things and the clothes they are wearing don't do anything. Apparently instead you were taught that shallow appearance related nonsense has far more bearing on thought and action than it actually does.

    And I have never once in my life thought my country owed me anything.

    *snaps fingers*

    Buddy, we're here in the real world. We lost you there for a second as you dipped into a monologue where you thought you had the experience and intellect to make predictions about my parents and upbringing of which you know nothing about. This is what occurs when you've been high on your own bullshit for too long. It's time to come back down.
     
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    The best mind I ever knew was working with me on ways to solve national issues. One day, he said- "I'm quitting the team (think tank). It's a waste of time to try to show people how to make life work; they are all morons- and content being morons, they're never going to learn." He gave up on people that day many years ago, and I hated to see it. Unfortunately- there are always many trying to prove his point.

    Obviously, you don't know what you don't know, but some people don't even suspect it exists. When a person measures everything by their own limitations, there is no need to understand anything else. It's a kind of comfortable misery. And of course, they are telling you everything about themselves in the process, without having a clue they are so transparent. Such a person is not in the real world at all, but in a bubble, an opaque microcosm. Sure there is nothing more- and unaware that what they don't know is a million times greater than what they do. To such a person, that is the "real world". Anyone outside it is deluded...... and again, they haven't a clue- and it's perhaps impossible to give them one. The bubble shields them from conflicting thoughts.

    In 1983, my business card opened to this:

    "The Ultimate Resouce... is People.
    People are the building blocks-
    Of marriage, of business, of nations..
    Relationships are the mortar that bonds them together.
    Success depends on the strength and quality of both. "


    I've probably been working on this longer than you've been alive- and Fortune 500 companies like Boeing were paying me $100 an hour to teach it to their managers back then.

    Here's your clue- Try opening a window in that bubble. Let some fresh thoughts in.
     
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    And you watch him 24/7?

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    Can you show me a hoodie and gym shorts?

    But I have no problem applying the standard to everyone including him.
     
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    No, I can't stand to listen to the SOB. Actually, I find him very educational; every time he's starts to speak I leave the room and read a book.

    I've been catching up on the news this morning and, because of this thread I've been looking at how men are "turning out". Frankly I think the standard well tailored business suit still is the best look for a professional man. I don't agree with changing the dress code for the whole Senate. If Fetterman has health issues that prevent wearing a suit then make an exception for him and let it go. On the other hand for days, spent in committee meetings and on the floor, waving the coat and tie rule makes sense. They're uncomfortable and, IMHO, not conducive to getting work done.

    IF, it were me and I thought I was going to be on camera or in the public eye, you can bet I would turn out in a well tailored suit and tie. But, for closed sessions or committee meetings I see no purpose in making our Representatives and Senators wear a coat and tie. I still think they should be required to wear nice slacks dress shoes and a dress shirt; but that's me. I have said that I think the days of the business suit are numbered. I didn't say I liked it.
     
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    I would have liked Senate drop “senate filibuster” rule then senate dress code.
     
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    One might be supportive of “casual Friday” or doing away with stupid ties. The trouble with Fetterman is that he dresses like a trailer park slob. It is completely disrespectful.
     
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    And yet when he "speaks" he exudes love and respect for OUR Nation that few of his critics can match. Which is why he got elected in the first place.
     
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    False, they absolutely have chosen hate over country. Dems were impossible to cooperate with. They chose to attack relentless over nonsense, failed to cooperate to better all Americans lives. The danger to America is the hate and fascim being demonstrated by the left.
     
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    The divisiveness is due to dems reaction to losing in 2016. This is the world we live in created by dems. Until dems drop the hate there is no moving forward unfortunately.
     
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    There is no equivalency. Just left wing delusions.
     
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    No he doesn't lol. He exudes ignorance.
     
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    The only group that is "deluded", that exudes "ignorance" are the die-hard MAGrates that continue to support TRAITOR tRump in spite of all of his treasonous escapades.
     
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    Fetterman's having a great day.


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    I'd suggest you take your own advice Sir. Literally everything you just posted as a snide little dig at me can be applied to you and the bubble YOU live in. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you're in your 60s or 70s. I suspect you've spent a long time speaking from what you consider to be a position of knowledge and authority and I'm sure there are things based on your experiences that you can talk about from those positions truthfully. But I also think you've let it go to your head and now you think everything you say is coming from a position of knowledge and authority. Based on your posts, I can assure you that is not the case. You've got your own bubble too, it's just been so long you don't even know you're in it.

    But, I do like like what your business card said, and agree with most of it. People(not clothing) are the building blocks of everything. Relationships(not clothing) are the the mortar that bonds them together. I have experienced this in my own workplace, coming in as the 2nd member of a sales team with a guy who's been there for 15 years to my current 2 years. I'm already more liked and respected than the other guy, not because I've been more successful at my job(I haven't, his 15 years have given him many contacts at distributors and end users who contact him directly instead of going through normal channels whereas I came into this with no prior sales experience at all though my job also has a design component which I do have prior experience in) but because of the relationships I've developed with my coworkers.

    The only part I would partially disagree with is the conclusion. Success depends on more variables than that, and may happen even if the relationships between people are toxic. It all depends on what you're doing, where you're doing it, when you're doing it, and how you're doing it. I've seen businesses fail in one area that thrived in another. I've seen morons be successful and smart people go bankrupt. Life cannot be condensed down into easily digestible slogans that will always apply.
     
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    What people believe they know and what they understand are rarely the same. Unfortunately, most people are unable to learn from those who have already been where they are going, and have to re-invent the wheel. Nobody's always right- but the people who are continuously successful are probably a lot more right than those who tell them they don't understand- and that is the scoreboard; long-term success.

    Unlike most, as I've met highly successful people (and I've met a lot of them through my businesses) I've respectfully asked them to share the secrets of their success. IF you don't insult them in the first place- IF they believe you are sincere and have the ability to learn, almost all will share those secrets with you. Incredibly valuable - such as one told to me by Frank Barton, founder of the Rent-A Center chain, the was doubling in size every year. I asked him how they had achieved that, and he told me- "It's having great regional managers. They get the credit; all we do here at the top is make decisions..."
    Then he paused, looked me in the eye, and said- "Of course, they have to be the right decisions". You may not understand that. He was telling me that the person at the top was the Navigator of the ship- and that controlled the potential for everything else. You may not think there is any connection between the clothes and the focus it takes to make the quality of decisions that position requires... But you would be wrong. How you dress is not the only factor, but it's a part of the formula. Professionalism requires a high level of self-discipline- and an environment that keeps it in focus. People who would excel when they face great responsibility- need all the edge they can get.

    I can count a dozen super-successes among those people who have helped me, including one of America's 10 wealthiest, and several CEO's of nationwide and worldwide companies you know well. Yes, I am old- older than you guess. Probably paying more in taxes than you earn, too. It's not a question of being better, or being more intelligent- but of your ability to learn, to grow, to actually use what you know. Everyday you stand in the way of your own growth and success is a day you can never recover, and lowers the potential of your life. We don't do that intentionally- but changing it requires your intention, and a lot of it.

    I was 38 before I figured it out, and at that point I had been asking the best teacher in the world the same question for 3 years. Answer was always there; my ability to understand it was not. It's not what you don't know that makes it hard- it's things you think you do know that are wrong and you won't let go of. And you don't need a thousand rules to understand- only a few. If they are the right ones, they will answer all the rest of the questions of life for you- correctly. The ability to navigate life- all of it - depends on making the right decisions. Today is not about today, because what we do now shapes tomorrow. Our mindset, our focus and awareness of that matters a great deal.

    Most people want the answers to fit neatly into what they already believe- and that's like locking out any idea that doesn't fit your mold. Self-inflicted limitations.
     
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    Nightmares of Melania's "The Handmaid's Tale" Christmas trees too. lol


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    ‘The Fetterman Rule’: Senate Cuts Dress Code Enforcement,

    At least Fetterman acts like stroke patient. I'll give him credit for that.
     
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    Fetterman wore shorts and a hoody to meet Zelensky today who probably wore a green T shirt.

    Each of them need their own version of Jill Biden.
     
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    How is a dress code and Fetterman equivalent to Trump in any shape or form?
     
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    LOL!


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    Dick Durbin and other Democrats are now publicly speaking out against Schumer's unilateral action on this saying it harms decorum and respect for the institution.
     

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