“Conservatives take aim at tenure for University professors”

I agree. Here are a few examples of the censoring of education taking place in US classrooms:
(1) Not teaching about the founding fathers.
(2) Not allowing God into the classroom.
(3) Using and demanding preferred pronouns for students.
(4) Lying about the Ukraine war (that the US is heavily involved in).

 

That's a union for ya. I mean, the union is so worried that a teacher will get screwed out of a job that teachers are, for example, screwing on the job and still not being screwed out of a job because of the teachers' union.

 

they can still worry that a teacher is being "screwed" out of a job, but just like with cops, they go overboard protecting bad ones

 

Oh, totally.

 

How prevalent are bad cops in the US?

 

No it isn't.

 

Which university offers degrees in basic reading and math?

 

Why don't you elaborate?

 

Where did you get the idea that you get a BD and the next day you are making good money? Get degree in mechanical engineering. Go to work for a big company and the first couple of years your on tools and in training. After that an assistant for many years. You don't get your own department for years. After that they have to run the department, make payroll, get funding. And it's your performance that keeps you in your job. Should be no different that teachers.

 

small percent, but sadly often not punished when caught

 

How small a percent?

 

I couldn't find the poll/study I had in mind by either a university or Gallop, but here are a couple of many references.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/100-of-professors-are-leftists-in-40-of-u-s-colleges/

https://noqreport.com/2021/05/03/ou...-many-identify-as-even-a-little-conservative/

 

Name one school that doesn't teach about the founding fathers. Just one.

Why should my tax dollars subsidize your religion?

Oh no! Treating students with basic respect! I've got the vapas!

Yes, I'm glad we are helping them defend against an invading military force that is trying to subjugate them. Glad we cleared all of that up.

 

just like bad teacher, small percent - but we need to remove them when caught

 

Do we need to destroy tens of billions of dollars in real estate in the US to catch a very few number of bad cops?

 

criminals are criminals, even if they wear a badge

 

Tenured professors are the ones who are performing research, obtain federal and private grants on whatever their specialty, write academic articles, etc, and teach a few classes with some wanting to teach lower-level classes. By getting rid of the tenure, universities like the University of Texas, Rice, and other Tier 1 research educational institutions would be at a distinct disadvantage compared to other universities in the US and around the world.

And none of this has anything to do with Lt. Gov Dan Patrick belief of what CRT is or is being taught period.

 

A welder is not the same job as a professor, assistant professor, or even a lecturer. And with welding and other trade arts, you do have guilds, aka unions, that protect you and your pay, even in Texas BTW.

As far as academics, a tenured professor is one who has paid his dues already. It is not like they are given tenureship for their looks or political idealogy. The whole point of tenureship is to bring prestiege to the University because that professor is the one who is bringing in the research grants, writing books and articles in which the University is known for, and expanding the knowledge of whatever specific area within a specific academic subject they are researching with. And with those universities that offer Tenure to professors, it is based on the the 1940 Statement of Principles on Academic Freedom and Tenure.

 

A tenured professor means continuous appointment. At the University of Texas, for instance, it has to be approved by the board. It saves time and cost to keep rehiring the professor if that professor is in demand and may go elsewhere for more money and pay. They are paid quite handsomely. And there certain benefits to having tenured professors, names University prestige. I know that is not a thing, prestige in academia, in the state of Mississippi where it is dead last in education in almost all categories, but it has nothing to do with what Dan Patrick thinks it is about and will hurt Texas universities, especially Tier 1 research education institutions here. And that is not a good thing. And if that does not happen, the costs of tuition at public universities will have to go up.

 

DUH. But then my employment was continuous until my performance no longer satisfied my emoloyer. Teachers should be the same no job is a guaranty.

At my jobs they had to be approved by higher ups.

Same in the private sector replacing people cost money so what?

So was I.

There was prestige in my field for hiring me so what?

If you have such prestige then you isn't need tenure. If you have such prestige and you aren't producing results anymore you don't deserve the job.

Pure speculation. If their employment is based on outstanding results no need to offer tenure and people will be begging to go to school there.

 

So basically, you are arguing that you were tenured and you don't want that for professors. Why am I not surprised here?

 

Are you belittling tradesmen?

 

No, he is not. However, you are belittling professors, basically claiming that they provide no value.

My question to you: Do you have kids? If yes, did you send them to college, or will you? My guess: You are not telling your kids that their professors have no value and that they should treat them with disrespect. Conservatives tend to talk a good game on online forums about how terrible academia is, but when it comes to their own kids, they'd send them to Yale in a heartbeat, should they be accepted.

 

I think the online courses that can be brought or purchased are more valuable than the actual college degrees at this point. If you want knowledge, it's available via the free world wide web. Professors aren't the only one with this problem. All forms of our 'institutions' are saturated with has-beens and once-was's.

America simply aged too quickly and is too slow to remove old, washed up people who were once excellent.

 

I know a professor of logic that would point our your fallacy. This is not about me. Would you say that all professors are of the same effectiveness?