“House passes resolution to overturn new federal gun regulation”

Literally true. A bump stock does not create a machine gun because the trigger is moved manually once per shot. Rate of fire is not the test, more than one bullet per manual trigger pull is.
Same with SBRs: Those are weapons with a STOCK that is DESIGNED TO BE FIRED FROM THE SHOULDER.
The braces, per the patents, are DESIGNED TO BE FIRED FROM A PISTOL STANCE WITH THE WEAPON EXTENDED AND ATTACHED TO THE FOREARM BY THE BRACE.
The BATFE ratified this configuration with letters, in writing, relied upon for the purchase of some 40 million examples.


A full size AR (min 16 inch barrel) actually has superior ballistics to a shorter barreled AR if its shooting 5.56/ .223.

As in: the full size barrel would cause far more damage per shot.

This is basic math. No maybe about it.

 

Gun manufacturers’s propaganda to sell guns, no one is calling for banning all guns, it works, no coincidence that when Obama was elected gun sales rose considerably

 

I very much doubt all those hippies would've voted to ban smoking reefer dude.
I very much doubt that the average man would've voted in the 30's to ban anything.
I noticed you aren't quite sure when weed actually became illegal. So I covered both possibilities.

 

So all regulations have to be legislated by Congress? You are aware that it is the Executive Branch that executes the law, not Congress

 

Do I need to go back to the paper and ink analogy?

 

And you're aware that is the legislature that writes the statutory definitions, not the executive branch?

 

If you like... it's a somewhat free country....

 

Yea, same to you. Keep your hands off my guns and out of my pocket.

 

Yeah, people are saying the quiet part out loud and calling for banning all guns.

During Obama's interview a couple weeks ago he talked about the Democrats' failure to "eliminate guns".

Feinstein said in 1994 that if she had the votes, she would ban them all, saying, "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in."

Any politician that says he wants "common sense gun control", then says he doesn't want to ban all guns is a lying sack of ****.

 

Yeah, that's exactly right...lol

You are aware that it is Congress that makes the law, not the Executive Branch?

 

Not all. Lot of regulation is delegated to agencies like FDA, or National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, but if a new regulation like limits on speech conflicts existing laws, then Congress needs to be involved.

 

OK, appreciate the civil debate, but would ask, how is not allowing a brace in any way chipping away at the 2nd amendment

I would also push back that the 2nd amendment is not an “guns are untouchable”.

 

Because if the ATF get away with this and they get away with making up their own definition of what an automatic weapon is, then they can outlaw anything they want.

What does "shall not be infringed" mean?

 

The burden is on the lawmakers to demonstrate how it makes us safer. I can see how a brace can assist the elderly or frail operate the firearm. The truth is that guns are untouchable and it has nothing to do with the second amendment. Both sides agree that dangerous people should not have firearms. 100% of gun laws only take them from those who are not dangerous. Every criminal who wants a gun has one already.

 

Sort of related to guns..... here is a Texas reponse to Uvalde and all the other shootings in their schools.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-mandates-panic-buttons-classrooms-203124082.html

I have my doubts this will make any difference if their officers are still afraid to confront a single shooter, but TBH, it's not remotely the dumbest thing Republicans have come up with in the past 20 years... by a factor of 400. Sure beats the **** out of arming teachers....

Whaddya think?

 

Why do you have to throw in subjective words like obsession?

I think that people that fear guns are irrational.

In mind, its like walking through somebody's kitchen and being like "omg. They have knives!"

And I'll note, you weren't responding to my point about your partisan post.

 

I agree in concept that the lawmakers need to show how it makes us safer, but only as it relates to the politics of the bill, not the legality of the law itself, right ?

For the right, guns are the third rail and are untouchable.

 

Not so, a lot do. The ATF change their own rule because so many firearms owners were using it.

 

The ATF made the rule in the first place. Then changed their mind after millions of gun owners built or bought guns using it.

 

They (DoJ, - which ATF is part of) changed it because one mass shooter used one. There was no other reason. Likewise, Trump's DoJ (AG Matthew Whitaker ) did the same exact thing with bump-stocks. I believe it will heard in the SC, so then you will have your answer/ What "own rule" are you talking about?

 

It changes nothing. the difference between a 911 call and a “panic button” (which notifies 911), is literally zero

This is just more of the “look at us were doing something” from the right, when they are literally doing nothing with this

 

How?

 

They “assumed” the power to create the “pistol brace” rule in the first place then went back on it, retroactively, after millions of gun owners adopted their rule to their weapons.

 

That’s NOT why the ATF changed the rule.

 

There are many countries that allow private ownership of firearms and have many firearms in private ownership.