13% Of The Population Causing Over Half The Violent Crime

How can you defend blacks after knowing that?

Don't you think this is an problem worthy of mainstream discussion?


In 2005, offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites

Homicide Type by Race, 1976-2005
Victims ----------------------- Offenders
White -- Black -- Other - White -- Black -- Other
All homicides - 50.9% - 46.9% - 2.1% -- 45.8% - 52.2% - 2.0%​

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm

In those statistics, where are the figures for the Hispanic population? Oh that's right, Hispanics are included in with Whites to even up the numbers a bit.

 

I'll defend all the black people who aren't criminals. Will you?

Yes. Do you think that discussion needs to go way beyond simply labelling black people as criminals to looking in to all the causal factors for violent crime, including distinctions that aren't based on skin colour?

 

Melanin does not cause crime. Crime is directly related to socio economic circumstances regardless of race. This is not in dispute. *MOD EDIT*

 

That's quite a task to find a black that isn't a criminal, since over half of the violent crimes are committed by the 13% of blacks in America. But you're avoiding the point. Zook wasn't talking about the handful of blacks you might find that have a bit of morality runing through their veins.

Why would you or any other WHITE man want to waste time looking at whatever factors there are that have created the black criminal? Blacks themselves know they have a huge problem with this, yet they do absolutely nothing in their communities to address and or fix the problems, other than to continue to blame the WHITE man for all their failures. Get with the program, pal.

 

What anti-racist *******s don't understand is there's no excuse for violent crime or behavior. By describing the black crime epidemic as simply down to socio economic circumstances you are not only excusing and encouraging this serious problem to continue, you're sounding as if you're pro-crime. Kids make excuses for when they slip up. We are all adults here.

It's a weak, weak argument that needs to cease. Violent crime is disgusting and we must work to finding a drastic solution to it.

We need to make our society as safe as humanly possible for our children, our women, our elderly and our disabled. All of which are common prey for violent black criminals. Repatriation of black "people" back to Africa where they belong should be a major priority. They have proven overwhelmingly that they are not fit to remain in civilized society.

 

Man WTF do you think you are calling for the ethnic cleansing of fellow Americans from their own home soil? Even if I was a racist I wouldn't be calling for fellow Americans who have lived on this soil as long as I have(and I have a blood line that would make Daughters of the American Revolution jealous) and you think you can just talk crap about ethnically cleansing Americans from their own soil?? What kind of tyranny is that? That's AMERICAN to you?

*MOD EDIT* Fine, you think black people are more likely to commit violent crime. I don't care. They are Americans with rights, not some mexican illegal who crossed the border yesterday. No REAL American would call for fellow Americans to be forcibly deported!

I have a feeling that most black people have blood lines stretching back hundreds of years before there even was an America while chances are your ancestors probably arrived here sometime in the mid to late 19th century, that's if your not descended from some wop or pole that managed to get on a boat here in the 1920's. Mine arrived in 1749, so me and most black people have far more claim to the rights of this land than you probably do. So why don't we deport your ass instead?

You should be THANKING them. Why? Because it was the sweat and blood of their forced labor that built the very foundations of this country. The nerve of you.

 

Don't be silly. There are around 40 million black people in the US. Even if every single violent crime was committed by a different black person, it wouldn't add up to any kind of majority. The vast majority of people in general are not violent criminals, regardless of skin colour.

Zook was talking about "blacks" - no conditions or clarification. Regardless of how many are not criminals, how worthy some black individuals might be, Zook (and you) automatically dismissed them all.

What program? If as you're suggesting black people aren't doing anything and white people shouldn't bother doing anything, nothing is going to change. Why would you not want to do anything to actually address a major crime problem in your country?

 

It is nice to see that bigotry is still alive and well. The only question is what caused it? Was it inbreeding, lack of basic education, or mental deficiency or perhaps all of the above?

 

prometeus wrote: It is nice to see that bigotry is still alive and well. The only question is what caused it? Was it inbreeding, lack of basic education, or mental deficiency or perhaps all of the above?

Bigotry has nothing to do with it...

... just taking a look at the prison population and the black crime rate speaks for itself.

 

Oh come on walt. Everyone knows that the African American community has it's problems, but to call for the ethnic cleansing of people who have been here longer than most White Americans is absolutely disgusting. There is zero defense for that, high crime or not, we Americans have principles and one of those principles is that ALL Americans have a right to live on this soil. Black, white, Asian doesn't matter. The blacks and many Asians provided the backbreaking labor necessary to forge a nation out of dangerous wilderness, they earned their right to be here through blood, sweat and tears of oppression and misery.

 

Ooh, Oooh, lookie here, I have a link that states the fact that men committ 90% of violent crimes. Now let's scurry and find all the rabid feminists and together we could deport the men to some lone island somewhere and us women won't have to worry about getting raped and or beaten anymore.

http://goodmenproject.com/conflict/violence-is-a-mens-issue/

 

First of all, my WHITE ancestry is directly linked to John and Samuel Adams, which far predates the ancestry of most modern day blacks.

The ethnic cleasning that is being bandied about here would in fact be the cure all to all of the black problems. Blacks here in the good ole U.S. of A cannot or will not properly assimilate to our culture or to our society. The fact that black crime is proportionaly higher than that of other races, and that their family structure is in total shambles, just goes to show that they (the blacks) in 2 1/2 centuries haven't progressed one iota, and in fact seem to be regressing tells me that blacks would either be better off as slaves once again, or be better off boarding some tall ships back to their mother country in Africa.

Not only can't the black man live among their own here in America, but their mere presence here causes all kinds of derision between them and any other race or etnic group currently residing here.

 

Bees and hornets have been in America for centuries too, but exterminators still get rid of them. Your mistake is thinking black "people" are human like the rest of the population. They're not, they are Homo Erectus. It's like excusing a bunch of wild gorillas running amok.

You sound deeply entrenched in White Guilt. It's quite embarrassing reading your posts actually.

 

Weak argument.

Men serve a purpose. Men are needed for reproduction, for building and many other things. Men have proven to contribute greatly to society.

Where as black "people" offer nothing to society other than negativity and violence.

If blacks went back to Africa then America would improve. If men went elsewhere America would come to a standstill.

It amazes me how stupid anti-racist arguments can be sometimes.

 

I have always wondered what causes such overt racism and hatred.

As a previous poster pointed out, one of the possibilities could be inbreeding, cousins having children with cousins, or perhaps even closer relations such as brother and sister.

My personal opinion is jealousy. Folks who are so unsuccessful in life, so full of self loathing, that the demonize the perceived poorer classes in this country because they exists, for intents and purposes, in an even lower class lifestyle.

Perhaps this jealousy was spawned out of a black person getting a union job that they so highly coveted to achieve something approaching middle class.

Just my theories of course. Carry on with the whole "shipping blacks to Africa" thing.

 

Wrong on all 3.

There are zero serious studies linking skin colour to crime. Melanin does not induce criminal activity. Theres nothing else to be said. Your argument ends there.

 

Weak argument? Let's try dumb argument. They both are dumb, but your lust driven agenda will only let you see that one argument is strong. Be careful, ever heard of self fullfilled prophecy? Constantly thinking about how all blacks are violent and criminals, you'll eventually become a target. Maybe you could get out of a beating by mentioning your desire to ship 'their people back to Africa'. Must be a terrible life constantly wishing you lived in a blackless society. Do you clutch your purse too while on an elevator?

Have fun with your endeavors.

 

The only people I see clutching their purses would be the sissified *******s that are so engrossed in political correctness and catering to the gay/transgenders that they have this need to feel wanted and needed in a sick multicultural society.

I, on the other hand do clutch on to my 'WALLET' when surrounded by blacks. How soon libs like yourself forget about the high crime statistics that Zook so graciously pointed out. Being the practical Conservative that I am, I suggest you heed to the saying...an ounce of protection is worth at least a pound in saftey. Good luck walking through life wearing blinders to reality, and blind to the criminal content of our society.

 

You know what TFM, you are right. In fact, you are right about another thing and it wasn't until I had a conversation with my sister today that I realized it. I've been too hard on poor people. "Welfare queens" and such are a symptom of the larger problems in America and not the cause of our problems, and she in along drawn out rant helped me to come realize that.

So I'm going to take this chance to apologize to you specifically because you pointed out my stupid biases in other threads and my own ignorance was to fault. This thread just helped crystallize it.

Back on topic. I meet so many successful and rich black people. I mean 250k a year earners with millions. They put the point on the end of the exclamation mark that racism is ignorant hatred with no scientific evidence whatsoever.

Racism is learned in various ways. I grew up in a black neighborhood and very easily could've turned into a violent racist like many of my white friends who grew up in the same circumstances and I did hold a grudge for a long time. But as I grew older I realized that they are not solely to blame for their problems. I don't blame history. I blame a consumerist culture that puts "get rich or die trying" above all other ethical considerations.

I may be a cold hearted SOB towards people sometimes, but one thing I do is love America and I won't have some ignorant boob talk about deportation of Americans from this soil when they have earned the right to be here through historical hardship and oppression.

 

That one sentence there tells us everything we need to know about the ******* mentality.

Do you suppose those rich people who got into the trenches to work hard at whatever endeavor they chose in order to succeed were thinking that if they didn't succeed that they would die? Libs like yourself have this inordinate fixation on being pessimistic and failures at everything you do. Do you suppose those rich black people you spoke of were thinking I need to get rich and I need too think about ethical considerations before moving forward, or I'll surely die? Those rich blacks you spoke of are undoubtedly Republicans/Conservatives, for to be anything else is to be entrenched in pessimism and failure at every level.

Back to your sentence again: If it is as you suggest (a tough consumerist culture)for blacks in this country, then wouldn't it make total Zook sense to have them deported back to their mother country where they wouldn't have sucha hard time succeeding in life?

 

Right, because a self declared racist is just another open minded intellectual.

 

As long as the proposed island has gay marriage....

 

Struck a nerve, did I?

 

No one in the last thread you made was listening to your idiotic statements so why in the (*)(*)(*)(*) should anyone be listening to you now?

 

I'm very open minded. I gave blacks a chance and now I've opened my mind to racism. I wasn't always racist. I've had more black friends in my past than all other races (including my own) combined.

Racism is the intellectual choice if you experience what blacks have to offer society. Here, let this intellectual racist explain it to you...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiqaNDRSgIA&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL028148DB9BBC84DD"]Jared Taylor Explains White Man's Disease - YouTube[/ame]

Don't be a hypocrite... be OPEN-MINDED and give the video a chance.