150th Anniversary of the War of Northern Aggression

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  1. Californian

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    Traitors? No.

    Tried to destroy the union? No.

    Started the war? No.

    Better off had the South been let go? Yes.

    You're 1 for 4. Not bad...for baseball.
     
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    Couple problems with your statement.

    1. The South did not keep an entire race of humans in bondage. That is an incredibly dishonest and historically inaccurate statement. There were free blacks in the South (some of them slave-owners themselves). Thousands fought honorably as free men for their country in the Confederate Army and Navy.

    http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/blackcs.htm

    2. You are taking the Declaration of Independence line "all men are created equal" out of context. In 1776, blacks were not considered men but more akin to livestock and thus not equal. FYI, that was one of the major reasons for the War of Independence as Britain freed the slaves which galvanized support for the revolutionaries across the colonies.
     
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    Nobody owned slaves, it was just a front for the North to attack the South.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Because Democrats were the party that supported and fought for slavery.

    They were Populist and reflected nothing of the Republicans who OVERWHELMINGLY support civil rights and desegregation.

    The South was changing before that as more people moved there and the younger generation was rejecting discrimination. After the Democrats lost the civil rights battles it was simply no longer an issue. The shift from Democrat to Republican had nothing to do with discrimination or the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act. Why would they run to the party that defeated on those issues?

    The Democrats seeing that they lost the battle then turned to the tactic of Affirmative Action and entitlements. They have kept the black vote based on those two issues.
     
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    It worked as a political move to shore up support in the North.

    Slavery existed in the United States AFTER the end of the Civil War in states that never left the Union. It as not exclusive to the Southern States. Slavery existed FAR longer under the Stars and Stripes than it did under the Stars and Bars.
     

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