2011 College Football Thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Rebellion, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    but that's you and your opinion is OK for you

    Sure in other sports, for example basketball only Kentucky is relevant (forget the brief stint of FL)

    But, with respect to football, the SEC has worked hard to become what it is.
     
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    Buckeye fans are known for being very reserved...

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    Herkdriver New Member

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    Wow...just wow....

    There were no coeds like this at my college...perhaps that's a good thing; not much else to do but study.
     
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    Explain it to me then.

    Do you root on the AFC west because your team might happen to be in the AFC west? I know I don't - because it doesn't make sense - its just a division of geographically convient teams to play.

    For example, I'm a fan of college wrestling, and I root on my Buckeyes religiously. They happen to be in the Big Ten, and the Big Ten happens to dominate college wrestling right now. Currently they have 6 of the top 10 teams in the country. But why should I give a rats ass if Iowa wins another National Title? Because they happen to be in the same conference? That makes no sense. They are no different to me than any other school from any conference in America.
     
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    kronikcope Active Member

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    "the big nut", as he's known as in Columbus, is probably the biggest Buckeye fan that I know of. I think the guy has dedicated his life to Buckeye athletics.
     
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    Let's see, Boise St. is rated #7 in the BCS, with a solid whipping of SEC Championship Game participant Georgia, in Atlanta no less. Um, I'd say that's a solid fail on your part.

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    That's what I don't get about secs argument. While I have no doubt Alabama or LSU would beat Boise St, Boise beat the best team this year in the SEC east on their field. Does that mean traditional football powers like Florida, Georgia, S Carolina, and Tennessee are "high school" teams too?
     
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    FL is a joke this year

    GA was lost when BSU rolled into town but you give them props for beating the dawgs

    I honestly thought the dawgs would get 5 wins this year

    The SEC east is weak this year but will rebound. They have to.

    So, back to BSU, I wish them well as they seek a championship match.

    I don't know the student population size at BSU but if they were in FL they'd probably be playing in 6A or 5A for their championship

    (those are HS divisions in case you aren't aware)
     
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    It's not only other SEC teams he's calling "high school teams", but every other team in the country. I guess everybody is entitled to their own brand of nonsense, but it doesn't make it true.
     
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    Ummm...Boise St has like 20K students. More than Vandy and U of Mississippi
    and as many as Auburn, Mississippi St and Arkansas.
     
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    that's awesome

    I have been consistent and not just with BSU

    It's great what BSU has done with their cupcake schedule. But, to try and get the students, alumni and players to think they can lace their boots with LSU or Bama is a dis-service to them.

    it's akin to when Ohio State was thrown to the wolves 2 years in a row. The sad thing was the students actually believed they stood a chance. I'd rather see those teams play in a good bowl game rather than set them up for failure and disappointment. Those kids work hard all year and deserve a fair chance in the post season.

    that is what would happen with BSU.

    You may call that arrogance but from what conference were the last 5 champions? In fact, since 1998 the SEC is 7-0. They win every time they go.

    This January it will be 6 in a row and 8-0 since 1998

    Tossing a BSU or Stanford against the SEC team would be unfair to both teams. Sure it gives an easy victory to the SEC but who wants that?

    I want to see a tight game this year. The only way we'll see that is if the 2 best teams in all the land are allowed to play; Bama vs LSU
     
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    I don't remember anyone saying Boise would beat Alabama or LSU, but they are sure as hell better than the vast majority of the SEC. And again, I find the conference nut hugging strange and absurd.

    BTW, OSU was a betting favorite in one of thoses title games (why didn't you bet the house?) and won a title a few years before that. They completly (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up the second half of last years bowl game and still beat Arkansas. It has nothing to do with the conference a team plays in, it's the team itself.
     
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    well

    actually it's both

    let's examine BSU. If they played in the SEC they would not be running up the scores they do in the lower division. BSU's best chance of becoming a good team is to play 3-4 mid or high tier SEC teams and even OU or USC

    By playing in the SEC it forces a team to become better. Not that they are wonderful but look at how the Dawgs improved over the year. Also, if LSU/Oregon were held again today it would not be as close. LSU has had to endure the SEC and the kids got better and tougher for it.
     
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    Unless things have changed since I went to school, high schools draw their 16 +/- year old athletes from their student population, while colleges draw their 20 +/- year old athletes from the best around the country that they can get their hands on(recruiting). Other than money available to athletic departments from the general student population(I don't know how much, if any), the college population of a given school should have very little to do with on the field performance. Please explain how ANY (major) college football team is like a high school team.
     
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    Since, it's been determined that the SEC is in a down year(except for LSU, 'Bama, Ark. & maybe Ga.), how has beating up on Vandy, Ole Miss & Kentucky made anybody in the conference better? Just askin'.
    For the record, at this time(it could change though), Alabama & LSU should meet in the BCS championship, IMO.
     
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    on this agree

    It stinks that USC is not allowed because USC/BSU or USC/ OU would be good games

    I understand the tradition of the Rose Bowl but IMHO, a big 10 team should not go this year.

    it's a big money game with great viewrship and exposure. There are a lot more teams where the kids deserve to be there this year than a big 10 team.

    Oregon/OSU would be an awesome offensive match. We'd probably see over 100 points because neither has a defense. Or, BSU vs OU would also be interesting as a Rose Bowl game

    I do give BSU credit but they aren't in the same tier as LSU/Bama
     
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    Bama and LSU did what they needed to do

    Now let's see if the BCS let's the 2 best teams in the land play for the championship or if they continue to make a mockery of it

    this is the one time in a long time when the 2 best would actually play against each other
     
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    I use to like Bobby Petrino. After this weekend I have lost all respect for the bastard. He got pissed off b/c LSU kicked a field goal to make it 41-17 with over 5 minutes left in the game.

    Could he whine a little more? Was LSU suppose to just hand them the ball? This coming from a coach who has beaten teams worse the. What LSU beat them.....lol.

    Petrino is a sore loser.
     
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    Looks like Urban Meyer is coming to OSU. As a Ohio native with one heck of a record as a head coach at Utah, Bowling Green, and Florida - he looks like the best man for the job.
     
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    I thought he had a heart condition, which is why he retired????

    Was that all BS b/c Tebow and company departed or was he in trouble at UF for other reasons?

    I don't get this call.
     
  21. sec

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    I honestly believe that it was a little of both

    urban is no dumb bunny and must have seen the signs that FL was going into a serious rebuilding period and didn't think he could last through it.

    It's best to grab the stick and lead the parade instead of being run out of town on the stick.

    I'm not sure how receptive the OSU fans will be to the spread formation.
     
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    How will you and other fans feel about running the spread?

    Are you willing to accept 2-3 years of lackluster performance while the program gets rebuilt?
     
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    I don't care what kind of offense a coach runs as long as its successful and run correctly. You act as if OSU fans will be pissed off if they don't see the I formation. As long as OSU is winning the fans will be happy.

    It will obviously take a year or two for Meyer to get going. It's just part of the process.
     
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    I call BS to that and let me re-phrase that for you

    as long as OSU beats Michigan the fans will be happy
     
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    Negative. Beating Michigan is a given, but if he's pulling 6-6, 7-5 types of seasons he won't last long, reguardless. You're talking about a program that has more TV time and fan exposure than any other college in the country. A program thats been to and won more BCS games than any other program. If Meyer is getting payed over 40 million dollars, he better be producing.
     

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