210 Democrats Voted Against Providing Immediate Medical Assistance to Babies Who Survive Abortion

everybody is.

 

Doesn't happen. It does happen with aborted babies. So try using an apples and apples comparison next time.

 

Read what I said again...this time pay attention to words like "that fail to try". Fully reading a post generally helps with reading comprehension.

 

The law does not set forth any procedures that must be taken following an abortion and provides no penalties to doctors that fail such procedures. IE: The doctor doesn't have to even check for a pulse after an abortion procedure. Just yank it out and dump it in the biohazard bin and done.

 

That seems contradictory to the stance that there is systemic racism in our laws. Hope you don't argue that there is.

 

Everybody is in general covered for any kind of circumstance that required emergency care. The law does not set forth any kind of exceptions like a baby following an abortion.

Oh, black people probably get less care in the US. It however doesn't mean that it's lawful. We're talking law. Not how people behave.

Took me 10 seconds of my life to find:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-03228-6

Just marvelous, the US predominantly white culture.

 

You can ignore the parts of my post that you changed the size of. But they are true nonetheless. All that you're doing now is arguing about something that is not being applied to aborted babies as there is evidence of, hence the reason for such a law being needed in the first place. Even the one in 2002.

 

"systemic racism in our laws", which is what I said, is about the law. Which, as you acknowledge is what we're talking about. Again, as I said to you previously, reading the full post is necessary for reading comprehension.

 

The Democratic party does care about rights, namely Civil Rights and Voting Rights. As for power, that is the ultimate goal of all political parties in one form or another.

 

You flat out keep ignoring me from the start that in general everybody is already covered regardless of age and why, hence there is no need to specifically mention that this also includes babies under what exact condition.

 

Really? I'm not aware of any Jim Crow laws still being around.

 

Strawman.

 

You do realize that $31 trillion in debt has been accumulating since the start of this country. We have had 3 presidencies in which the debt was doubled. First was Reagan. The second was Bush Jr. and the Third was Obama. Then you have Trump with $8 trillion. Keep in mind there was GOP controlled of both houses in 6 years of Bush and Obama, Two years under Trump, and a mix for all 6 years of Reagan. YOu cannot lay blame to deficits to one party without looking at the facts of how debt was created since the beginning and who controlled the House most of that time in those three presidencies that I listed.

Second, the true debt is really the public debt, or about $24 to $26 trillion. The rest is IOUs to the Social Security, which is not true debt except it was created in 1982 in that compromise between Democrats and Republicans under Governmental Accounting Rules. But the IOUs is not true debt in any form whatsoever. Just a political tool created by both parties on what the debt was and was not.

 

There are procedures when a fetus is aborted For starters, such fetuses cannot be used in medical research. Second, there are precise medical procedures adopted by the AMA and other medical associations on what to do. So, why have a law again?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25201907/

 

Because as has been shown, there are abortion survivors that were only saved due to special specific circumstances. Others had been left to die...despite your insistence that "in general everybody is already covered regardless of age and why". That is what you are ignoring. Babies are being aborted and left to die because there is a loop hole that doesn't require doctors to check to see if the baby that they just aborted actually survived the abortion process. What about that is so hard to understand?

There is no procedure in place that requires an aborted baby be checked to see if it survived the abortion process. No federal law dictates that. None. Notta. Zip. Not even your "in general everybody is already covered regardless of age and why". A doctor is not going to check if the baby survived (and hence your "in general everybody is already covered regardless of age and why" would apply) unless they are directed to because they just need to believe that it was killed in the abortion process in order to bypass current law. And they can easily believe that if they never even check if the abortion procedure failed and the baby survived.

 

1: 23 women were interviewed.
2: very first line of the first paragraph in your link: "Background and methodology: UK regulations on managing fetal tissue after pregnancy loss, including abortion, are underscored by the concept of 'sensitive disposal'." We are not the UK. What happens over there =/= what happens here in the US.
3: Very last line of the last paragraph in your link: Further research is needed to better inform policy on this issue.

And I saw nothing in your link that says that an aborted fetus must immediately be checked to see if it survived the abortion procedure.

What was the point of you posting this again?

 

Is your issue with the topic (providing medical care to babies who survive abortion) all about who pays for the medical care? Seems to be your main concern.

 

All we have is "testimony" from people who claim they were abortion survivors, all of whom belong to one of the most hardline pro-abortion groups in the Country. First, the term "late term abortion" is imprecise. It is ever-changing. Less than 1% of abortions are "late-term" or about 10,000 per year. If a late-term abortion has been performed, the usual procedure is to administer lethal injection to the fetus. Then abort the baby. However, like everything, not everything goes according to a medical plan. The rest is in the link. It is not a myth, but there is also a lot of medical evidence not being provided either, even among the testimony of abortion survivors.


https://lozierinstitute.org/questions-and-answers-on-born-alive-abortion-survivors/

 

1. Yes they have been interviewed, by the very orgaization I mentioned.
2. It may be the UK but UK and the US share similar medical procedures.
3. yes, further research is needed, but the way anti-abortion advocates politicize the issue, none is needed. You may want to ask why is that.

 

Again, do you think all medical care is free? It's a simple question, you support this law, so you must support your tax dollars being spent to pay for these unborn fetuses medical treatments.

 

do you not think it's worth the tax payers paying?

 

Your first link looks about as valid as a “pregnancy crisis centre”

Now even if we accept their claim

that is over a fifty year period which approximates 360 incidents out of nearly a million abortions per year

But what is the criteria for inclusion? Mother changed her mind? These days it is mandatory for ultrasounds so there is no longer the Twin issue where one was aborted and the other survived. Ultrasounds also pinpoint dating so an inadvertent “late term” pregnancy cannot be done unless planned. This is why it is important to keep abortion legal.

 

Who pays?

 

You mean there is no infanticide law?

 

Nothing in post 143 says that I claimed nobody is ever prosecuted.

Are you just making things up?