210 Democrats Voted Against Providing Immediate Medical Assistance to Babies Who Survive Abortion

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Thought experiment for any of the rightwingers up in arms over this: If Dems introduced a bill tomorrow that would make it illegal to commit murder against black people, would you support it?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    That is just simply not true. Please do your homework. You've fallen for a completely dishonest scam.
     
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    Gladly.

    But first, what will your reaction be when shown that many are left to die? Will you disagree with that? Will you then realize the need for these types of laws?
     
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    https://lozierinstitute.org/questions-and-answers-on-born-alive-abortion-survivors/

    Now, who needs to do their homework?
     
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    XXJefferson#51 said:
    Baby’s born alive in clinics surviving an abortion attempt have on multiple occasions been left to die and get thrown in the trash. That is why we need the law nationwide





    Did you ever get a reply to your request for a source??
     
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    that doesn't happen, this was a bogus bill

    so the right supports socialism now, is what I am hearing?
     
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    Are you serious?

    States are the reason we need a federal law....which I just VERY CLEARLY showed you and proved you wrong.

    Go on and continue to deflect. It's all you have at this point.
     
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    Are you aware of sites like www.google.com and www.duckduckgo.com?

    https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...BAUQBSgAegQIJhAB&biw=2560&bih=1289&dpr=1#ip=1

    I would think you'd want to have a clue what you're talking about and might do some research on your own. Apparently that would be an incorrect assumption.
     
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    Feel good fluff from anti-abortion advocates.

    Is this a thing? Does this even happen? Who determines what is alive and not?
     
  11. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    . . . You are literally admitting that you do not understand that there are both state and federal laws. No, federal laws do not come from state laws. That's not how this works. Please read the Constitution.
     
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    Republicans always have an uphill battle due to a corrupt media and voter fraud. Now women in America think it’s trendy to abort an inconvenient baby.
    Early abortions are bad enough, but late term abortions bring in the question of the doctor’s sanity.
     
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    Hmm. I guess Demokrats don't want everybody to have healthcare.

    Funny how some of their supporters think they do....
     
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    I never said that's how it works.

    Keep doubling down all you want. I've shown that your original statement was wrong. You deflected (as expected).

    I've shown, and it's easy to find with minimal research, that this does happen so yes, clearly extra protections are necessary.

    You are doing nothing more than simply siding with democrats regardless of how bad it looks. Party above all else.
     
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    You haven't shown my original statement was wrong. You "responded" to my statement about federal law by deflecting to state law. One thing we can agree on, the research here was very much "minimal"
     
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    Care is already expected to be provided, ethically and legally, in the situation that this law worries about. But keep in mind born alive doesn't mean it has hope for survival. The most compassionate thing for a being with no hope of survival is comfort care. But even that is too much if we're talking about before the point a mind could exist. So the net effect of this is basically to mandate futile care. Republicans do have a track record of trying to mandate futile care because they get confused on what a person is (not just abortion, but also those with brain death). They think a beating heart is proof of a person. It's not.
     
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    GOOD. They are so dumb that they cant see the looser that that issue is for them
     
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    You claimed democrats didn't vote to let babies die.

    I showed that to be false since states are letting them die and thus the democrats are voting to allow that to continue. It's really pretty simple.

    It's cool, keep choosing party above all else. I mean, who gives a **** if babies die?
     
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    The symbol is democrats voted against it. Party of death.
     
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    But their is no symbolism in trying to legislate a law that already exists…..

    Or laws that they know will never be passed by the other house, let alone the Presidents desk…..abolishing the IRS…..

    OK….

    Their is a very radical wing of one party that is literally trying to destroy America right now. Abolish the IRS…….c’mon man.
     
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    Yup.... Democrats (and me) are the folks that legitimately support parents rights...
     
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    fake news
     
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    So awesome. A baby is born alive and you can proudly say '**** em, let em die'
     
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    This is already federal law. It's cool. Keep holding party over homework. I mean, who gives a duck about blatantly misrepresenting easy verifiable facts?
     

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