210 Democrats Voted Against Providing Immediate Medical Assistance to Babies Who Survive Abortion

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  1. wist43

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    Didn't say you were a communist, and it doesn't matter where you reside within the left, it is all poison.

    Once you leave the safety and protection of republican governance, it becomes a wild ride of corruption to the bottom. America is on that ride now.

    America abandoned the rule of law in the 30's, and in less than 100 years we are nearing the end... those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

    It is what it is.
     
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    Sadistic? I'm not the one advocating for a fetus who was aborted to be forced to live with all the ailments and abnormalities it may have because religious reds feel better about themselves making that happen.
     
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    I don't defend the GOP, but they are far better to deal with than any leftist.
     
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    So what about kids with cancer who need medical assistance $ to pay the medical bills. If I'm not willing to pay the bill for them myself, should we let them die?

    That's the same thing as what you're saying.

    Maybe you have an age threshold? Is it a week old, a year, maybe 5 years?
     
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    Would you be against a mother killing her 10 month old baby because she doesn't want it anymore?
     
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    Try really hard to get the difference between BORN and UNBORN...there is a very big difference.
     
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    Oh , don't be throwing facts around like that ;)
    You'll scare the Anti-Choicers :) who are convinced Democrats barbeque fetuses...you know, that level of "thought"
     
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    Indeed I have a point. The law that McCarthy’s clowns want to introduce has been on the books for 20+ years…
     
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    Yes and the babies in question are technically born.

    So would you have a problem a mother killing her 10 month old infant because she doesn't want it?
     
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    That’s why I said "FYI and just so you don’t make a mistake…”
    duh

    Being a rightie, you wouldn’t know.

    Yeah, Trump with his $3 trillion addition to the national debt was a great example. Now we have Republicans plotting on how to do as much damage to Democrats as possible and doing NOTHING about our needs and problems including their asinine fight over the debt ceiling.
     
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    Source your nonsense.
     
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    4 of your 5 links are broken.

    Did you copy and paste these from some weird spread sheet of old links you have or something?

    The only one that pulled up was HR 2112 and is from 2014, Bill filled with pork and other restrictions... playing politics with "hungry kids" to get a bunch of other crap passed.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/2112

    I would have opposed it too. But not for the feeding kids provisions like the left would lead you to believe.


    On the contrary:

    A bipartisan bill with support:

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th.../cosponsors?r=85&s=1&q={"party":"Republican"}
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Try really hard to get the difference between BORN and UNBORN...there is a very big difference.

    And the babies in question are not 10 months old....
     
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    they gave crumbs to the poor in return for big payouts for the rich

    that is called a compromise, not supporting it
     
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    So what's your age threshold? How about a mom with a 1 month old infant? You are okay with her killing it if she no longer wants it?
     
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    It's not about outlawing murder. That's you moving the goal post to dig your partisan heals in.

    It's a law that REQUIRES medical response to survivors.

    Yes, I would support a bill that requires a doctor work to revive somebody, and that is wholly different than murder.
     
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    This thread just proves the left, regardless of all the "when is somebody alive" BS support the murder of babies.

    ****ing absolutely disgusting.

    We certainly don't know how often babies are left to die during a botched abortion, but it absolutely happens.

    Makes me sick to my stomach these people walk among us.

    • In an undercover video released in April 2013, a D.C. abortionist admitted he would not intervene to save an abortion survivor. When asked about a baby being born alive during an attempted abortion, he said, “usually, at this point in your pregnancy, it’s too early to survive, usually. It will expire shortly after birth…it’s all in how vigorously you do things to help a fetus survive at this point.” Later he said, “we would not help it [the baby]. Let’s say. We wouldn’t—we wouldn’t—uh, intubate, let’s say.”
    • In another undercover video released in March 2017, a former Planned Parenthood medical director said that in order to determine whether to provide medical intervention for these babies, “You need to pay attention to who’s in the room.”
    • A Planned Parenthood lobbyist in 2013 opposed the Infants Born Alive Act in Florida, saying, “We believe that, you know, any decision that’s made should be left up to the woman, her family, and the physician.” Abortion advocates leapt to the lobbyist’s defense, targeting the Infants Born Alive Act’s “fundamentally flawed assumption that this type of situation is a real risk” and asserting that born-alive infants were “incredibly unlikely.” However, since 2013 when the Act was signed into law, 42 babies have been born alive during abortions in Florida.
    • In a 2019 interview with WTOP in Washington, D.C., in which he endorsed a permissive late-term abortion bill, Virginia Governor Ralph Northam dismissed concerns about abortions performed while a woman is giving birth, explaining, “The infant would be delivered; the infant would be kept comfortable; the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desire, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
    • Abortion survivor Melissa Ohden testified to the House Judiciary Committee in 2015, “You wouldn’t know it by looking at me today, but in August of 1977, I survived a failed saline infusion abortion…. I know where children like me were left to die at St. Luke’s Hospital—a utility closet. In 2014, I met a nurse who assisted in a saline infusion abortion there in 1976, and delivered a living baby boy. After he was delivered alive, she followed her superior’s orders and placed him in the utility closet in a bucket of formaldehyde to be picked up later as medical waste after he died there, alone.”
    • Gianna Jessen, another adult survivor of abortion, also testified to the House Judiciary Committee in 2015, stating, “I was delivered alive in an abortion clinic in Los Angeles on April the 6th, 1977. My medical records state: ‘Born alive during saline abortion’ at 6 am. Thankfully, the abortionist was not at work yet. Had he been there, he would have ended my life with strangulation, suffocation, or leaving me there to die.”
    • Many young survivors have grown up and chosen to go public with their stories. The testimonies of individuals who were born alive during abortions are featured on https://abortionsurvivors.org/. A Fox News interview with Ohden and two other abortion survivors, one of whom testifies he lost an arm in the process, aired on February 11, 2019.
    • Late-term abortionist Kermit Gosnell flouted Pennsylvania law for years before suspicion of the illegal sale of drugs caused the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Administration to raid his “House of Horrors” in 2010. Most disturbing among what they found was evidence of the intentional killing of babies who had survived Gosnell’s abortion procedures. These “snippings,” as he called them, involved using a scissors to sever the spine of babies who survived his brutal abortions.
    • In 2005, a mother delivered her 23-week-old baby in the toilet at EPOC Clinic in Orlando, Florida, and was shocked to see him move. Abortion staff not only refused to help but turned away paramedics, whom her friend had notified by calling 911. Angele could do no more than helplessly sit on the floor rocking and singing to her baby for 11 minutes until he died.
    • In 2006, Sycloria Williams delivered her 23-week-old baby on a recliner at A Gyn Diagnostic Center in Hialeah, Florida. When she began breathing and moving, abortion clinic owner Belkis Gonzalez cut the umbilical cord and zipped her into a biohazard bag, still alive.
    • In 2013, Jill Stanek testified before the House Judiciary Committee about her experience as a registered nurse in the labor and delivery department at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois, where she discovered babies being aborted alive and shelved to die in the department’s soiled utility closet. She said, “I was traumatized and changed forever by my experience of holding a little abortion survivor for 45 minutes until he died, a 21/22-week-old baby who had been aborted because he had Down syndrome.”
     
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    Dude! They sponsored it. 182 or so Republicans voted in favor of it.

    If this was your source for showing Republicans don't support feeding hungry kids, you failed. Miserably.
     
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    Why do religious reds have a difficult time understanding the words BORN and UNBORN?

    When your Child develops cancer after they're BORN, I am quite sure their Mother and Father will do whatever it takes to take care of them.

    Now I ask again, who is going to fork over the money to keep the UNBORN fetus that was aborted alive? Would you support government forcing the woman who chose abortion to pay?
     
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    Of course not. Before asking ridiculous questions, figure out the difference between BORN and UNBORN.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    FoxHastings said:
    Try really hard to get the difference between BORN and UNBORN...there is a very big difference.


    And the babies in question are not 10 months old....



    Nor are they one month old....why do wish that babies should suffer?

    AND we are NOT talking about women who don't WANT their babies....you seem thoroughly confused.
     
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    The babies we're discussing are born. They survived the abortion and are living outside of the mother. Now try answering again.
     
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    The irony of that statement
     
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    NOW explain why you think NONE of these people were prosecuted ?????????????

    THAT IS what you are claiming
     
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