210 Democrats Voted Against Providing Immediate Medical Assistance to Babies Who Survive Abortion

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    No, they were not born. They were aborted.

    Listen, if you are more than happy keeping that aborted unborn fetus alive, send your money to them. Please be sure to continue to send your money all through their life because you care for them so deeply.

    God bless you.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Try really hard to get the difference between BORN and UNBORN...there is a very big difference.


    And the babies in question are not 10 months old....




    Nor are they one month old....why do wish that babies should suffer?

    AND we are NOT talking about women who don't WANT their babies....you seem thoroughly confused.


    LOL, so you can't address my post....:) :)
     
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    I guess you had no confidence in your knowledge of Marx and socialism.
     
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    How could Marx say that!? What kind of decent Christian man would say such a thing?
     
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    He was predicting (probably erroneously) that the family unit would transform into something else under socialist culture. I don’t see it, actually, but it doesn’t really matter because he wasn’t advocating laws, legal action and forceably separating families.
     
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    Again, it doesn't matter what flavor of authoritarianism you subscribe to - trying to untangle the differences, or picking and choosing particular ingredients to make the poison more palatable is a fools errand.

    America's Founding Fathers cut right through all of that and founded a stable and simple Federal Republic.

    We abandoned that successful foundation 90 years ago, and are now within sight of collapse.

    I would think you should be more interested in saving your own skin at this point - if you really understood what was happening.
     
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    Republicans and Democrats... 2 moving parts, it's so complicated ;)

    Like I said, read Gramsci and Machiavelli... put those two theoreticians together and you'll be on your way.
     
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    I guess you still have no confidence in your knowledge of Marx and socialism.
     
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    It's more nuanced than that I think. At its core, freedom is letting people do what they want so long as they don't harm others, and then actually having realistic options. Governments are potent potential threats to or facilitators of that. Things like the bill of rights help. But also keep in mind: Today, more than back then, corporations are also capable of great power that can threaten rights.
     
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    You're the leftist. It isn't enough for you to have destroyed America, you have to be Richard Burton reeducating Winston Smith too??

    How do you plan on surviving after the collapse?? When do you think the bottom drops out???
     
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    Freedom isn't complicated or nuanced. Micromanaging everybody's everything, on the other hand, is.

    The Constitution is pretty straightforward. Those seeking to overthrow our country, however, are having none of it.

    The Constitution will be gone within 10 years. We'll see what freedom looks like then.
     
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    Actually they were in fact born alive after the abortion attempt failed. They are post viability obviously still breathing and alive after all that. The proposed law requires than a live born human being be given medical attention needed to stay alive. Even if they survived an abortion attempt to be born alive.
     
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    "This thread just proves the left, regardless of all the "when is somebody alive" BS support the murder of babies."

    some anti-choicers will do and say anything to justify forcing rape victims to have their rapists babies
     
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    dude, that was a concession to dems, the meat of the bill was what they wanted
     
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    About 1% of abortions are from rape.
    I don't know the stats of failed abortions, but I'd imagine it's a very low number, probably less than 1%, and it also means the mother is rather far along in her pregnancy for the baby to remain alive. Maybe 1% of the 1% of those who waited until late in pregnancy, and with that knowledge, THIS is your conclusion?

    Surely it can't be that those of us with a conscious don't want living breathing babies to be left to die on the table, it must be that want to force rape victime to have their rapists babies? And with that, you want anyone to take you as a valid poster?
     
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    late term abortion is rare, only use when the life of the potential mother is at risk - they are done in hospitals as a last resort, and they try to save both the potential child and the potential mother, this was just a bogus law, everyone knows it

    no anti-abortion laws at the federal level will pass, none.....
     
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    It is rare, but it is not only used for risk of mother as you stated.

    And wait, so you DON'T think it anti choicers wanting rape victims to have babies? You changed your mind?

    And I'm not anti choice, I'm pro choice until a certain time like when a baby is able to live on it's own outside of the mother.
     
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    it is anti-choicers wanting to force rape victims to have their rapists babies, just as a said

    do you support rape victims having abortions? yes or no?
     
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    You change your mind every 5 minutes? Is it rape victims being forced to have babies or is it medically necessary to save the mother?

    Me personally, I'm pro choice until a certain point in the pregnancy, 25 weeks or so.
     
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    all of the above, abortions are had for many reasons

    glad to hear you support abortions until 25 weeks
     
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    All of the above is not an answer. You made a ridiculous statement, flipped flopped, and now are trying to get out of it. I will always call it out.
     
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    nope, you thinking this is only about one issue is ridiculous, it's bigger than that

    no anti-abortion laws will pass at the federal level, the people do not want them
     
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    So who pays for all the medical intervention to keep the aborted fetus alive? Are you willing to fork over your money?
     
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    Here's one for ya Kode... how is "the left" operated?? Who steers the various movements and controls the battlefronts??

    Do you have any idea what the goal is??
     
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    I know some fanatics who talk like you. I should introduce you.
     

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