3 Muslim men murdered in Birmingham

The only thing government can do is end its coddling and free handouts and make people become more reliant on themselves. When personal responsibility is returned to the citizen they will find that many of the other issues will fix themselves.

 

How's those Mexican's doing eh? I bet they get your xenophobic twitch going too. And BTW I love the way you call European's "trash" and simultaneously deny xenophobia. I love it!

 

Agreed. But should our leaders not lead by example?

 

Most immigrants generally live together in the same communities (this is true of any social group - whites included). In the UK these communities are typically poor, as the jobs there have disappeared. Poverty breeds intolerance. There is an element of "gangsta rappa" wank but I do not believe this is the root cause. People need a sense that that can improve their circumstances, that they can provide something better for their kids than they had themselves. The environment in the UK does not support this.

 

If there is a lack of leadership, it's to be found in the communities and homes.

 

I do not wish for absolute socioeconomic equality, it's impossible. But the way the equation is at this moment, it is nearly impossible to "earn it" - so saying so is naive to assume this is possible.

Calling the riots simple "anarchy and thuggery" is simplistic and elete politicians and the media would love us to fall for it - well done!

 

Maybe they should demand their govenments stop these insane wars and spend the money on the people.

 

This is utter BS! While I feel that the social safety net should be avilable to everyone, it is not a lifestyle choice. However, removing it will not make riots go away - it will make them worse, unless the current equation of power is changed. People need hope for their future and they are not getting it.

 

What are you talking about with the Mexicans? Their internal matters are their own to handle, they will not like it if the US has to step in. Again, there is nothing to fear, so the xenophobia card fails once again.

The term trash is used with contempt, not out of fear, I think you'd understand such things, but sadly you don't.

 

Absolutely, but this will not end this situation. It is way way more complicated than this. There are so many in's and out's to this that it is mindboggling. With so many reasons it's easy for people to blame "thugs".

For example: our politicians are supposed to lead by example, yet we know now that the vast majority have been ripping off the tax payer for decades (some are in prison for it). Honestly, why would youths with nothing even listen to government any longer?

 

The ones in the US - duh!

And you can use the term however you like, your anger shows your true self. Fear.

 

It's strange to me hearing Americans talk of Euro Trash

Most of their ancestors were Euros and family trees would show their own families as 'Euro Trash'

Very strange!

 

We get loads of them in the UK and Ireland coming back to find their heritage, in Scotland they buy themselves a kilt and walk around in it. "My great granddaddy" etc.... *shakes head*.

 

as an Egyptian we are experts on government ripping of our wealth

maybe the UK needs a revolution and oust them

have a government that works for the people not works for other governments against the people

 

That's an internal matter, we don't need some foreigner's opinion on such things.

Anger? Hardly, just cold contempt for what has become a wasteland of liberal excess.

 

yes it's very strange

maybe a lot of them think their ancestors really were American and were always there way back when they were wearing animal skins as clothes and they will find DNA in some old fossils of pure American gene

The American race gene

 

Ohhhh, so our "internal matters" are open for debate by you, but your matter in "internal" - LOL at you. Seriously, you're a joke buddy.

Adding "liberal excess" is a joke - the excess has been everywhere, at least I'm man enough to admit that both sides are to blame when discussing excess. A joke like you is not man enough.

 

That particular person is very much anti-American and spews garbage about my country on a regular basis. I generally respond in kind.

My family came here to get away from Europe and its blood lust, failed policies, and to give themselves and their children a better future. They assimilated and taught their children to love and appreciate America, not to become to beholden to what left behind. As far as I'm concerned I was born an American and have no attachment to Europe at all.

 

You rely on us for your defense, your matters concern us. Our matters are of no concern to lesser nations like yours. When you no longer rely on us, perhaps your opinions will be taken seriously.

It is liberal excess that is causing the problems, that's the simple reality. If you fail to see that, there isn't much I can do. Interesting that you are so insecure about being Euro-trash that you must try to prove your manliness to complete strangers on the internet, I pity you.

 

Sounds like these things came with you. You do have the highest murder rate in the Western world, have invaded two countries of late (plus all the other "interventions" and lets just not even talk about "failed policies".

 

Anti American feeling is rising so there must be a reason for it.

Maybe it's not garbage they speak but the truth but you dont like to hear it.

There are a lot of very blind American here and maybe it's do do a lot with isolation and lack of knowledge because you seem to be easily manipulated by media.
Only a very low percentage have passports so therefore do not travel so rely on media to learn about other cultures. That media distorts as it sees fit for it's own agenda.
Europeans are much wiser and travel more and know more.

Your family would maybe have been better staying in Europe unless of course money is all you care about as seems to be with Americans.
Sometimes money and wealth make you lose the real ideal things in life.

You exchange a lot in return for money and a new car and mostly all on credit anyway.

Here we dont have credit. We buy using notes of cash or using gold.
Credit cards are not common here so people live within their means.
Europeans in certain countries like Italy and German and Scandinavians save money rather than spend it.
Americans spend what they dont have.

 

LULZ. You have a vastly bloated military, which relies upon our generosity to allow your troops on our soil. We have two countries with significant nuclear deterents and militaries in line with our needs. You have MIC.

Pitty me please, I'm laughing at you in the mean time.

 

NATO was set up as a tool against the Soviets.


The US use NATO to rape and plunder and attack and threaten half the world now.

It's not about defence at all.

You are all paranoid and easily manipulated by the media and draw others into your madness.

Check out the profiles of your congress and see who the real enemy is.

 

No country is perfect, we do have problems, but again, none of which should be any concern of yours.

How many invasions and 'interventions' does Europe boast? In the last century hundreds of millions have died because of your blood lust and destructive ways, hardly a place that should be spouting off about what America does. I don't suppose there were any failed policies involved, nothing like 'appeasement' or anything like that comes to mind...

 

Its how its presented that matters. Reasonable conversations can be had.

Had my family stayed in Europe they would have had to survive two world wars and countless other military actions. It wasn't just money, they could see the failures all around and moved away from it.