3 Muslim men murdered in Birmingham

It's odd that when I point out the christian invasions and inquisitions of the past, right wingers point out that this is the past. Now it's important again.

Odd.

And BTW 12000 homicides a year is MASSIVE. And errrr the Chinese pwning your arses. Saddly I might add, as there are clearly a lot of very nice American's, alongside the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags.

 

Now you are in the US paying for really crazy wars now and of those, ones you cannot possibly win.
Nothing changed except their son now is more threatened by attack from outside sources, Americans who once were respected abroad are not now, you are seen as warmongers, uneducated and celebrity and media driven .
Seems to me like big failure all around.

 

Vastly bloated? Hardly, our military is a cornerstone to our superpower status. We could take a look at that for a moment if you wish. When Europeans had such status what did they do with it? Why invade every land they could reach and exploit as many people as they could, and if exploitation was good enough they simply resorted to slaughter and attempted genocide. How many of the world's problems of today are based entirely on failed European colonization? Most of Africa is mess because of how the Europeans divided the area to limit tribal power, and we still see the ramifications of that today. The Middle East still bares the scars of European intervention, just look how well the whole Palestinian/Israeli issue turned out. South Asia, particularly the Pakistan/India divide, which oddly placed Bangladesh as part of Pakistan and created the whole Kashmir mess, now that was great planning! You don't even seem to understand the horrendous legacy Europe has poxed the world with, yet you have the gall to question America? We are the very definition of benevolence in comparison.

I hear laughter is a coping mechanism, I glad you found one that works for you.

 

Indeed, the only NATO allies of worth turned out to be the UK and Turkey, everyone else is utterly useless.

What NATO does is done with the full authority of its member states, don't try to shift all that blame to the US. They are equally responsible but because they are weak an pathetic they never get assigned their proper share of the responsibility.

I rarely rely on the media for anything, its more or less entertainment. Information of value comes from viewing multiple sources with differing viewpoints and discerning the truth by seeing what each have in common.

 

Oh its not just in the case of the victim dying rather than surviving, a serious crime is a serious crime.



A RAPE investigation has been launched after a woman was attacked at the side of a main Wigan road.


The 27-year-old told detectives she was sexually assaulted on a grass verge at the side of Scot Lane, Martland Mill, in the early hours of Friday morning.

Forensic teams were soon combing the area for clues as detectives prepared to interview the distraught victim.

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I think Lara Logan and everyone else realises that there is little hope of justice being done in your country unlike Britain. Apparently sexual attacks on Egyptian women are part of the daily humdrum and nobody cares much just because the victim happens to be a white Westerner.

According to Mohy, news of what happened to Logan is not widely known throughout Egypt and, so far, response to his proposed protest hasn’t been entirely positive. In fact, MyFoxNY.com reports that a Facebook group meant to draw attention to the protest has drawn comments expressing disappointment that an assault sustained by a foreign white woman is garnering so much international attention and outrage while those encountered by Egyptian women on a daily basis go mostly ignored.

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Its a shame your pal Free Bahrain isn't around as I was explaining to her the essentials of what a police force is.

 

The difference is that I do not deny the arrogance of historic European imperialism - in fact I'm ashamed by it. Be prepared for the shame, it's in the post.

 

I guess that depends on what you consider winning. Winning is having two functioning countries that are not dominated by oppressive regimes that use their population as their play things or go off slaughtering them as a way to silence dissent. Both countries we are in have that potential which was not available prior to our direct involvement.

We are the only superpower, we are seen negatively because we pursue our interests, just as all countries do. The primary difference is we have far greater means and reach than most countries can dream of at this point. Many may look at us with disapproval, but what would they do in our place? Too often what we do that can be construed as negative is grossly inflated and what we do that is positive is simply ignored. Such things are common, and simply go with having power.

 

When your debt is owned by the communists and you're a capitalist nation, it's hard to claim you have hegemony. They have a nice grip on your foreign policy now - and you're own nation placed the noose around your neck.

 

All you say is true however the US just took over as head now. 1 million dead in Iraq. Support for ethnic cleaning in Palestine, itching to pull the trigger on Iran, causing friction in the far East, Yarab the list is endless..

 

I try to keep the conversation to within the limits of American history. As that is what is important to me. Discussing even greater spans of Euro-trash history simply reminds us all of the oceans of blood you people spilled over the centuries.

We kill ourselves slowly you guys like to kill each other by generations to satiate your blood lust. The people you find to be nice Americans are generally those that have been brain washed by other liberals to think what you offer is something other than failure, not everyone is so blind by idealism and emotions.

 

We have yet to see the full results of our current ventures, judging them failures now would be even greater European arrogance, par for the course I'm afraid.

 

You could probably solve a lot of the problems you create by not installing and supporting dictators that's if you really cared about the people of those countries but you dont. Your foreign policy is clearly about supporting dictatorships till they outlive their usefulness to you. A point now that other potential dictators will be studying because they too now realise that they are only valuable as long as they are working for you which is automatically against the people. They know in the end the US will drop them as soon as they feel like it.

 

Iraq is the only issue you posted in which there is direct US involvement. The Palestinian issue is at worst a proxy issue, but then at the same time where is the blame pointing towards those that arm the Palestinians? Lets be fair here, both sides are killing each other, but the Palestinian supporters are ignored.

If we wanted to pull the trigger on Iran we would. Its all rhetoric, and it serves a purpose, to remind them that we haven't forgotten them, and should they provoke us there will be a response. We haven't gone beyond that.

In the far East I'm not sure exactly what you are talking about. Our dealing in Korea are based upon a long standing entanglement that we should remove ourselves from, we should also free ourselves from Japan. As to our actions in places like Indonesia much of that stems from our own desire to protect ourselves from terrorists threats. As to the Yarab? Are you speaking about Yemen or something I'm unfamiliar with that term and that's the only decent reference I could find, forgive my ignorance on the matter.

 

It's the double standards that send people crazy.

You arm Israel. Then when you see others arming Hezbullah or Hamas you say that is wrong?????

How can it be?
Double standards.

Not everyone in the world agrees with the USA. BUT the USA seems others who disgree as terrorists too. If we are not with you then we are against you mentality.

Maybe if you stopped arming the IOF they would finally have to be forced to pull back to 67 then we can see some kind of end to this but you dont. You give the school bully all the tools he needs to prolong the bullying.

You are desperate to pull the trigger on Iran. You will go to any lengths to fullfil what the zionists want. You will even try to use an old method like WMD but instead calll them nuclear weapons even thought you have not a single shred of evidence of one bomb!

YOU are the ones going around the world provoking. You just can't help yourself interfering in other peoples business. Time to stop and mind your own.

The Far East.
Your war games, your complete provocation in the region. Your sending arms to Taiwan then condemning weapions being send to Hezbullah. It would be funny if it were not so serious.
Your interference between Japan and China.

Why can you not leave people alone to sort out themselves. You escalate everything into a war!

Yarab is not a country.

As an American I'm sure you looked in the atlas index for it

It means 'Oh God'.
It is Arabic for when you are exhausted by being told rubbish and lies.

 

Life must be so much more pretty through your rose tinted glassed buddy.

 

It would be naive to believe that Iraq will be better off.

 

What were they doing there in the first place?

Just imagine....They would still be alive today. If they stayed in their home country.

Trajic....Simply Trajic.

 

Why do you assume that they're not UK citizens? Is it because they have funny sounding names?

 

I said my country isn't perfect, I don't need rose colored glasses, only socialists need stuff like that. Reality is generally too harsh for them, which is why they spend so much time in lala land dreaming up how they can create a Marxist utopia on the backs of everyone else.

 

Cut out the race rubbish please. It had nothing at all to to with race. Many people of different races and cultures and social income class were involved.

 

Yeah, you'd just love that wouldn't you?

 

Any issues America has with Iran are of America's own making. If you hadn't been so stupid as to depose a democratically elected government there in the first place (meanwhile trumpeting what a pristine example of a democracy America is), you wouldn't have the problems you're now reaping.

 

Your close on that....It does seem difficult to except that Mohammed Hanjinassad Alajari as a brit national.

But, I guess if the muslim male population inpregnate enough white british women....in 10 years from today.
England's majority civilization will have a new skin color.....Dark Olive.

 

I've got a Polish funny-sounding name. Do you have a problem with that, Squirl-Boy?

 

There's your problem right there. Your immigrant status makes you assume everyone else must be.