Completely uncalled for! Fortunately no one was killed. Will turn out to be directly related to the war:
I'm willing to wait around for details before commenting further. I don't like making speculations when it comes to attacks. I'm opposed to all initiation of violence. I'm only okay with violence in defense against violence or threats of violence.
This will finally allow us to alter our policy in the Middle East. We cannot be a secular nation, and pick any side in a religious-national dispute. We don't want the madness and mayhem to spread into this country. We should declare ourselves neutral to both and defend our secular western values.
Until we know who did it-all we can say is someone is a violent criminal and needs to be deal with accordingly. I remember after 9-11 some idiot killed a Sikh taxi driver thinking the man was a Muslim (and even if he was a muslim the killer should have received LWOP). Anyone who understands that part of the world and the Sikhs were shocked at the idiocy as well as the unjustified violence by the moron
These 3 young men were shot approx 6:30 pm in a residential area so it was dark out. Hopefully someone's security camera picked up a man walking in the area. video from local news https://www.wcax.com/video/2023/11/26/police-say-three-shot-downtown-burlington/
walking up and shooting without speaking could be that one of them could have been targeted for something totally unrelated or the guy was just nuts. Who knows. Too early to tell.
No matter who gets shot and for whatever reason, 3 shootings in Vermont will alter nothing outside of maybe Vermont.
CNN 3 Palestinian students were shot in Vermont. Civil rights groups are calling for a close look at the motive 1 hour ago Burlington Free Press Burlington VT shooting: 3 men injured in a potential hate crime 4 hours ago Al Jazeera Three Palestinian men shot in Vermont, US amid Israel-Hamas truce 5 hours ago NBC News Burlington, Vermont, shooting live updates: Three Palestinian college students shot on their way to dinner LIVE1 hour ago WCAX Police say three shot in Burlington 22 hours ago
18m ago / 6:32 PM EST Brown says victim attended university, is expected to survive Kaetlyn Liddy and Dennis Romero In a statement today, Brown University President Christina H. Paxson said victim Hisham Awartani, a junior at the institution, remains hospitalized and is expected to survive. In the statement addressed to the Brown community, Paxson said relatives allowed her to share that Awartani is Palestinian Irish American. "There are not enough words to express the deep anguish I feel for Hisham, his parents and family members, and his friends," Paxson said. "I know that this heinous and despicable act of violence — this latest evidence of anti-Arab and anti-Palestinian discrimination and hate spiraling across this country and around the world — will leave many in our community deeply shaken." She indicated care and support were available on campus for those in need. She also urged community members to "express care and empathy for one another." SHARE THIS - 1h ago / 5:41 PM EST No indication of connection to school, University of Vermont says Mirna Alsharif The University of Vermont said in a statement today that “we have no indication” that the shooting is connected to the school, cautioning that the investigation continues. "We are saddened by reports of a shooting at approximately 6:30 pm last night on Prospect Street in Burlington near UVM, injuring three out-of-state visitors," President Suresh Garimella and Provost Patty Prelock said in the statement. "Currently, we have no indication of a connection to the university community, but the investigation is at an early stage." The three victims were in town to visit and were not students at the university. University police and campus safety teams are providing security in and around campus, "as is common in the wake of any significant safety incident," the university said. "Our hearts go out to the victims and to all who are impacted by this incident. We encourage members of the UVM community to reach out for support as needed and we encourage you to support those around you," it said. link: Burlington, Vermont, shooting live updates: Three Palestinian college students shot on their way to dinner
It will only alter the families affected. The same way any shooting situation does. Major policy change?? Not a chance. Would venture the shootings were prejudice based. Has prejudice been diffused in this country?? Nope.
Shouldn’t take more than half a day before the righties start posting claims that they were Hamas sympathizers.
Hopefully the young men were able to give a description of the shooter. Thankfully they all survived this tragic event, an event that will alter their lives. Vermont, Burlington and UVM (collage campus they were next to) are known for being liberal-progressive yet we have our share of right-wingers and all the ugly they bring to the table. Though now with the Israel/Palestine issue those lines have become blurred. Since all were shot I doubt it had to do with anything personal. There is a 10,000 reward out for info so that may get the ball rolling on tips.
Talk about ****ing stupid and dangerous. Boston Globe gives female student's name and street who gave a partial description of the suspect and saw him run away. snip; 'Amelia Abernathy, 20, a UVM junior from Virginia, said she was walking toward her home on North Prospect with her dog Saturday evening when she heard at least three pops, about 100 yards down the street. “I’m from the South, so I know what gunshots sound like,” Abernathy said. She saw two victims on the ground, she said, but didn’t see the third. She said she saw the suspect run off but didn’t get a look at his face. He was about 6 feet tall, she said, thin, and dressed in dark clothing. She didn’t hear any words prior to the shooting but heard the victims moaning after they were shot. She thought they were partially covered by white sheets, but realized they were wearing keffiyehs, a traditional Palestinian head scarf. “It’s a little scary,” said Abernathy, who said she gave police a statement. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/11...hile-visiting-burlington-vt-according-police/
Yeah, I'm gonna haveta agree with you here. We don't know yet if this was simply a random attack, politically motivated, some Jussie Smollett kinda thing, or one of those "False-Flag" attacks trolls say things are, space aliens, or something else completely outta the blue. Well, probably not space aliens but still ... I'm reminded of something that happened in the Antelope Valley, CA area a few years back during the BLM riots/Wuhan masking stuff - some kid (who happened to be black) hung himself in front of city hall or the police station, something like that. Everyone started saying it was a racially motivated attack; a modern-day lynching. Turned out it was a deeply disturbed kid who committed suicide and had nothing to do with anything racially or politically.
How quick you were to call out Rep. Tlaib's "anti-Semitism," for the phrase "From the River to the Sea," as compared to your reticence here, to name what is pretty clearly an incident of anti-Islamic violence. But you want to hold out, to make sure that it was not just a coincidence that these three were Palestinian? How open minded of you-- again, a stark contrast from your rejecting Tlaib's explanation of how she thinks of the expression, above, because of your certainty of what she had been thinking, or that there is absolutely no other way that anyone interprets the expression, besides the one way that you translate it.
It isnt "clearly" an incident of anti islamic violence. That is a conclusion you are jumping to. We need more information first.
LOL. That is inconsistent, Moolk, with the snap judgements made of others: for merely criticizing Israel, or being in favor of a cease fire, or simply pointing to the high numbers of Palestinian civilians being killed, many were immediately called "Hamas supporters." It would have been prudent, then, to wait for "more information first," before tossing such an accusation. But, once one has done so, he does not get to take the opposite tack, when the shoe is on the other foot, without showing himself to be a disingenuous hypocrite.
Its not inconsistent at all. I do not make snap judgements of others, I take what they say and critic it...it is a leftist trait to do that. I have no issue with pointing out high numbers of palestinian civilian casualties...its hamas' fault those exist. I do not agree with a cease fire, and believe its more than Hamas deserves. And? Criticing isreal is fine...I critic them regularly. But some critics are valid and rational, others arent and I make my opinion on that heard. And? We had plenty of information on Hamas, and what started this war. We have far less for this shooting. The rational you think you are using and the hypocrisy you think you see, isn't accurate.