3 Palestinian college students shot in Vermont

quick=can you look at those three and say they are Palestinian vs say Lebanese, Jordanian, Saudi, UAE, Quatar Libyan etc?

 

So , do you think that the targets of his shootings were random?? (IF you were to speculate )

 

They were supposedly wearing the Palestinian keffiyeh. Its like someone wearing the Kippah and you doubt they are Jewish. But, I know, I know, you can't believe what you do not WANT to believe.

 

No idea-I would agree that them being perceived as Muslim is the most likely reason at this point but that could have been a motivating factor to another muslim

 

It's an anti semitic attack pure and simple.

 

I am a fairly well educated person-8 years in Ivy universities. I was captain of the Yale Table tennis team that had both a Jordanian and a Lebanese team member. when I was in Law and grad school, I coached squash, one of my best friends and practice partners was an Indian Muslim: the majority of his family were in Pakistan. I would have no idea what Islamic area those three came from if they had not have told me.

 

Could anyone please point out the difference between the keffiyeh worn by the victims and the sudra worn by members of the Ohavi Zedek Synagogue that's about 5 minutes walk down the street? Those members would be people the accused sees walking to Minyan many times a week..

https://ohavizedek.org/membership/

 

Was this a claim, that you plan on backing up?

 

already did-Twit Tlaib has spewed well known Hamas mantras. If some guy wearing a Swastika started howling for the "final solution" I guess you would claim that he might not support genocide against Jews? If a guy draped in sheets is burning a cross-I suppose you could claim he was trying to get rid of termite infested wood? you dont' even know what motivated the alleged shooter. we do know that Tlaib supports Jihad

 

You cannot possibly have, so soon, forgotten, that I had started by calling this "anti-Islamic," violence, and when listing the various possibilities, included "anti-Arab," and "anti-Muslim." This may come as news to you, though, that there are some in this country who draw few if any distinctions, between the different nationalities in the Near/Middle East-- except, of course, for setting Israelis apart from the rest.

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DEFinning said: ↑
How quick you were to call out Rep. Tlaib's "anti-Semitism," for the phrase "From the River to the Sea," as compared to your reticence here, to name what is pretty clearly an incident of anti-Islamic violence...


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DEFinning said: ↑
That is a double standard... But if you are going to arbitrarily call that "anti Semitic drivel," then any reason that the shooter gives, other than because these 3 were Palestinians, by the same token, would be anti-Islamic drivel, based on prima facie evidence. Can you not follow that?

...Otherwise, you are saying that using the expression "From the River to the Sea," is a greater indicator of anti-Jewish intent, than shooting 3 Palestinians is, of anti-Palestinian (or at least anti-Arab, or anti-Muslim) intent. Yeah, right.

 

He's been called by his "first name" Jason from the get-go.
Not surprised you don't know what a "?" means.

 

This is also interesting and also been there before with shootings.

2h ago / 2:48 PM EST
Suspect recently fired from financial services job
Laura Strickler

Jason Eaton, the 48-year-old suspected Vermont shooter, was fired from his job earlier this month at CUSO Financial, the company said today.

"Jason Eaton worked less than a year at CUSO Financial and his employment had been terminated on November 8, 2023. We are horrified by the shooting and are cooperating with law enforcement as they investigate. We have no further comment," a spokeswoman said.

CUSO is an investment adviser firm serving institutions such as credit unions.

 

No, not from the git-go.

 

The expression you cited, is not used, exclusively, by Hamas. That is the point: among Palestinians, there is more than just the one point of view, of Hamas.

And here come your false equivalence arguments:

Had Tlaib been dressed in the Hamas "uniform?" Had there been the name "Hamas" or its insignia, displayed on her attire? If not, I guess your purported analogies, are pretty lame. The Representative had done nothing so unmistakable, AFAIK, as burning a cross on someone's front lawn-- but maybe I missed it? That is what I had asked if your argument would support; instead you just call up other groups, which are rightfully demonized. Do you not even realize that, by your so doing, you are validating the method of the OP, to compare Trump to Hitler? To mirror your own argument-- I suppose if Donald Trump eliminated the Congress, and ended elections, you would think that was okey-dokey? If Trump starting deporting people to concentration camps, I suppose you would think that they should be thankful, for the free transportation?

Nothing you wrote about the Nazi "final solution," or KKK cross burning, applies in the least, to Tlaib (or at least you have not shown that it does). Nor have you shown that the expression which was part of her commercial, has not been used with other meanings, by those other than Hamas. Therefore, you have less basis, factually, to "know" Rep. Tlaib's opinions, about how the longstanding Arab - Israeli impasse would best be resolved, than would one have to interpret, with a higher degree of certainty, that the person who shot these three Palestinians, someplace where their Arabic origins would make them stand out from the general population, had done so, because of the boys' ethnicity.

 

Hell, one looks an Irish kid from Boston with an 80's hair-do...lol.

 

The Palestinian Keffiyeh comes to mind, so no need to be told anything.

 

Do you really think the average American knows a keffiyeh when they see one, or will go, "Ooh! Those guys are Palestinians!"?

 

Did you see my earlier question? Do you know the difference?

 

exactly. it's complete bullshit to assume most people in that part of the world would assume that

 

Is the woman's sudra a Palestinian keffiyeh?
Is she a Jew in solidarity with Palestinians?
No one else in the synagogue website photos are wearing any head or neck scarves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh

 

We don't know if he's even the shooter.

If he is the shooter, we don't know what his motive was.

The notion that he was skulking the streets of 83% white Burlington, at night, in 30° weather, looking for Palestinians to kill is thin, without a lot more evidence; a confession even.

 

The man has on a scarf as well. I don't know anything about this particular group. Don't know what messages they are sending with their clothing. Do know that people from similar regions have similar styles of dress...

https://www.mysudra.com/about

Also, quite easy to confuse a keffiyeh with a tallit I would imagine. In the dark when Jews are walking to the synagogue for a 7pm prayer...

 

His firing could well have been the trigger for his behavior.

 

Yes, it happens quite often. Usually they go after their former colleagues though. This is why it pays to be nice to all of your co-workers.

 

That phrase is antisemitic by every definition. No disputing it. There is no other way to interpret it. But to claim this shooting was Anti-Islamic is based on A LOT of assumptions. Assuming the shooters motives in the first place and that they can even tell one middle eastern looking person from another. Guarantee you 99.9% of Americans couldn't identify what region of the middle east a person might be from, if they're just walking around at night. To know they're Palestinians? Only if they're holding a sign, maybe.