You accuse someone of a crime for 9/11 you had better be prepared to show proof of why you think it was a crime.......Are we going too fast for you?
Boom, the fundamental problem with truthers right there. That is, seriously, what they think when they are attacking the NIST or any report for that matter. They think that they have proven that the explanations cannot possibly be true. Yet, nothing in this general vicinity has even been close to accomplished. Especially by the truther group here. Based off of pure incredulity, and that is another prime reason why the truth movement is going absolutely no where. Could it possibly be that the things you consider reasons, aren't really reasons? Have you ever considered that you're wrong? Again, have you ever considered that you are dodging? We've asked you several times to provide proof. It could be possible that you don't know what dodging means? Dodging means you're avoiding the conversation. i.e.: "RT provide proof of what you're saying." "No, I already did once. It's not worth it" That's a dodge, you dodged providing factual basis by saying nonsense. Please...enlighten me what I should do. I have admitted that the NIST report cannot, and is not, designed to be infallible. There is no possible way in the entire world that we know exactly that happened in every step. The NIST report was created to explain the collapse mechanism using the available evidence. It has done that in spade. There might be little nit picky things wrong with it, but it's the most accurate piece of work available. Uh, decade after decade? It only happened 12 years ago. That's only 1 possible decade. No wonder you have issues understanding the math, you can't even tell time. What about all the areas of your evidence that have been proven to be completely fabricated? How about cj's entire site that you handwave away? How come your movement can deem any form of information to be fabricated, false, or "government" so it is immediately discarded? Why don't you hold yourself to the standards that you are trying to hold debunkers? Why are you going to ignore this or post a quick one line quip about shills? I've always encouraged this. Yes, intelligent reader, take a look at the entire argument and see which one you believe. Do you believe that 19 Islamic terrorists, who hated the US, created a plan to use airplanes as missiles in order to fly them into the WTC, Pentagon and another unknown target? Or is it more rational to believe that a shadowy cabal of limitless people, (including, but not limited too: Firefighters, politicians, the president, vice president, FBI, CIA, police officers, first responders, the presidents brother, mortician, DoHS, airlines, flight attendants, the victims, the victims families, security at the WTC, and countless others) organized a black flag attack on the US's own people in order to go to war against Iraq for WMD's. However, after they organized this attack "with military precision" they then became too inept to fake WMD's in Iraq to justify going to war in the first place, and were shown to be complete morons. That's right, put 2 and 2 together. If you're a truther, you should get the answer of "frog"
Humorous responses there plagued. Your words: There is no possible way in the entire world that we know exactly that happened in every step My words: Yet you insist truthers do exactly this, do you not? Talk about moving goalposts and one set of rules for shills and a different one for the BSers.
No, I don't. Can you quote me saying that anywhere at all or is this just your normal "what I say is true because I say it"? Just more of the same non-sourced, ridiculous nonsense that you spew here on a regular. Oh, calling me a shill again are you? Got anything to back that up? No? Didn't think so. What a joke...
Let's bring this back to the topic of thermXte. Idiot boy Harrit called his paint chips "military grade thermite." Any proof that the military has any use for a thermitic charge that conatins kaolin?
(from post #93) How are they supposed to find evidence of preparation in wreckage. Tell us where you think evidence of preparation would have been found if there had been preparation. The speed at which the towers fell alone proves controlled demolition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG7I4UnoBnA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufZPFYOblKk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUdhdTXHcn4 If it was a controlled demolition, there was preparation. There's some serious circumstantial evidence for preparation if this stuff is true. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O7LwySqtr4 1:03:55 time mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga88UyXTvK4 You people just see what you want to see and ignore anything that doesn't go in the direction of your foregone conclusion.
Talk about reverse logic. You have not proved controlled demolition. Saying 'I think it fell too fast' does not prove anything. Evidence proves things, you have yet to provide it. But Scott, you seemed to have been ignoring my post. On another thread, you called no-planers disinfo shills. We currently have two going at it over on my Pentagon Radar thread. Is koko, in your opinion, a disinfo shill? Being as you also believe in no-planer theories, does that also make you a disinfo shill?
Same old slop bucket full of lies. The towers took a lot more than ten seconds to totally collapse, regardless what a pack of lunatics claim. And Lindauer is nuts and she was not a CIA asset. You think she was a CIA asset? Prove it.
How many times a Nazi bimbo like Shafquat can rattle her head has nothing to do with what happened at the WTC. If you watched the Naudet video, you would have seen Chief Pfeifer reacting to the initial noice of the collapse of the south tower before it was audible on the video. Stuff keeps falling from that point until about 14-16 seconds later. That is how long it took for the towers to fall completely apart. It does not matter how long it took debris from the perimeter walls to hit the ground. THAT would occur at free-fall speed. That does not tell us what was happening behind the dust cloud. Why can neither you nor that Nazi bimbo grasp this fact?
This is about thermite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN6Ld-4tHIA If this link is dead, do a YouTube search on "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Press Conference - Sept. 8, 2010".
Gage harping on for 12 minutes is considered compelling evidence to you? Gee you'll believe anything you're told, wont you? When will you understand the thermite claim is fraud? When will you see Jones, Harrit et al lied to you by publishing a bias paper in a 'pay-to-print' "journal" with a dubious peer review history? That even after almost 4 years the most the paper has done is skulk in the bowels of the internet, being tossed around in obscure conspiracy forums, never once being taken serious in the real world. When will you actually read the paper for yourself and understand why anyone with half a brain laughs at their conclusions? Go back to page one. Watch dprjones's 3 videos. Challenge yourself, instead of being a sheep.
Gage is not the only one. There's a whole line of them here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4 (AE911Truth Experts Speak Out) When two groups of experts say opposite things, one group has usually sold out. This link is from another topic but it has info on how the government can get experts to lie. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597 Peer review groups can be owned. Whenever there is a big scandal, the government hires legions of professional sophists to try to obfuscate the issue and confuse laymen. I don't have the background to comment on the thermite issue but Gage and the other experts who agree with him make a lot of sense and that big group of experts is nothing to sneeze at. There is already other proof of an inside job so the thermite issue isn't about whether the government did it. It's about how the governement did it. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144746
The truther reverse method shows its ugly face again. "I believe 9/11 was an inside job, therefore all I now have to do is speculate exactly how, any theory being plausible, and burden of proof is not required of me. I win."
yeh but there is all that fraud crap troughers pull all the time. shadows where sun should be, explosions before it even hits, and the shadows dont even look like the palne! how ODD! coincidence my fav part is where you can see the column through the wing! wooohoooo! and then that sucking yep reversed explosions, oh those are implosions ahahahaha even a bullet has back wash! but not the super planes! and the water thrown in troughers face to prove the pont but not the super planes! look how fuzzy that is! it shows the explosions probably just steam pipes LMAO thank you mr hezerkhani!
why not go whole hog with that and say du v steel? LMAO you arent talking equivalency with that example but bassackwards. and I even beat you at that! LMAO
The clip koko keeps posting is so crappy it doesn't even show windows....and he whines about 'shadows don't look right' and 'explosions'? Truther logic
