52 Saudi clerics, scholars call to battle Russian forces in Syria

look Muscovite economic model didn´t work even before Crimean occupation , it didn´t grow since 2012 , the numbers of GDP were made off bank speculations . Gazprom , Muscovites banks, etc. took cheap western credits and sold them (expensive) to the ordinary Muscovites. with Crimean Natural Gas or with out it i was just matter of time when the bauble explodes . i am 100% sure that Putin knew it, maybe Crimea was his wild cart? i dont know but i dont see how Muscovy can handle his hybrid war much longer ...

 

wow..that's my cousin's job.He is the one that does that.
I say it's a win if Putin bombs Isis into oblivion.
Which I think he has capability and will to do so.
Obama..notsomuch.

 

Putin is not bombing IS, he has never planned to do so...

 

Well, while we might be contemplating "swatting" the Russian "fly", we'd do well to remember that Russia has more nuclear weapons on hand than any other country on Earth.

I said a long time ago, right after Islamo-Nazis murdered all those school children in Beslan, that "W" Bush and Putin should form a military alliance and wipe out violent Islam everywhere in the world. With the two of us working together, what enemy could possibly stand against our two nations? Instead, here we are, with Obama mumbling and sputtering his feeble, scolding little spew at Putin -- while Putin has gone ahead to take concrete measures to stabilize the Middle East, and secure Russia's interests there and throughout the Eastern Mediterranean.

No, Syrian's al-Assad is not an angel. Neither were Gadhaffi or Saddam Hussein. But surely we could agree that Libya was a lot safer and more stable under Gadhaffi, and, Iraq was a lot safer and more stable under Saddam Hussein than either country has become after the American overthrow of both of those leaders -- with whom we were at PEACE when we did it.

Putin just turned 63. He's got about ten years to consolidate his 'new and more powerful' Russia, and, to pick a successor. He's moving along rapidly, first, suckering Obama into promoting this hideously dangerous nuclear "agreement" with Iran, and now, building an alliance in the Middle East that will involve Iran, Syria, and what's left of Iraq. Europe and Asia, and soon, Africa, will all be in sympathy with Russia and China by the time a war breaks out with the U. S., probably in about ten years from now. If we elect another hyperliberal, Leftist Democrat as president, it may not take even that long.

So, at most, enjoy the next ten years, because it is unlikely that there will be a hell of a lot for Americans to enjoy after that. Thanks, Obama!

 

Russians bomb. Period. They bomb everyone is moving around. And actually, with the involvement of the Russian Army in the Syrian mess this was predictable.

If Saudi Arabs go and face Russians in Syria, the matter will become well more interesting.

In the meanwhile note that Obama administration is reducing the American involvement in that war theater.

 

any info about this arsenal shape?

here i must agree, with you ....There's a footage from the siege that clearly shows Russian forces firing RPO-A thermobaric rockets into rooms containing hostages. Only in "Russia"

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1da_1185879355&comments=1

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i think more about coalition Gulf:s, Turkey , P-stan ...

 

Your cousin is a Test Driller?

AboveAlpha

 

The number of Nuclear Weapons that Russia and the United States has is about the same...Russia has a few more and we don't need as many as Russia as our Nuclear Missiles and their MIRV's are accurate in the extreme.

We also have and are continuing to develop a Global Anti-Ballistic Missile System using a combination of SM-3's ABM/ASAT's and the FEL or Free Electron Laser.

But Nuclear War is obsolete.

The U.S. Military's Conventional Force is capable upon a level that is astronomical.

Russian Weapon's Systems are nowhere near as capable or lethal.

But the United States has no interest in attacking Russia.

Everything that is going on is about Putin trying to hold onto power while he continues to steal the wealth of Russia right out from under his own people.

The United States does not need to use Military Force to contain and Control Russian expansionism.

We could collapse the entire Russian Economy and Monetary System without firing a shot.

AboveAlpha

 

Russia has not caught up to us, it's true. You're right about that. But it is moving as hard and fast as it can to do so. Only one example: Russia stood up an entirely new military organization -- The Arctic Joint Strategic Command, less than ten months ago: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/vo-northern.htm

You're also right about nuclear war being "obsolete", but only in some ways, while not in others. As a strategic weapon, the hydrogen bomb is useful only in a mutual-assured-destruction scenario. As a class of tactical weapons, the non-nuclear thermobaric bombs are much more useful -- all the focused, targeted destruction with none of the radiation!

As to your last observation, "We could collapse the entire Russian Economy and Monetary System without firing a shot." I'm inclined to disagree. Oh, this coercive, manipulative tactic you describe is exactly what the internationalist central-banks and the IMF have been trying to do since they launched a coup against the legitimate government of Ukraine last year because it had decided to ally itself economically with Russia instead of the EU. And, oh, BTW, the "banksters" are THE power brokers in "the West"... they've made house-pets out of British PM's, a German Chancellor, and at least two American presidents -- Idiot Bush and Idiot Obama. They run the EU through the European Central Bank, headquartered in Frankfurt, and they apply their loan-and-subvert strategies through their affiliate organization, the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Putin is riding a genuine popularity wave currently measured by the prestigious Levada Center at 84%: http://www.levada.ru/eng/ . If he's stealing a nation of chess-players blind, then he must be smart, indeed. He does have a Ph. D in Economics, but maybe he's good at sleight-of-hand, too....

 

The U.S. really is not interested in collapsing the Russian Economy and we basically did this then let up when the U.S. and Canada flooded the worlds oil market.

When Putin removed Spetsnaz all along the Northwest shoreline of the Black Sea as Putin intended to annex this swath of the Ukraine to connect by land Russia and the Crimea....the U.S. and Canada cut oil production which allowed oil prices to rise and allowed the Ruble to recover.

Make no mistake we could have completely caused the Russian economies collapse....but we stopped.

AboveAlpha

 

"Russian" Economy is size of New York economy , with other Putin is just a bluffer

not much to Remove ))) Ukrainians did great job on them Vostok (GRU) lost 80% of its veterans . LOL)))

 

And Russia could collapse the Western monetary system if it wanted to, starting with the EU. All it has to do is tell its company's not to repay the eight hundred billion that's due shortly...and it wouldn't hurt Russia a bit. They have the banks in the Far East. Besides that, Russia is also now self sufficient...thanks to the stimuli given them by the sanctions.

Thankfully, Putin is too moral a person to do that, because half the world would end up starving.

 

your post needs these pictures

 

Strange! From what I recall the Novorussiyan leaders were furious with Putin when he forced them into peace talks by closing the Russian border. They were ready to take Mariupol and then proceed to Odessa and Kiev... but as usual Poroshenko started begging for peace, and Putin accommodated him... twice mind you, at Minsk I and II, because he wanted Ukraine to remain intact..

Doesn't fit into your story now does it Alpha? Anyway the bridge to Crimea will be finished shortly.

 

83 held for supporting terrorist groups

http://www.arabnews.com/saudi-arabia/news/815811

JEDDAH: The Interior Ministry has arrested 83 people for allegedly supporting terrorist groups. The arrests took place last month, up to the first day of Eid Al-Adha, in locations across the country, a local publication reported the ministry as stating.

Among those arrested were 66 Saudis, seven Syrians, three Yemenis, two Indians, two Eritreans, and one each from Morocco, Jordan and Nigeria. The ministry is allowing the suspects to communicate with their families and lawyers through its portal.

The ministry is also allowing the suspects to apply for family visits, and conditional release for special circumstances such as deaths and weddings. They can also apply for financial support or compensation, including for medical expenses once they are released.

You probably missed the news that Saudi Arabia met with Putin in Moscow last Sunday.

 

Here's something from the ever informative Moon of Alabama. It relates to the thread, and should be of interest.

It seems that Jordan has joined Egypt and the United Arab Emirates in welcoming the Russian initiative and decided for now to stay out of the conflict. This split with the Wahhabi fraction of the Arab League, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait, will likely widen.​

I read that Kadyrov, probably under Putin's initiative, will start educating Muslim students as to the correct interpretations of Islam...in order to keep them from joining jihadists.

 

so called Novorussiyan leaders in Pictures

 

The Saudis met with Putin in Moscow last week.

 

and???

 

I posted a thread or link yesterday.. Evidently they are going to work together to stop ISIS.

 

LOL!!!

I mean....

LOL!!!!!!

AboveAlpha

 

you must be joking right? Muscovy has never planed to stop IS, i posted an Israeli expert yesterday , have you seen it?

 

nice reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arseny_Pavlov

ps did you read my Israeli link?

 

800 Billion is not a lot of Money for the E.U. and 800 Billion is NOTHING to the U.S. but the U.S. is not owed this money.

The United States can very EASILY collapse the entire Russian Economy in a matter of a few weeks but that is not something we want to do considering we have been spending Billions of Dollars trying to stabilize the Russian Economy since back in the 1990's.

As I have stated the Russian Economy is TINY....VERY TINY in comparison to the U.S. Economy.

The Russian Economy is also fragile and just a matter of a little over production of Oil by the U.S. and Canada and the Russian Economy would collapse.

AboveAlpha

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Not yet...I will check it out.

I got a communique today.

Just GUESS where I might be going soon?

I will give you a hint.

It starts with a U.

AboveAlpha

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=428351&p=1065451333#post1065451333
ps

Muscovite propaganda can be funny too)