A few debunking links

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  1. Scott

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    I think most viewers can see what's going on here.
    http://aquariuschannelings.com/2012...-confessions-of-a-paid-disinformation-poster/
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    A lot of my job was de-railing and spamming threads that didn’t go our way, or making accusations of racism and anti-Semitism.
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  2. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Uh, he's blatantly admitting to not liking Jews. He's tried justifying it all over. I know you're nothing more than a link bot but do try to get it together, or at least pay attention.
     
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    Holston, both previous posts reported as off topic. Religion has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, while it was a driver for 9/11 your justification for being a bias, racists, anti-semite has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
     
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    Do you really think that the evidence supports the conclusion that the gov't allowed 9/11 to happen? For that to be true, the gov't would have to be aware of each AQ cell and know enough of their operational details to disrupt the plot. I dont think that one can objectively conclude from the evidence that the gov't purposely allowed the attacks to take place. Nor do I think that the gov't was aware of what the operational plans and objectives of the AQ cells were. I would certainly agree that there is a significant amount of evidence to indicate that terrorist cells were operational in the US and that the increased activity of terrorist organizations here and abroad was a cause for alarm I think there is little if any evidence which suggests the gov't knowingly permitted the attacks to take place. While I think one could argue that the 9/11 plot could have been unmasked i dont think the evidence indicates that it was. Essentially, the conclusion that 9/11 could jave been discovered vs the conclusion that it was allowed to happen are two very dofferent positions requiring very different standards of proof
     
  5. Scott

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    There is so much clear proof that 9/11 was an inside job...
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144746

    ...that anyone who promotes the theory that terrorists did it and the government let it happen is just trying to muddy the waters to confuse people who are new to the issue.
     
  6. holston

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    http://www.cija.ca/centre-publications/media/a-message-from-consul-general-amir-r-gissin/

    It is taken for granted by the news media, in universities, and all other forms of printed media that white gentile men are conspirators. That is to say, for decades it has been taught ubiquitously, that white gentile men conspire against women, minorities, foreigners, etc, in short, everyone but themselves.

    This message has also been applied to Christians or anyone ascribing to the Christian religion. Catholics in particular have been accused of all sorts of things, from crimes against humanity to singular persecution of the Jews.

    Neither is there any question in the media of whether Arabs and Muslims are constantly conspiring. This is all taken for granted. And why shouldn't it be? The full force of the media has been utilized to ensure that this idea is firmly grounded in everyone's mind. Who hasn't seen some TV thriller in which a crazed enclave of Muslims are plotting to kill someone?


    So why is it that no one finds it conceivable that Israelis or Jews are capable of the same thing despite blatant evidence that they do? Not long ago there was the case of Israeli Mossad using passports and Ids stolen from Europeans in order to assassinate an alleged "terrorist" leader.

    If you click on the link above you can see for yourself an open invitation from Consul General Amir. R. Gissin for Zioinists to post on webs and blogs in defense of Israel.

    It is all well and good for anyone to seek to defend themselves and to try to acquire the things in life which make it bearable. What is NOT good is when people do things in the name of "defense" which could more appropriately be called offensive and go about acquiring the" good things" of life by means which are by no means "good", "moral", or even ethical.

    For some reason, the sect of people who belong to the Jewish cult feel that it is their prerogative to use any means whatsoever in attaining their desires and objectives. I believe that this attitude which pervades the Jewish/Khazar/Ashkenazim/Zionist community at large is the result of a hangover they are experiencing which can be traced to the Talmudic doctrines which they have inherited from their forefathers.


    As I stated previously, it would consume pages and pages to demonstrate all the devious tactics which have been employed against me by my adversaries in order to discredit and silence anything I or others have had to say with regard to 9/11. This could only be because an honest and in depth study of all the facts surrounding 9/11 can not help but reveal the hand of Zionist involvement in it, beginning with the certainty that they had prior knowledge of the attacks.


    I do not consult anyone when I make posts, neither am I consulted. I am not paid a nickel for my time and have no other motive in making these efforts other than to do what I am able in the best interests of myself and others like me. To wit, it is obvious to me what happened on 9/11 and what has occurred as a result. I do not need a list of names in particular. A truly thorough investigation would uncover many of those. The main players are obvious.

    It should also be obvious to anyone with eyes, common sense, and an a modest ability to discern the identities of the proponents of Zionism, what is happening to the US as a result of over a half century of their work which culminated in 9/11 and has been escalating since.

    The bottom line is this. Those people which identify themselves as "Jews" and Zionists recognize themselves whether you do or not. They are just as easily able to apprehend what is happening around them and ascertain what is in their own best interest as I am or you are. They do not need to have every detail spelled out to them and forwarded by some central committee any more than I do.

    That is what you are seeing here; a concerted effort by a few of them who know intuitively that it is in the best interest of US Jews, Israel and Zionism to suppress the truth about 9/11. They are not interested in justice, only the promotion of themselves. This is unfortunate since it reflects a Machiavellian approach to "securing the realm" and getting the things they want out of life. People who embrace this philosophy are highly hypocritical to criticize the disciples of Friedrich Nietzsche or even Hitler.

    To a Christian, the ends are seldom if ever justified by the means. Christ proclaimed Himself to be the truth and the light. His message to the world condemned lying, murder, theft, covetousness, envy, licentiousness, greed, avarice etc etc, all of which are embraced by Talmudic Judaism and promoted by their Hollywood moguls. So it is no wonder that they should attack Christ and attempt to "debunk" even His historical existence anymore than they would try to hide their guilt in mass murder!

    Above you read where one of them has "reported" me for being off topic, when if you examine the previous pages you will find where one of his compatriots first brought the subject up; not the first time either for he has done the same thing on another thread.

    And it is not the first time they have tried to have me banned. They begin by calling me names and using every means they can think of to provoke me, after which they '"report" me if I respond in kind! In this case I ignored their jeering so they try to report me as off topic for responding to one of their own inquiries!!!


    I only mention this for the sake of observers in order to illustrate the methods which they employ in order to suppress the TRUTH. This realization should not startle any believer in Christ since the Jews have been among the foremost opponents of Christ since He walked the earth. It is a travesty that the JUDEO-xtians still allow themselves to be led to their own destruction by these silver tongued devils. How else can I put it?
     
  7. holston

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    I've blatantly admitted that I don't like liars, even if they are Jews. The same thing goes for murderers and thieves.
    You must not have been paying attention when I explained this to you.


    My personal likes or dislikes have no bearing on the truth about 9/11; neither does anyone elses whether they are a Neo Nazi or a card carrying member of the Likud.

    If I asked you whether you hated Palestinians, Arabs, or Muslims what would you say?

    If you admitted that you hate them all regardless wouldn't that be an admission of your own prejudice?

    But if you tried to justify your hate, wouldn't you do so by saying that it is because of the things they do?

    And what would you attribute their undesirable behavior to if it was not for something in their upbringing?

    For there is no way that you can say that you hate them for no other reason than they are Semitic or happen to belong to a different ethnic tribe. If you did so, that would be an admission that YOU are a BIGOT!

    Since you cannot admit that without compromising your own moral justification of your own "hate" then you have little choice but to say that it is because they are Muslims, ie that they are religious adherents of Islam, and that Islamic beliefs conflict with Judaism.

    So what if I say the same thing about Judaism? How does that make my attitude toward you any worse than they of your attitude towards Muslims, or even of Christians?!!?

    The answer is that it can't be. So your argument that I am anti- Semitic collapses. Otherwise you have no excuse for yourself or that of your fellow Jews!

    Judaism by it's very definition is a Supremacist religion. It is by definition opposed to Christ. By the biblical definition it is the "anti-Christ". Sooner or later, all those who claim to be believers in Christ will have to admit this and that it is an error to support a political coalition of people whose religious aim it is to attack and destroy Christianity!

    In a broader since, these religious conflicts are NOT related to the Political spectrum of Jewish influence. The reason why is because many of the foremost leaders which have assumed this identity are NOT Jews at all and do not ascribe to Judaism either! In fact many of them are atheists, Marxists, communists, Secular Humanists, and even self proclaimed Buddhists.

    Perhaps the worst part of this political coalition of Jews are those which hail from the former Soviet Union which are now called the "Russian" mob, but who are in fact a crime syndicate comprised of Khazarian Neo-Bolsheviks who care nothing more about the US than whatever they can pillage from it.


    It's your defense of this last group which sets us most at odds.

    [video=youtube;GSPoq-F6Oyk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSPoq-F6Oyk[/video]
     
  8. plague311

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    Let's make this perfectly clear Holston, you don't post any truth about 9/11. You make (*)(*)(*)(*) up, and the say that it's true. You post anti-semite puke from anti-semite truther websites, and claim it as fact. I refuse to acknowledge your anti-jew bull(*)(*)(*)(*), and that's why I don't bother disputing it. It's nothing more than speculation, conjecture, and lies. It's not worth disputing because you aren't worth disputing. The people who make up the (*)(*)(*)(*) you refer to are the garbage of our society. They live to see their hate breed, they live to see others join in their angst and anger. You've posted about how you're a christian, you refer to biblical passages like they mean (*)(*)(*)(*).

    If you'll excuse me, anti-semite, I have things to do. I'll come back later to read your hate filled rants. They are a little entertaining. I've nominated some of them for awards on different websites. You might even win, the names of your victories might not be gratifying to you, but I'm glad I get to witness it first hand.
     
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    I've shown you time and time again where you blatantly lied. Does this mean you don't like yourself or was this just one more example of your dishonesty and willingness to lie?
     
  10. holston

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    All you've done is lie. That's what I don't like about Jews. Call it "anti-semitism" if you want to.

    [video=youtube;Ga88UyXTvK4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga88UyXTvK4&feature=related[/video]

    [video=youtube;x0K4GY7TK28]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0K4GY7TK28&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
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    [video=youtube;EiY3VMyXNlI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiY3VMyXNlI&feature=related[/video]
     
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    Ok, Anti-Semite. There are Jews that don't lie, and no one believes youtube bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Post something from a real source or quit wasting the time, no one buys it.
     
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    This is a debunking thread. These links are posted to debunk the Zionist claim over Palestine and the claim that they are "God's Chosen People".

    Benjamin Freedman was a "Jew". He was there in the middle of the things he is reporting on.

    And on the contrary, lot's of people are buying it.

    When you think back about what happened from before WWI during the Bolshevik Revolution all the way to what is happening today, it all makes sense in light of what Freedman said.

    [video=youtube;i8T3_HOWB04]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8T3_HOWB04&feature=relmfu[/video]
     
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    You and your B Buddy have called me a liar over and over. I am calling YOU BOTH LIARS!

    Let the reader decide.

    [video=youtube;IRPUTfd8ats]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRPUTfd8ats&feature=relmfu[/video]
     
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    [video=youtube;W6jvJQUxpes]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6jvJQUxpes&feature=relmfu[/video]
     
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    Debunking links for 9/11, which has nothing to do with your Anti-semite bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Post something relevant, who cares that some Jewish kid beat you up all the time when you were a child? Get over it. We get it, you hate Jewish people, we all understand. Do you have any evidence, that isn't anti-semite, that proves that 9/11 was an inside job? Can you answer the questions that I've posed to you?

    How many people were involved? Why aren't you helping KSM get free of his trial? How much thermite did it take? How long did it take to rig the building? It took 4 months and needing to remove the sheetrock for a building only 1/5 it's size.
     
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    When you answer some of the questions I have put to you I will take some of yours seriously.

    According to you, NO thermate was needed, only a few severed columns and some fire. According to you, that was sufficient to bring down, not only towers 1 and 2, but 7 as well.

    You haven't explained how building 6 for example and all the others were so extensively damaged yet failed to collapse, in the manner of controlled demolitions or other wise.

    You haven't explained the sulfidated columns or the pictures of severed columns showing melting BEFORE clean up commenced.
    You haven't explained the molten metal and the red hot steel beams which burst into flames upon contact with the air.
    You haven't explained the high temperatures observed which could not have been the result of office fire alone or jet fuel.
    You haven't explained how the Israeli controlled security allowed the hijackers to pass.
    You haven't explained the photos of the explosion of the Pentagon which show NO PLANE.
    You haven't explained the stand down of NORAD and the multiple failures that occurred.
    You haven't explained all the links between Silverstein, NetanYaHoo, Zakheim, and the rest of the gang, the mentions made in PNAC, the intelligence "failures", the imprisonment of Government whistle blowers, the obstruction of justice, the suicide of the "Washington Madam", the untimely deaths of other witnesses, and the total omission of witness testimony, and crucial evidence, the violation of legal protocol, the evidence of foreknowledge, etc etc
    You haven't explained Barry Jennings testimony.
    You have explained the flurry of put options and the unclaimed profits.
    You haven't explained how so many Scientists, Government officials, Engineers, Architects, Pilots, Firemen, Policemen and other professionals could ALL be STUPID or NUTS, as you would put it.

    None of their words count. But Plaque311 and Prince Lutz Alot know everything!




    One of these days I am going to make a list of all the things that you people can't explain and post it.
    It would be a mile long and take me all night to recall of them.

    For anyone to believe that only a few of these items were all "coincidental" they would have to be a fool.

    Yet that's exactly what the Zionist Jews take us all for, a bunch of PUTZES!


    What DOES explain ALL of these things is the pervasive presence of Zionist Supremacists with Trillions of stolen tax dollars at their disposal, in the highest government and military positions, aided by the intelligencia of the "Russian mob" and the resources of the former Soviet arsenals at their disposal, in tandem with the Zionist control of the media, owned and operated by Neo Bolsheviks.


    I KNOW THAT CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS WERE USED. And I don't need the names of the workers who planted them or a list of their materials or work schedule to figure that out!


    As soon as THE CERTAINTY of this knowledge gets mainlined into the gentile American public, you people are going to be put out of business. And I pray to God to hasten the day.

    The only way you can stop this is to LIE, LIE, and LIE some more and if THAT doesn't work then use the NDAA Act to shoot or imprison all the people who will flood the streets wanting the Zionist Banksters' heads on a silver platter, the same way Solome, daughter of Herodius, (Jews by the way), asked for the head of John the Baptist!


    [video=youtube;xqM_zOs0lsw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqM_zOs0lsw&feature=related[/video]
     
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    Flip open them notebooks, boys.
     
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    why are you threatening him?
     
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    For what? His questions have been answered. Or are you ignoring THOSE facts now as well? :lol:

    So tell us, Jango. Are you now buying what Holston is selling? I ask this because previously you denied being an anti-semite, but it is really hard to take you seriously when you're cheering on the blatant skinheads.
     
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    I'm not cheering anyone on. My comment was in reference to his list that you and company will try to debunk. Hence, open up them notebooks.
     
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    What...?
     
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    I retract it.


    what?

    you mean they ducked out of ALL those questions?

    Yeh its a false paradigm they are trying to start that someone who can plainly see a fraud now has to prove "how they did it", "their shoe size", "hat color toilet paper were they using" etc etc etc when in reality that is a red herring to the issue.

    The only thing anyone need prove is that the government is negligent in their duty, breach of TRUST, breach of FIDUCIARY obligation, and misprision.

    That has been done in spades long time ago!

    If this were a government of the common people, the inhabitants, instead of the People, the government, then this would have been thoroughly investigated with a real investigation long ago.
     
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    Haha I will answer the questions from the way back time machine in 2004, if you are all too incompetent to answer them yourself. That's the list of Woo right there, but like Patriot said, all of those things have been debunked in this very (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thread. You guys just hand waive it away like it's nothing. So I will, once again, waste my time.

    WTC 6 was a smaller, fully concrete reinforced building. If you take a look at the steel portion of the building, you will actually see that the beams are sagging. There it is. Also, building 6 had to be demolished. It had to be pulled over using cables.
    You also haven't provided any evidence of any of this at all. I can't find anything in preliminary research and I'm not investing time researching your bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Provide evidence or shut up.

    You showed one unsourced picture of a crane pulling some metal out of the wtc rubble. Source it, and tell me what this would mean. What would this prove? Thermite doesn't maintain a temperature, and explosives don't heat anything, it breaks it. Show relevance.

    NIST states what the temps are Here
    They weren't abnormally high for an office fire. Once the jet fuel lit everything on fire, it was natural for the temps that were there, nothing out of the ordinary.

    I don't answer bull(*)(*)(*)(*), that's all this is.

    Anyone dumb enough to believe anything other than a plane hit the pentagon just doesn't do research.

    Cause it didn't happen. Your own incredulity not withstanding. There was nothing resembling a stand down at all.
    Provide evidence, from non (*)(*)(*)(*)ing woo websites, no conspiracy bull(*)(*)(*)(*) sites, I mean legitimate statements showing connections and I will address them. When researching this I show no physical evidence, just woo sites making imaginary connections. Provide real evidence, I will provide real debunking. Outside of that, all connections are imaginary.
    Addressed above, here's a full thread with sources. That's why I link to JREF, it might go directly there, but follow the threads. Everything has a source, unlike woo.

    Full debunking of put options. Also, if they're unclaimed profits then who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*)? That means no one decided to claim them at all. Let me know the relevance.

    You haven't explained the millions of people outside of the few that sign that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) AE911 crap that don't believe 9/11 was a conspiracy. This is blatant reverse burden of proof. The collection of very few professionals that believe 9/11 was an inside job are severely out numbered by the legitimate number of professionals that know what happened, and don't subscribe to 9/11 woo. Feel free to list them 1 by 1, and I will list another professional in a relevant field that says 9/11 conspiracy theories are full of (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    That is cheering them on. :lol: More (*)(*)(*)(*) sucking excuses from you.

    BTW, his list was already addressed. His lies could not stand up to the truth any better than your blatant lies could.
     
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