A few debunking links

I like your huge wall of text telling the "onlookers" to ignore all the evidence that we've posted, because that can be misleading. Instead, listen to you and your fun attacks on people. You've now even tried to link to a story on Chris Mohr, and yet you complain of personal attacks. Can you get anything straight?

All of your questions as to the iron rich spheres are in that article. You want to know another good way to get iron rich spheres? Grab a piece of paper, and flick a lighter a few times over it. Guess what falls from the flint? OMG, it's iron rich spheres! Here is everything you will need to know about the spheres. Those are from people with education, and knowledge in the field. It is broken down to it's basics, and explained. If you can't understand it, than that is not my fault. Read as much of that thread as you can handle and I guarantee you'll see just how irrelevant that statement is.

We know that the dust used by harrit et. al. was the same type used in the Millette study because the chemical composition is the same. Like you said, no 2 are exactly the same, but they are proven to both be WTC dust. The only difference is Millette's dust has a chain of custody, and Harrit et. al. really don't. Some dust was gathered from a woman that was there, and kept the dust in California for a few years, just sitting around. Milette has dust that was held in a controlled atmosphere. Link to all the Jews you want, but it won't cover up that you have now openly said your case is based on circumstantial evidence, and mine is based on actual evidence.

 

You can also burn steel wool.
They are generated by subway cars.
They are generated by the construction of steel buildings.
They are generated by torches that cut away debris of a collapsed steel building.
They are generated by fireworks.

I'm sure there are plenty of other ways they can be generated. NYC is a dirty place. That's the truth.

Where's the control in Harrit's experiment? Where's the sample of dust from a control location showing that iron spheres are not common to NY dust?

 

The iron rich spheres were not found in the paint. They were found in the dust. Did you even read the report?

No, and neither did the red gray chips. Harrit had to process the hell out of the chips before he could get any kind of reaction, and even then the reaction wasn't strong enough to do much of anything. It most certainly wasn't as strong as thermite.

 

If the source is bad, you should be able to debunk the source. Instead you whine about the general area being full of Jews. That is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I know it. You know it. So does everyone else. I doubt you could come up with a lamer excuse if you wanted to.

There is no such thing as thermite paint. As soon as you mix thermite with other chemicals like in paint, you prevent the thermite reaction. You can't just rewrite the laws of physics because you're too ignorant to understand them.

That might be good enough for a science fiction story, but here in the real world, thermite cannot be used that way. Period. You're talking out your ass.

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). There you go lying your truther ass off again about the facts. There is NO LEGAL PROTOCOL that demands they test for high explosives. Thermite was never even brought up because thermite is not used in controlled demolitions. The indications of high explosives being used is loud explosions before and during the collapse. These were not heard. High explosives can also be seen on seismic records. No evidence of high explosive charges were seen in the seismic records. High explosives also damage steel in a very specific way. No such damaged steel was found.

You know what evidence retarded truthers have for controlled demolition? Their OPINION that it LOOKED like a controlled demolition. Their opinion isn't worth (*)(*)(*)(*) because it is based on ignorance.

You're right. They didn't look for it because there was no evidence that there was even a need to test. See, normal people aren't delusional psychopaths that see conspiracies behind every event.

Nice try at putting words in my mouth. I am saying quite clearly you can't mix thermite with other material and expect to get a reaction.

So why are you (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about the red and gray chips? Now you're flip flopping and claiming the thermite wasn't in the paint chips.

Wrong yet again, but thanks for proving your initial claims were complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Here you are trying to be an expert on thermite which burns for a very short period of time, yet you want to try and pretend it can either cut or soften steel to the point of failure in seconds while at the same time pretending the NIST didn't allow for enough time for the steel to heat up. You can't even get out of your own way before you destroy your own theories. BTW, three different studies have shown the fires alone were enough to cause failure. Now, unless you want to try and pretend the University of Edinburgh is controlled by those nasty evil Jews, what is your excuse for them coming to the same conclusion as the NIST?

You don't "detonate" thermite. You detonate high explosives, which thermite is most certainly not. You ignite thermite to start a self sustaining chemical reaction.

If they are PhDs, they wouldn't be dumb asses like truthers and think thermite is a good way to bring down a building. There are plenty of very good reasons why thermite is not used, yet you wish to ignore them all in your rabid pursuit of blaming the Jews.

The truth bears repeating, don't you think?

Sure you would. What other way do you have of trying to fight your own personal boogymen?

Except you're not dealing with your opinion. You are making accusations as though they are fact, which they are not.

Since when has blatant racism and bigotry been reduced to being "candid"? Put lipstick on your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) hatred all you want. It doesn't change the stench, does it.

I love it when truthers try to justify their ugliness. It only comes across as sanctimonious bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Then how do you justify your own blatant lies? I've pointed out several of them to you. Or does your sanctimonious bull(*)(*)(*)(*) not apply to you?

More sanctimonious bull(*)(*)(*)(*) trying to justify blind hatred. Doesn't fly.

Do you honestly believe the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you spew? I will never understand the warped and twisted skinhead mentality, but I do know enough about it to pity the fools who have it.

 

The more realistic question to ask is why are they paying so much attention to iron spheres? Iron spheres are not a component of thermite or any of it's derivatives. Iron oxide (a.k.a. rust) is what is needed for a thermite reaction.

 

Well, if you're looking for evidence of a reaction, you look for evidence of the reactants and the products. We would need to look for Fe2O3 + 2 Al → 2 Fe + Al2O3.

Fe2o3 is abundant in nature because of the interesting way that iron oxidizes. Iron's oxide passivization layer can be penetrated slowly by a number of chemical processes that allow the iron to continue to rust. Aluminum, however, has a very thin oxide passivization layer that is almost as hard as diamond. It's far more reactive with oxygen than iron (hence the vigorous energy generated by a thermite reaction) but that reaction is instantly stopped by the formation of the passivization layer and it's very difficult to penetrate that layer. That's why aluminum oxide is less abundant in the environment. If we really were taking an honest approach to this thermite theory, we should be asking ourselves: "Where's the abnormal concentrations of aluminum oxide that were created by a thermite reaction of that magnitude?"

 

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/residues.html



A micrograph published in a USGS report shows iron-rich spheres in the dust produced during the WTC's destruction.

http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/617-faq-7-arent-the-red-gray-chips-identified-in-the-wtc-dust-merely-primer-paint-from-the-wtc-steel-structural-elements.html

This image shows a red-gray chip after it has been partially ignited. The gray iron-rich spherical particles, which were also found in the WTC dust documented by USGS and RJ Lee & Associates, are evidence of a high-temperature chemical reaction


note: The spheres depicted above did NOT originate from a cigarette lighter. Go flick your Bic elsewhere.

It's too bad for you statists that there are scientists working on this who aren't entirely as devoted to ZOG as you are.

It makes the job of snowing the not so Chosen much more difficult doesn't it?

 

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

I guess none of the men mentioned in the above link could pass the JREF muster.

It's a good thing you guys have establishment cover up science experts working for you.

I have to hand it to them. They do an excellent job of it. They just can't seem to stamp out the last embers of resistance though, not even with help from teams like yours. tsk tsk

 

RJ Lee directly refutes truthers beliefs, they state it openly.

About all other thermite junk Thermite wasn't there.

 

The RJ Lee reports confirmed the presence of the iron spheres. It was not their job to look for thermite, only to identify the composition of the dust as it related to the health hazards they posed.

As I recall a governmental agency was reported to have lied, (mislead if you prefer) to the public about the hazards that RJ Lee did find.
If a governmental agency can lie or be mistaken on one point, they might well do the same on another.

Plainly, the people who pulled off a stunt that resulted in the deaths of thousands would have no compunction about lying to cover it up. The people who had the resources available to do this would also use those resources toward that end as well.

There's no reason to presume that one who would be clever enough to preform controlled demolitions would have to be lame in public relations and the generation of public myth.

 

All I see in that post is you trying to connect dots. Like what is posted up above, it's assumption, no evidence to back up anything.

Who? Evidence? Anything? Beuller?

There's no reason to presume anything about what you've said, all you're doing is attempting to connect the dots. There are no dots to connect.

Iron-rich Spheres mean nothing at all, it is completely pointless to even bring them up. They're expected to be there, and there is nothing mischievous about their presence, so we can drop it.

You are close to right, it was reported that initially the air was thought to be safe to breathe. It was retracted later.

 

http://activistnyc.wordpress.com/2008/01/03/he-oughta-know-better-mark-roberts-and-the-iron-rich-spherules/

It is certain that the spheres did not come from cigarette lighters.

 

Likewise, yoose skies claim certain knowledge that the spheres could not have originated from thermite.

In order to rule this possibility out, you must also prove that this was impossible.

Therefore you also are assuming to know their origin since you are cannot to say with certainty what did cause them.

Oh there are lots and lots of dots. Anyone who cares to scan the links I have posted from the beginning of this thread can discover them for themselves. I urge them to rather than simply take my word for it or yours either.

You have not demonstrated from what source they were produced and how the requisite temperatures were reached.

It is known however that such spheres are formed during thermitic reactions.

Until it is shown why this possibility must be ruled out altogether, it remains.

The only way you can do that is to prove what they did come from in no uncertain terms.

You have not been able to do that so the case is still open.


In the meantime there are all those thousands of remaining dots which don't depend on little iron spheres in the least to verify.

After those who made the statements were forced to retract them, such as when Israel was forced to make an admission in the Levon Affair.


It is clear that those who have the greatest reasons to lock shut the case on 9/11 will be those who protest any further investigation the loudest. They will be the ones working the hardest to silence those asking questions and insisting on answers, especially those who rely mostly upon personal attacks.

It's pretty clear to me who those people are, judging by some of the names they have called me and others.

Like any common criminal they will persist in their denials right to the bitter end regardless.

 

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/10/explosive-evidence-wtc-was-too-hot.html

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/11/collapse-of-twin-towers-couldnt-have.html

Underground pressure also does not explain how all the little iron spheres being produced by the high temperatures escaped and went far and wide. The dust was produced as the building collapsed before any heat treatment due to under ground heat could have occurred.

 

I'm not speaking for Holston here, but there is a lot of evidence pointing to the government allowing 9/11 to happen through inaction, policy, "intelligence failure", intelligence failure, foreign policy, and administration. If you've done your homework you'd know this. Our media has actually reported quite a bit about the holes, some of them glaring. Foreign media has been helpful too. Declassified government documents have shed a ton of light on the event of 9/11. Have you seen all of the publicly viewable 9/11 related documents? What conclusion do you come to?

 

Some people in very high places have tried to deny that our unconditional support of Israel, particularly with respect to Palestine, had anything to do with the attack or anything that followed.

As far back as the Patricia Hearst kidnapping I don't recall ever having made the connection myself between "the Palestinian Liberation Organization" and the air plane hijackings occurring around the same period, to the State of Israel and their occupation of Palestine.

Of course I was a mere child at the time so I didn't think about those things. But it is noteworthy that there is no reason why I should have made the connection anyway since no mention of the connection between US/Israeli policy and Palestine was ever made in the news.

So the news media itself is as guilty of denying the connection between the attacks of 9/11 and those which preceded it as George Bush was of saying they were because Muslims "hated our freedom" and Condeleeza Rice saying as well that no one in that administration could have imagined such an attack.

When prominent spokesmen are discovered to have lied to the public about one thing, then is the public to be blamed for having doubts about other things they are being told?


And who are these government representatives speaking in behalf of? The people?
Given the lack of response that the government has given with regard to the boarder issues and taxes, I dare say not!

So who are they speaking in behalf of? My guess is that they are speaking for the lobbies and other powerful people who ensured their elections and in whose hands their future prospects lie. Is this an unreasonable assumption?

Therefore if you want to know which parties would like to create the disconnect between US/Israeli policy and our trouble with the Arab speaking world just consider the sources. Who is it that pulls the strings of our "elected representatives"?

One place to get a clue about this is to check to see who the largest campaign contributors are. They are usually the folks who have the most money and the biggest reasons for wanting to influence politicians and legislators.

So who are these people? Could they belong to the same class of people who pushed for "immigration reform" (open boarders), the "Patriot" Act, the Expatriation Act, The National Defense Authorization Act, the sanctioning of torture as a legal means of interrogating prisoners, "Hate Speech" Laws, internet censorship, who authorized Quantitative Easing UNLIMITED, who want to dissolve the US and Mexican boarders and establish a global currency under the auspices of the World Bank and the Globalist financiers, and who authorized that other thingy that gives the Prez control over EVERYTHING from food to the air we breath?

Could it be THOSE PEOPLE?!

Hey. Maybe little iron balls aren't really what we should all be focusing on.

Maybe we ought to consider who would have the resources and motives to pull the 9/11 stunt off.

Bin Laden is dead. And so are the alleged hijackers. But what pray tell has changed? Have you seen any improvement in the way things have been going or the direction in which "our leaders" are steering us?

Can we honestly blame EVERYTHING on the Muslims??? I don't think so!

Don't get me wrong. I don't think the Muslims are the only ones who would like to take over the US or rule the world.

I think there is another group of people who are already well entrenched within the governing establishments of the US who would like as much to do the same thing. Only they are in a much better position to achieve their goal of world domination.

Wouldn't it be great to live in a world in which you personally belonged to a select minority who had first dibs on the best of everything while everyone else was expected or required to grovel at your feet?

I think those people might have very compelling reasons to want to defend the status quo. It is the present establishment which is calling the shots, the same establishment which would like to sweep 9/11 under the rug.

 

http://911blogger.com/news/2012-09-08/letter-regarding-redgray-chip-analyses

You suggest that you would like to ignite the red material in an inert atmosphere, which is not a bad idea but there are caveats. Dr Farrer of our team contacted one of the LLNL scientists about this issue, and was informed that the LLNL tests of nano-thermite were performed in air; which is why we did our tests in air also. Thus, we could make direct comparisons with the LLNL data on nano-thermite fabricated at the LLNL laboratory.

 

I see you posting a lot of information about "if they are looking at the same material." I already said, Dr. Millette has a source of custody for his dust, tricky dicky and steven jones do not have a source of custody. However, I think you're splitting hairs, mostly because you're cherry picking your quotes.

Anyway, Another breakdown of the dust. And another debunking of the Jones pathetic report.

Did you know that no one that was in the study even knew how to run the machinery they were using? I bet you didn't, some of them weren't even scientists. Some of them that were claimed to be scientists were just lab managers, or other lab reps. Pay close attention to sunstealer, R. Mackey, and Oystein. They've written white papers, and other documentation confirming the information in the Millette report.

 

The people who pulled this stunt off have plenty of PhD power to pull off a snow job too.

I wouldn't trust the Zionist press or a Zionist scientist for the time of day.

Even without Jones and Harrit their is enough circumstantial evidence to merit an HONEST investigation.

In the first place, the original investigation was anything but honest. The sheer volume of suspicious circumstances surrounding 9/11 alone is enough to make anyone with a brain to question what really happened. In fact, it's enough to make anyone with a brain realize that this affair stinks to high heaven and has Zionist fingerprints all over it. If
the pin heads at JFEF were as honest as they claim everyone in the Truth movement is stupid, they would admit that.

But what do they do? They go on and on with their la ti da as if we are all supposed to forget everything that led up to 9/11 and everything that has happened since then just to hear them pontificate on the pros and cons of which of them knows better than anyone else.

The Zionist "leaders" (usurpers) may have the resources to con the masses on just about anything, but as far as I am concerned they have zero credibility.

 

[video=youtube;MlbN2GEYW9w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlbN2GEYW9w&feature=relmfu[/video]

Jeff Gates on the Criminal State 1

 

hmm just like the official "story" supporters on the boards!

 

[video=youtube;YDsHWL5Gk0I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDsHWL5Gk0I&feature=related[/video]

This video was made before the Petraeus scandal.

The woman that was at the center of the "scandal" is a Jew.

Her lawyer belongs to the same group that represented Monica Lewinsky, also a Jew.



Jill Kelly



More "coincidence"?


Some say that only Arabs and "good ol' boys" are capable of conspiring.

This presupposes that Zionist intelligence is never proactive, or shall we say, preemptive.

 

isreal is a british proxy, same as puerto rico regarding the federal reserve!

small world.

 

[video=youtube;VY0f-1-9daI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY0f-1-9daI&feature=relmfu[/video]
[video=youtube;1WG7SBvlRLw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WG7SBvlRLw&feature=relmfu[/video]

Koko, these people are not interested in meaningful dialogue. They don't even care if they make any sense.
You can see for your self how sloppy they get about it at times. If you pointed out all the inconsistencies it would take all day. That would serve their purpose well, because their only purpose is cover it up.

[video=youtube;j0ku65SRm_g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0ku65SRm_g&feature=relmfu[/video]

 

So much projection. You're Jewish, aren't you?