A few debunking links

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  1. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Your turn, quit running. Answer the questions. I have taken the time to address all of your bull(*)(*)(*)(*), 8 year old conspiracy theories. I have provided sources, that lead to even more sources that provide a full debunking of everything you have stated. I know you are going to hand wave most of it away and I don't really care.

    However, I answered yours, now you answer mine.

    How many people were involved? Why aren't you helping KSM get free of his trial? How much thermite did it take? How long did it take to rig the building? It took 4 months and needing to remove the sheetrock for a building only 1/5 it's size. Why didn't any evidence of thermite show up in the dust? How did the thermite survive the plane impacts and subsequent fires? Why wouldn't the government just use planes?
     
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    You mean that he gets encouraged by my remarks? Well I can't stop that from happening, but I can assure you that I am not encouraging of anti-Semitism.
     
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    So a known, proven anti-semite gets encouraged by your encouragement, but you want to pretend that isn't encouraging anti-semitism when he is baselessly blaming 9/11 on the Jews? BWAAAAHHAHAHA!!!! Keep dreaming, Jango. By cheering on the bigots and the racists, you label yourself a bigot and a racist as well, especially when you are cheering on activities with a specific bigotted slant.
     
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    All Plaque and Prince Lulz Alot can do is attempt to create plausible deniability.

    They are simply denying things and hoping that a reader will accept their word based on their accusations of "anti-semitism" and jeers.

    They pretend they have not been shown the evidence and hope the uninformed reader will not search for it themselves.

    There is no doubt that Zionists were responsible for planting the charges/incendiaries. They were the only ones with the motive and the means. That's why these internet Sayanim bring the charge of "anti-semitism".

    http://criminalstate.com/tag/sayanim/

    When the lid blows off this thing, Israel will most likely no longer be accepted as an allie.
    They will finally have succeeded in destroying the last friend and benefactor they have on the planet and will have no one but themselves to blame.


    Christianity eschews the principles integral to Talmudism which are inherently Supremacist and embrace lying, murder, and theft as acceptable means in achieving goals.

    http://criminalstate.com/2009/08/how-israel-wages-war-in-plain-sight/


     
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    [video=youtube;-2xi_ZNkz1g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2xi_ZNkz1g&feature=related[/video]
     
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    http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20100413_israel_911.htm

    You can see for yourself how US and Israeli Jews react to anyone who expresses opposition to their will OR their actions, including not only acts of espionage against the US, but MURDER of US citizens as well, NOT just Iraqis or Afghans!
     
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    Wow, so after all of that and you actually ignored all of it. What does that say about you and your movement? I honestly provide links to legitimate information regarding the questions you ask about 9/11. In the face of that you hand wave all of it away, don't answer a single questions, and re-post your anti-semite garbage. All of this after you, earlier, said that the reader should "decide for themselves." I'd say that the people telling the truth are pretty forthcoming, and you seem to be dancing around a bit. Plausible deniability? I outright answered your questions with the resources provided. You immediately went back to anti-semite and woo websites.

    So let's have it Jango? You told me to "break out my notebook", and I did. I answered all of the questions and so far you and your "camp" have answered none. None of you have the balls, ability or knowledge to answer any of my questions. I guess we know who is really telling the truth don't we?

    Holston, I answered everything you said I wouldn't, and gave descriptions for everything you said I couldn't. Put up or shut up. You consistently running, posting anti-semite bull(*)(*)(*)(*), and hand waving away all of the answers proves you to be the snake oil salesman you're really trying to be.

    That's why you and your ilk are not considered to be a threat, that's why your "movement" is considered garbage. The laughing stock of any community, and proving to be the tin foil hatters you appear to be.

    Good work guys, way to show your real colors in the face of the evidence.
     
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    I am not "simply denying" anything, you are simply evading the facts and making up your own. I don't expect people to take my word on anything, I have stated this time and again. That's why I source my comments (from non woo websites), and request that people read the information presented. You are blatantly lying, again, and you've commented on what you think about liars. I believe in the exact opposite you claim I believe, and I have the posting history to confirm it. I hope people search for themselves, I hope they chase down every claim you guys make, and come to their own conclusion. That is why I post in response to everything, non anti-semite, with sources and fact.

    You're partially right, there is no doubt because it's been proven absolutely false. We know that by Millette's independent study. Which is what truthers are asking for, right? Not to mention, you seem to be able to point the finger pretty well, but you are completely unable to tell how it was done. How did they plant the thermite? How much did it take? These are basic questions you should be able to answer.

    *snip anti-semite video*



    When? It's been over a decade now and the truth movement (and you're anti-semite movement) have made absolutely no progress at all. None.

    Yeah, you're a real Christian accusing people you have no evidence of, using racial slurs, and being derogatory to Jews. That's what your faith encourages?

    Why can't you answer the questions? I destroyed your little list, and you've provided nothing contesting any of the questions I've posed. Why are you running? You say plausible deniability, but isn't that proven by the fact that you won't answer any of my questions?
     
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    Plaque and Prince Lutz Alot are just liars plain and simple. They have been accusing me of the very thing they are most guilty of themselves. The reader now has no alternative but to examine the evidence for himself in order to determine who the real liars are. I urge them to do so.

    Engaging these disingenuous Hasbarats is like Br'ar Rabbit smacking the tar baby. You just get stuck.


    What are Mossad agents doing on the scene celebrating the terrorist attacks before it's even been announced that they were no accidents?

    Nearby you also have Israeli agents being arrested for having a van full of explosives in a van with a picture painted on the side of a plane flying into the WTC buildings. Now THAT's Chutzbah, STUPID, but Chutzbah nevertheless.

    (Jews love rubbing it in goys face every chance they get. Have you noticed? If not, just pay attention when you watch TV as to who gets type cast as the dunce. Most people can tell when a joke is a joke and when their is a malicious undertone to it. Fewer people know how to spot a Khazar Ashkenazim half breed. There appearance is not always so apparent as say for example, Jimmy Kimmel, Tom Cruze or Sarah Silverman.)


    Here's another little brag (in yo face) by Plaque:

    The Zionist coalition has such a strangle hold over the Goy Congress and the Goy populace are either so ignorant or complacent, that the Jews and their offspring know they can practically get away with murder.

    This situation has resulted due to two reasons basically.

    Number one is that "anti-semitism" in the US is a myth. The Jew factions know this so they have to manufacture "anti-semitism" in order to maintain their "anti-semitic" cudgel that they use to brow beat critics.

    Number two is because most goy in the US wouldn't recognize a Jew if one slapped them in the face, which they frequently do. The Goy are just too unawares to realize that they themselves are the butt of the jokes. I'm sure this makes the sport more delicious to the Zionists. It helps them to reenforce the sense of superiority that they what to convince themselves they have over everyone else.

    Basically, the so called Jews and crypto Jews run things because they have been allowed to.

    All this might change if everyone of Anglo-Saxon decent would take as much pride in themselves as the Jews take in themselves, or even that blacks take in themselves. But decades of media conditioning that has taught them that self respect and self defense is "UnChristian" has practically shackled the white Christian masses even though the constraints are purely mental and could easily be broken with a little knowledge. This knowledge is what people like Plaque and Prince Lutz Alot want to prevent. Jews like being in charge and are prone to attack anyone who threatens to upset their apple cart.



    We have documented historical events such as the attack on the USS Liberty, the Levon Affair, the Beirut Bombing of the Marine barracks the Mossad knew of in advance yet failed to warn of which all illustrate Israel's willingness to deceive her "allies" and sacrifice her "allies" lives.

    This is not to mention the espionage that has been conducted against the US from the Rosenbergs to Jonathon Pollard done on behalf of Jewish Bolshevism. How many of these instances do Americans need before they realize that Israel is NOT an allie of the US and NEITHER are the duel citizen Jews that occupy positions in government! That would take up the largest share of key positions under the Bush administration in which the 9/11 attacks took place.


    It's common sense folks. WE HAVE BEEN PLAYED FOR PUTZES! The enemy within the gate is Jewish Zionism!


    You can see for yourself how US and Israeli Jews react to anyone who expresses opposition to their will OR their actions, including not only acts of espionage against the US, but MURDER of US citizens as well, NOT just Iraqis or Afghans!

    Some of you may ask, "What can be done about this?"

    I have a few suggestions.

    Learn everything you can about 9/11. DO NOT FORGET IT! It is serving as the basis for constant war fare that the US is engaged in which is helping the Jewish Federal Reserve bleed this country to death.

    Do NOT support the Jewish movie industry, porn industry, communications gadgets industry, or liquor industry!!!

    Learn to recognize who these people are!

    Do not allow them to alter the History books to defame the founders of the Constitutional form of government.

    Demand an IMPARTIAL investigation of 9/11, ie one that is Jew free or anyone taking bribes from them.

    Demand an FBI crack down on "Russian" organized crime.

    Campaign to END THE FEDERAL RESERVE and the fiat money system.

    Demand IMMIGRATION REFORM, ie "reform" that means a reversal of immigration laws prior to the Jewish tampering of the 1960s, and strict ENFORCEMENT of ALL LAWS INCLUDING DEPORTATION!

    Boycott any and all Israeli products.

    END ALL AID to ISRAEL, ESPECIALLY MILITARY AID!


    Watch no more TV than is necessary to stay abreast of all the liberties they are taking in moving this country towards further degeneracy.

    When Jews, whether atheist, secular humanist, or Orthodox start attacking prayer in schools, in public, and Christian symbolism in any form, including holidays such as Christmas and Easter, TELL THEM TO GO TO HELL ,sooner rather than later! They're headed there anyway.


    YOU INSIST ON "ANTI-SEMITISM". YOU GOT IT!
     
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    I wish to include the following links as aids to help debunk the OFFICIAL (Kosher) CONSPIRACY THEORY.
    First it may help to realize that the OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY, (the one that bears the Kosher Seal of Approval) has never been proven!


    http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/analysis/anomalies.html


    http://911review.com/means/index.html

    http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/analysis/scenario404.html

    One can imagine many variations on the same theme.


    I'm cannot entirely agree that a large number of people could not keep such a conspiracy concealed.

    There were a large number of men that landed on D-Day, very few of which had any idea of when and where the assault would take place.

    Also, there has already been a number of "leaks" in the conspirators plans about 9/11. The number of doubting Thomases, whistle blowers, and witnesses bear testimony to this fact. There are also a large number of people in Congress and in the news media which have all been complicit in suppressing revelations about 9/11 and complicit in achieving it's ultimate goal, perpetual war in the Mid-East in behalf of world wide Jewish hegemony. Most of these employees are mere dupes.
    Many more go along with the plan because, as Plaque has so graciously pointed out, there is nothing we can do about it!

    IN YO' FACE STUPID GOYIM! You big dumb Golem.
     
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    Wow, you've really got the time machine at full power don't you? The Dancing Israelis meme along with all the other garbage lies you've been spouting. Sorry, anti-semite. Swing and a miss again!!! Anything sweet 2002 meme you want to bring to the forefront? Maybe black smoke means the fire is dying? Any others?

    Also, once again, we see absolutely no sourcing for your rant, no actual facts. Just a bunch of anti-semite garbage.
    There you Jango, for the second time he's come out and said he's an anti-semite. You say you don't support anti-semitism, but you definitely don't challenge his posts like you do others.
     
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    I would like to conclude that I will provide you with a few links to a webpage that talks about how things might have happened, maybe, possibly, perhaps, but we don't have any actual evidence. We don't actually even say anything, it's more of a "we don't know because everyone was in on it, and the technology (despite being over a decade ago) is still way advanced to our current standards."

    Get real.
     
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    I don't challenge his posts because I largely don't read them. He doesn't source his material, but when he does, it comes from overwhelmingly non-reliable sites and sources, as well hour long Youtube videos that I don't watch. Besides, I know that it doesn't matter what I have to say or what I present to him, he will continue to do his thing unabated. This one will eventually hang himself and get banned. Though I recommend that the mods are made aware that subject matter slated for the Zionist Agenda forum is regularly being spewed in the 9/11 forum.
     
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    Yet you cheer him on? What kind of disingenuous troll cheers on someone and doesn't even read what the person posted?

    So tell us again why you cheer him on.

    Yet you think this is something that should be cheered?

    That is usually the fate of the irrational hater.

    Meh. Haters are going to hate no matter which forum you put them in. Since his rants are vaguely related to 9/11, and since this still keeps his hate speech out of the general forum, I am betting they will keep his posts where they are.

    Which brings me back to the question of why do you cheer him on? Is it just because he is against the official theory and thus the enemy of my enemies is my friend? That is great as long as you're not too concerned about your own integrity.
     
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    I have actually reported a few of his posts for being off topic, and having nothing to do with 9/11. The mods, despite having time to close a thread in this sub forum, don't appear to really want to do anything. Although, I am not too concerned about anyone actually reading everything he posts. I can only make it through a few sentences.
     
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    I don't cheer him on. I'd actually prefer it if he stopped posting in this section. That is, if he is unable to drop the anti-Semitism. See, I don't like racism. Though I am a moderate, my heart bleeds for those that have been subjugated or disqualified for an idiotic reason.
     
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    Don't worry. I don't need "cheering on". I think what I think. I believe what I believe. And I know what I know.

    The evidence that indicates that controlled demolitions were used in bringing down the WTC buildings is overwhelming and The evidence that Zionist parties played the central and deciding roles in seeing the plan through is equally abundant.

    The problem is that people do not want to admit to this fact because they know full well the repercussions that will follow. So they prefer to keep their mouths shut knowing full well that the Zionist coalition is leading this country down the path to it's own destruction.

    I am not shy about saying this and this is why Heckle and Jeckle have been relentless in their efforts to cover up the links I post and attack me personally in hopes that they can either intimidate me to cease, or better yet to cause me to denounce what I believe to be true.

    This is no different than the way these people assail anyone who reveals the evidence that has been suppressed or expresses their personal convictions that controlled demolitions were used. The reason that they get attacked more often by Zionist Jews is because Zionist Jews KNOW already who the only parties were that had the means and the motive.


    When odds approach something like a million to one in favor of something, that is close enough to certainty to satisfy me.

    I cannot swear by some intimate knowledge of the solar system that the sun will "rise" tomorrow. I can't contrive a philosophical argument that dispels all notions of solipsism either. But for all practical purposes I don't need to.

    In the case of 9/11 we have everything but pictures of the chicken hanging from the jaws of the fox. And still people are required to just take the foxes word that he had nothing to do with it.

    In case you are one of the people who have technical problems with the expression "insider job" perhaps this will help.

    I think it is likely that some Arabs hatched a plot to drive planes into the towers. This stands to reason since they would have ample reasons to. Mossad agents on the "inside" of those networks learned of the plan. From there, word was passed up the chain of command until the right people developed a counter plot. They justified their actions because of the Palestinian resistance which is a thorn in their side and a huge impediment to their plans.

    Since the Arabs concocted the scheme, the Zionist round table considered themselves innocent of wrong doing when they committed certain sins of omission. Lots of people rationalize questionable actions this way. How can "inaction", as was the case of the Mossad failure to inform the US of the impending bombing of the Marine barracks, be classified as an "action".
    Jews, by their own admission, do not ascribe to Christian doctrines, one of which goes like this, "To him that knows to do a thing which is good and does it not, to him it is sin."

    The sin of omission in this case required only minor tweaking in order to further justify leaving the doors of opportunity open to the patsies all the way down the line. And so what if they helped things a little along the way? Lee Harvey Oswald was such a dupe.



    As to the charge of "racism", I have addressed this many times. By your own admission you have not read it. So here it is again briefly paraphrased.

    I am no more of a "racist" or an "anti-semite" than these so called "Jews" are bigoted and "anti-gentile".

    In the first place, many of these Jews deny that "Jewish" even denotes race! If they are correct then I cannot by their own definition be a "racist", as even you put it.

    In the event that they shift the definition of "Jewish", as they are wont to do, to mean a religion only, then I cannot emphasize enough that the very foundation of Judaism rests on the Supremacist premise that only "Jews" are God's CHOSEN People, and therefore are worthy of all praise, adoration, and service by all non-Jews.

    What an attitude. I agree, they certainly have one. A colossal one!


    The bottom line is this, in case you have failed to catch it.

    It does not matter what you say to one of these Jewish Supremacists. If they don't like it they will always play the "anti-semite" card no matter what just as surely as Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton play the "race card"..

    If a white gentile Anglo-Saxon male is capable of such a thing, then COMMON SENSE ought to tell you that SO IS THE REST OF THE WORLD, and ESPECIALLY someone who ascribes to a religion which espouses it's superiority by some alleged edict of God Almighty.

    If YOU are fool enough to fall for that trick then you need to have that knife removed from your brain.

    But don't expect me to "bleed at the heart" for these sharp tongued arrogant know it alls just because they demand it or because they repeatedly go whining to the moderators like a couple of little school yard snitches to have me banned for TELLING THE TRUTH.

    They speak as though nothing less than a signed, certified, and notarized sworn statement from some infallible, inerrant fool proof source of information will do. They never tell us just who these absolutely trustworthy sources are. Maybe it's the CIA or the Mossad. Would they ever be guilty of pulling a fast one? gasp!
    And all the while, what are THEIR sources?=> The atheist Jew pin heads from JREF and the mainstream JEWISH media, part of which might as well include the bogus NIST report that is hardly worth the paper it's written on!

    I suggest that THEIR word is no better than mine, and neither are their sources.

    I wouldn't trust a Jew as far as I could throw him. Show me an honest one and I will!

    http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/blasting_scenario.html
    To say that the validity of all evidence supporting the controlled demolition hypothesis depends on giving a complete detailed account of how, and by whom every aspect of it was carried out is absurd to on the face of it. What's obvious is that murder was committed and NO ONE has ever been brought to trial for it, let alone proven to be guilty.


    There is no discussing the matter with these Zio Cabalist defenders. They are not interested in the truth. They only want to bury it.

    Anyone who does not roll over and play dead they say cannot be a "Christian", at least not by their definition; Because a "Christian" by their definition does. But that is their definition. It is more appropriate to those JUDEO-xtians who cater to their wishes (one of which is being called an anti-semite or racist), cower at their criticisms, accept their bribes, and serve their purposes.

    If you want to be a "Christian" by the Judaic definition, then you must pay deference to the will of the spiritual heirs of the Sanhedrin Pharisees that had Christ arrested and executed on trumped up charges; because their attitude hasn't changed a whit in over 2000 years!

    People who tremble before the God of Political Correctness worship a false God indeed!
     
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    I'm well-aware that all people are equally capable of doing good, indifferent, or bad things. I've heard stories just about as long as I can remember on the variety of experiences people go through as they live their lives. I view the Drudge website daily, and a person can get a good grasp on the deprivation of our fellow brothers and sisters. One can easily see that there is a line in the sand which separates good and bad and that certain portions of our society habitually cross into the 'bad' more regularly than others. When describing these individuals a person can either speak gracefully or in extremes. You can think all of racial slurs you want, but when entering discourse, the usage will only ruin your attempt at getting across a message. Nevertheless, even when a person has been diplomatic in his language, and the message is true, discourse can still be denied simply because the reader or listener does not want, among other things, accept the painful truth or has a goal of defense.
     
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    And you and your friends can make all the "you are a racist" slurs at me that you want, and that doesn't alter the facts about 9/11 one bit.

    You must have over looked the way these magpies have been addressing me since the beginning.

    Aside from that, you seem to have the erroneous idea that to refer to a group of people collectively as Jewish or Zionist is somehow "racist" when the instance in question is not flattering.

    The Jewish intellects and social engineers have somehow escaped this criticism during decades of them pointing out everything that is wrong with the White Anglo Saxon Protestant "establishments". Do you need a list of instances for example or will you take my word for it?

    It seems to me that what can be sauce for the goose can be sauce for the gander.

    Feel free to point out to me all the cases where any generalizations I have made when using the term for Jews collectively hasn't been justified. That's what they call themselves isn't it? Am I not allowed to use the term as well since they apply it to themselves? Or is it racist of you and others to refer to the 19 hijackers as Arabs or to the nation of Islam as Muslims?


    The central point of my previous post was that when these people can not think of a less obvious way to discredit or silence someone who says anything they disapprove of regarding members of their own tribe, they invariably whip out the "anti-semite" card, and no amount of protest can deter them or shield oneself from this sort of attack.

    Plaque and Prince Lulz Alot have insisted this to be the case with me, so I merely have allowed them to have it their way. You can have it yours as well.

    If you think that making slurs is a bad thing then don't make them. I reserve the right to slur people who have slurred me.

    Oh what the heck. Here's an example of what one Jewish woman has to say about the superiority of Jewish racism.

    http://www.jewishmag.com/167mag/chosen_people/chosen_people.htm

    And this woman repeatedly calls white people who had rather not be forced to have to tolerate "her royal purpleness" as "white supremacists".

    If I take a dislike for someone or even a collection of people, there is always a reason for it, and it generally emanates from them. If they want to call this distaste for theft by usury , sleight of hand, practice of discrimination against non Jews, granting oneself a religious right to lie and cheat, and calling oneself "superior" by an oracle of God, "anti-semitism"
    then let them. I've made it clear enough what it is I don't like about them, and they ignore what I've said, choosing rather to attack me personally.

    The subject of 9/11 is quite independent of their disdain for me. I see nothing wrong in letting them know that the feeling is mutual.
     
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    Like I have I have said, if it is truthful criticism, and is sourced to what I have been taught to accept, then it is not anti-Semitism - it is the truth. Opponents of the Truth Movement but avid supporters of Israel have a natural conflict with the notion of the truth sometimes I have found. Religious conservatives will have a tendency to defend both more than other people. It boils down to belief structures and point-of-views. What you're raised up, lived, and carry with you today beliefs. And that stems from what you're taught, exposed to, lectured at, and enlightened with at those young pivotal years. The problem is, that I have come to find, there is a lot of protectionism when it comes to telling the younger generations history and government and economics. There is a lot of sanitization of reality. The whole truth is not revealed for most people until they've gone to college or took it upon themselves to explore new areas of intellectual pursuit by research. Some people stay in the loop by staying up on the news, though there are pros and cons of all versions of the media, and that is running the spectrum of possibilities. The same pros and cons mentality applies to all things. And that's because we're human. We're fallible. Very fallible. And all of the other nasty things that we have done to one another throughout the years... it is truly remarkable that we still exist today. It does not appear as though there is much time before Iran is attacked. The end result of 9/11 foreign policy and potentially something that could widen up into a bigger worldwide conflict, which seems to be an indicator with China. The story and foreign policy on 9/11 will come to pass as our government shifts focus to new threats. They've already said they're going to keep 10-15,000 troops in Afghanistan post-2014. But we too already know that we're shifting to what? Yeah. The grand chessboard indeed.
     
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    In any murder investigation, one focuses first on the people close to the scene and those who had both means, motive, and opportunity. The facts of how Larry Silverstein and company came into possession of the buildings, the fact that all the key players involved in this transaction are Zionists, including the head of the Port Authority who OK'd the transaction, the fact of Silverstein's close relation to NetanYahoo, the fact that many of the people involved even belonged to the Likud or had relations who were members of the Irgund, the fact that Israelis controlled security at the air-ports where the hijackers boarded, the fact that Mossad operatives were arrested celebrating and filming the event, operating from a moving company which was a Mossad front and that vans containing explosives and other Mossad operatives were arrested near the scene, the fact that similar vans were seen arriving at odd hours in the morning and departing before business hours, the fact that Israelis and the company of Zionist Jews that bought the Trade Centers whose estimated renovation costs exceeded the worth of the property, ALL had the means, the motive, and the equally important were the ONLY parties who had the opportunity to plant them, are ALL evidence which point directly at Zionist Jews from the US and Israel as viable suspects.

    And all of the above is just for starters. One could also point to Israel's track record for such cloak and dagger false flag operations, and the fact that they have LIED about these events until it became impossible for them to lie any longer, are further evidence of a conspiracy in which they were involved.

    The forensic evidence was quickly dispatched to China by trucks that were standing ready to go, some of these belonging to ORGANIZED CRIME in NYC, the greatest syndicate of which is "Russian" (Jewish). All this was done against standard protocol and was illegal. Some engineers and investigators on the scene protested to no avail. Giuliani's right hand spokesman the NYC police chief was himself sent to prison for racketeering, who incidentally had previously served as a security chief for Arab dignitaries AND who was also the same cop who is credited for having found the unscathed paper passports which belonged to one of the Arab hijackers which somehow must have magically escaped from his pockets in a fire which totally decimated his remains!


    All this and much much more point directly towards a Zionist Cabal!

    To mention these INDISPUTABLE FACTS as indicators of a ZIONIST conspiracy is NOT in the least bit "anti-semitic".

    However, any dumb a$$ can see the implications, including ordinary Jews who have been trained from birth to consider any sins they commit against goyim justifiable, who occupy privileged positions as a result of favoritism shown to Jews in this country, who are steeped in Holocaust lore, and whose religious core belief causes them to seek to establish a center from which the long awaited Messiah may rule the world as per their interpretation of Old Testament scripture.


    If calling attention to the innumerable instances which implicate Jewish involvement in 9/11 is "racist" because it is "anti-Semitic", then it is even MORE "racist" and "anti-semitic" to accuse the entire Muslim world of a crime that only a few were even alleged to have committed, especially since those Arabs are arguably more Semitic than the so called "Jews" who falsely claim they have a birth right to someone elses homeland.



    [video=youtube;FWn8QNQWSsY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWn8QNQWSsY&feature=related[/video]


    Watch this video of the destruction of some hard drives by commercially available thermite and think about the resemblance of it to the molten metal seen pouring from a critical corner column of one of the WTC buildings prior to collapse.

    [video=youtube;a7Kn3phALkY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Kn3phALkY[/video]

    Note that neither of these instances display the color of molten aluminum.


    De Bunkos claim that there's nothing suspicious about the appearance of it!

    Would you stand still and allow someone to deliberately pi$$ down your leg?

    How often has this phenomenon been observed in high rise fires?

    ..........in conjunction with NUMEROUS extemporaneous EXPLOSIONS?!

    And how often have all these events been observed to occur concurrently with the complete symmetric collapse of steel framed buildings that burned no more than 2 hours at the most?

    And De Bunkos want people to ignore it all........................UNBELIEVABLE!



    De Bunkos want proof they say. Yet they have no proof whatsoever to back up any of their theories as to what was responsible for any of these events, only a long series of possible ways to explain them away which they themselves have contrived.


    So what do they do?

    They do everything they can to draw attention away from them all, to bog down the discussion with nit picking details, and to reduce the debate to a sh!t slinging contest which THEY INITIATE and THEN go onto blame on me and others who refuse to eat their garbage, INCLUDING all their BS about "anti-Semitism", which is nothing more than another lame attempt to divert attention and smear the messenger.


    Now let the tattle tales run to the moderators and try to have me banned for saying it.
     
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    No, in a murder investigation they follow evidence. You can think someone committed a crime all you want, you can accuse them of committing a crime all you want, but unless there is evidence to support it your case is dismissed. No judge will hear it, hence your movements situation. Also, I've debunked everything you said in this paragraph in my previous posts. You just rehash them with no regard, like nothing was said. You disregard the fact that Larry Silverstein didn't make (*)(*)(*)(*) off of the insurance, or purchasing of the buildings. He had to pay for the land the entire time he was rebuilding, he lost millions on the WTC disaster. I debunked the dancing Israelis in a heartbeat, the most miniscule research took care of that. Vans\delivery trucks arriving and leaving in the middle of the night, really? There were restaurants in the building that required fresh food daily, there were 218 floors of businesses that needed supplies, machinery to maintain the buildings, and countless other things required to run 2 110 story buildings. The towers were in the middle of the busiest city in the United States of America, early in the morning (3a.m.- 6 a.m.) are the best times to deliver anything. That's not even a debunking, that's just straight up common sense. They also deliver at those hours to your local wal-mart, or grocery store.

    Oh good...more.

    No source or corroboration.

    It wasn't dispatched quickly. You're lying again.


    None of it's true, so you're conjecture is still just conjecture.

    Yes it is, because it's all lies. I just proved that above.

    I definitely think there is a dumbass, no doubts there at all.

    You don't implicate with any evidence, you just say (*)(*)(*)(*) and expect everyone to buy it. You say you source all your hate, but I don't see (*)(*)(*)(*). It wasn't our homeland, by the way, not sure if you have any knowledge of history. It appears you obviously don't, but this land had people here when the white man landed on it. We took it upon ourselves to conquer those that lived here, bring over slaves, and put the natives on little pieces of land that we designated for them. Your incompetence is overwhelming.

    Yes, watch it, and realize that it took POUNDS to go through a hard drive. It had to be contained, and it was out in the open. The flash of light was blinding, and it's the most ridiculous way to demo a building ever. Then think about the fact that there was no thermite residue found in the dust at all.

    Common misconception is that explosions mean explosives, several things blow up in fires. Especially in a building with multiple floors of mechanical equipment. Not just light bulbs, generators, transformers, etc. I will say I don't know what is coming out of the window, personally I would say it's a transformer blowing or wiring frying out. That is conjecture on my part, I won't claim it as fact.

    You forgot to mention a slight game changer, there were two giant 757 planes that crashed into each tower at 450+ miles an hour. Building 7 burned for 6+ hours by the way, it wasn't 2 hours.

    What's unbelievable is the fact that after this entire post you offer no evidence yourself, yet point the finger at "de bunkos". I have done nothing but post sources and evidence to what I claim. I have done as Jango has requested and used multiple news sources instead of the NIST report. I don't know how else to hand you the information.
    So what do they do?

    Haha I am not nit picking details, I am asking basic questions. They are questions that you should have answers too if you are accusing people of heinous crimes. Questions you can't answer, because you don't have evidence.

    I don't want you banned, you're my main source of entertainment. I want your off topic posts moved to where they belong, the other conspiracy threads. You're an anti-semite that blames 9/11 on the Jews. Little of what you post is actually related to 9/11. Banned? No. On topic? Yes.
     
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    The evidence IS there. I know your not blind, just dishonest. The Jew owned media has chosen to cover it up and ignore it, just like you, and for the reasons I have stated.

    The title of this thread is "A few debunking links". It's the official Kosherized version of 9/11 that needs to be debunked.

    In fact, it HAS been debunked. The reason that nothing has been done about it is for the same reason that someone like Meyer Lansky or Al Capone never went to the electric chair. People either don't know what's going on or they don't care.

    Driving home the media talking head was spreading more Judaized propaganda about the recent Gaza murders.

    As usual the neo-Bolshevik spokesman was trying to pin the blame on Yomamma the same way that Bush was used as the whipping boy for 9/11. The murdered diplomat in Gaza was just another Goy fed to the dogs to whip up more support for Zionist imperialism. If there weren't enough Muslims and mid eastern people who would love to kill Americans it isn't as though it would be hard to find a bunch of destitute morons over there to do their bidding for a few bucks. I wonder how much of the "missing" trillions went to fund the "Arab Spring".

    I have to remind myself how many of the apostles were martyred. To an atheist, like a modern Saducee, or a Secular Humanist that would mark the end of it.

    I have a suggestion, rather than constantly trying to belittle me for handing everyone the information that I have received from others, why don't you just address the content of the information itself.
    Rather than constantly saying "Where's the evidence?" why don't you try debunking the evidence you've been given.
    If you have a case against it, it would be much more convincing to show it rather than ignore it in preference to casting insults at me or simply ignoring it by making the FALSE claim that you have "debunked" it.

    You haven't debunked a thing and you know it.

    You also haven't proven a single one of your cockamamie theories that attempt to explain everything away.

     
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    Sorry, too long to fit. You're wrong about who found the passport as well. It wasn't the chief.

    I show absolutely no record at all of Rudy's police chief being arrested for anything at all. Provide a source.
     
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    Are you delusional? That's all I do is attack the content of your posts. Are you reading the same thing everyone else is reading? What did my last post say? I directly attack the claims you make, and I refute them with sourced information that provides the reader (though there isn't the audience you imagine) the opportunity to confirm the information themselves. Instead of attacking the sources and the debunking of your material, you attack me. I haven't ignored any of it. I quoted and debunked step by step what you said. You can't even answer basic preliminary questions that I have about your conspiracy. Instead of providing the truth you do nothing but post anti-semite garbage. I think you're confused. Debunk what I say Holston, take what I say and prove me wrong.

    You said investigations follow the money or the benefactor, I said they follow the evidence. Just because you say something doesn't mean it's true.

    You said the steel was moved illegally, I provided a source stating that you are wrong.

    You said the mayor's chief of police found the passport, and later was charged with a crime. I showed that a police officer didn't even find the passport, it was given to him by a passerby. It was later given to the FBI.

    You showed a hard drive melting. I stated there was no thermite found in the dust, it was confirmed by an independent, non government lab.

    Who is avoiding who?
     
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