A Light Hearted Look at the Flotus Vol IX

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  1. Xyce

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    Well said.
     
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  2. Xyce

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    Reputation to whom? Reputation to those who admire academic integrity? Or reputation to those in power--specifically, to a Democrat US Senator who was a US Senator of the state in which the school resides for decades, not to mention the Democrat Party, which might want to turn off any governmental money supply that they might be getting? You can't necessarily have both. I think given the circumstances in which she got her degree, including the quality of her dissertation, points us in the direction that she really did not earn it.
     
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    Does that mean that you can’t have academic integrity and government money? Do you have to “sell” degrees to connected students with who lack ability to do the work to honestly achieve the degree?
    You are possibly right . Academic integrity and university ethics are a pretty dream that we used to have. I know that cheating is rampant in universities in my country.
     
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    Certainly, you can--in the abstract. But in this particular context, no. If they did not give Jill Biden her doctorate, they are putting their inflow of government money supply in jeopardy. As far as the reputation of academic integrity, there are other things that are far more harmful to the reputation of universities than giving one lady a doctorate. For example, affirmative action many times over is much more harmful than given Jill Biden a degree. Given that, they are not going to risk not given Jill Biden a degree when there is nothing to gain and much to lose if they piss off her husband, who is now the president.
     
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    That’s pretty cynical. If you will sell a degree, what’s to stop a rich kid getting someone to write his essays, or using the computer to generate a prize winning piece of work. If you are willing to overlook cheating then the product of your university is a bit suss isn’t it?
    Doesn’t affirmative action just apply to admissions?
     
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    Surely if Jill Biden just wanted to be able to put Dr before her name she could have pulled strings to get a university to give her an honorary doctorate. Why bother to go to all the trouble of actually earning one by completing a course?
    I smell a bit of partisan envy here.
     
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    The First lady uses her degree. She is a teacher at a community college. I don't think they'd retain her unless she were competent at the work. I'd say the degree was earned.
     
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    I think that would be too on the nose of corruption. She hasn't done anything to earn an honorary degree. Her brain-dead husband, although brain-dead, could arguably get an honorary degree, considering his decades in the US Senate and being a Vice President. I think she wanted people--stupid people--to think she actually earned it, so a facade was created for her to play pretend, but those paying a modicum of attention and who have at least half a brain and look at it from a nonpartisan standpoint can see it clear as day.

    Those poor kids getting an inferior education.

    The point of affirmation action has to do with reputation. These institutions do not really care about their reputation, considering that they don't admit based purely on merit. Also, there are other things besides affirmative action, like legacy students and those from powerful families. Hell, George Bush went to Yale, and that guy is dumber than a bag of rocks. Any prestige to their name is the hanging on of the coatails of what they once were, not what they are now.
     
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    To quote the previous incumbent “Sad”.
     
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    Again, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't retain her if she couldn't do the work. She has the credentials that say she can do the work. Do you know different? Cite your proof.
     
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    Sad, yes.

    But still...

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    I’m surprised that universities don’t care about their reputations.
    It’s a point of pride in my country.
     
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    It happened recently and what also happened is that those who used that service got contacted later by the assignment writers threatening to “out” them if they did not pay and pay and pay. It is called blackmail and believe me, the students were made aware of the risk
     
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    Honorary degrees are a long standing tradition in universities across the globe - usually though there is a reason foe awarding it - sounds like you have not done your research on this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Humane_Letters

    In fact she has several honorary doctorates dating back to 2009
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_honors_received_by_Jill_Biden
     
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    She has several honorary doctorates
     
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    Well, we're not in your country then.

    This is what Yale has come to:



    I highly doubt any of those students deserved to be in Yale; more likely than not, they got they by their race. None of them appear highly intelligent enough to be in the rarefied field of intelligence that gets you into Yale. Bush got in because of legacy preference and his family's political influence. Chuck Schumer has two kids, both of them went to Harvard because he's in the US Senate and he was a Harvard graduate, too.



    You people are blinded by your partisanship. You conveniently dismiss circumstances in which she got her degree: the fact that her husband was a US Senator of Delaware, and Jill got her degree from the University of Delaware; the fact that her husband is a Democrat, and the folks in higher education are largely Democrats; the fact that her dissertation is littered with grammatical, punctuation, mathematical, and logical errors, and it strains credulity that a student without the same name recognition could turn in that same paper and not be laughed out the room, much less get a doctorate out of it; and also--let's not forget-- the fact that her husband said that the only reason why she went for the doctorate was purely for vanity: she wanted to be called Dr. Biden, not Mrs. Biden.
     
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    You are accusing other people of being partisan?
     
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    Why, yes--yes, I dare say--I believe I am.
     
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    Tucker “investigates”? Tucker?

    The man born with a spoon so silver that not one speck of black could ever tarnish it? The man who went to elite schools funded by his father?

    Now tell me why paying huge amounts for your kids to get an education, putting them ahead of more diligent and hard working students - how that is not a form of “affirmative action”
     
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    Heavens to Betsy Mr Pot!
     
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    I really like our 1st and 2nd families. It's nice to have an Administration that is actually doing positive things.


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    And they are nice people who don’t make you cringe when they meet other world leaders.
     
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    Jill is 20 years older. Looks great. Nothing you say will take away her Doctorate.

    I guess, though, Melania does appeal to a certain type of guy who loves augmentation (polite word for 'fake' - just like her smile).

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    She looks very different doesn’t she?
     
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    Like what? Low protein meals for school lunches? Wow! AMAZING accomplishment!
     
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