A Mask Mandate is NOT a law

You seem to be ignoring a lot of what I said about that.

...its still there.

 

The mask has to contain whats coming out of those holes. If theres huge gaps, such as with a loosely worn bandana, there is no meaningful containment or reduction in vapor spread.

And again, as I already demonstrated, even the CDC cautions that re-using masks without proper decontamination can itself be substantial risk of disease spread.

Would you care to take a stab at why we are being mandated to wear masks but we're not being mandated for them to fit properly or be properly sanitized?

 

I've shown you evidence that even a "loosely worn bandana" cuts the distance of a cough from 12 feet to 3.5 feet...and that even a home made cloth mask cuts it down to mere inches...and you keep saying the same ****.

Just stop

 

That was not a 'loosely worn' bandana. It was tight fitted. Its visible wrapped snug to the wearers face in the image you provided.

That is not how people are wearing bandanas.

And again, as I already demonstrated, even the CDC cautions that re-using masks without proper decontamination can itself be substantial risk of disease spread.

Would you care to take a stab at why we are being mandated to wear masks but we're not being mandated for them to fit properly or be properly sanitized between uses?

 

in case you failed to notice, sarcasm alert

 

Because people like you don't understand proper mask procedures.....that is not an argument for not wearing them.

 

All true but the issue is government mandate and consequences not company policies.

 

Completely misconstrued. What I fight for is people to have choice. To or not to wear a mask. And again, the solution is simple. If you feel you are that vulnerable to the virus, don’t go out. It’s treat simple. And you might research on the amount of recoveries while you’re inside as well. What your emotionally driven assertion doesn’t get is just because I don’t wear a mask, doesn’t mean I’m guaranteed to infect someone.

If anything, a mask keeps your body from properly exerting the carbon dioxide that comes with exhaling breath. Your oxygen level actually falls when you wear a mask, so there’s a reason in itself not to wear a mask. To maintain healthy oxygen levels. You know what would keep those droplets from spreading? Covering your mouth and nose with your arm when you cough or sneeze. If the droplets get anywhere, the only victim is your shirt.

The people who actually are dangerous are the people pushing a one sided view of society, and that is the pro-mask crowd, not the anti-mask crowd. You don’t see the anti-mask crowd weaponing the media to drill their ideal view of society into people’s heads, while mixing in fear and never mentioning people recovering from the virus.

I’m not the one who is dangerous, there’s a higher likelihood it is yourself.

 

At the same time, over a million Americans have recovered. Over 3 million have recovered globally, and those numbers still outpace the amount of deaths. Tell me, how many out of 150,000 of those dead Americans were in nursing homes or a hospice? I know it isn’t fashionable to talk about the recoveries and only talk about the deaths, but so far the numbers suggest you have a higher chance of recovering from Coronavirus than you do dying from it.

 

Risk is a part of life. If we al acted like hypochondriacs, life would never be lived.

More have fully recovered from COVID than died. Remember that.

 

That type of dismissive comment says a lot about a person's character.
-fini-

 

Would you care to take a stab at why we're being mandated to wear masks but we're not being mandated for them to fit properly or be properly sanitized between uses?

 

Speaking of the efficacy of masks, consider this: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/jon-rappoport/dear-humans-face-masks-dont-work/

There is no proof that masks stop the spread of such virus. Common sense says they should, but in this particular case, common sense comes up short.

This goes back to tests done beginning in 1946 up to present day.

 

Mhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm.
Here a recent study by a German University, its in German, but the pictures in the link show how the aerosol gets spreaded, from no mask to Cotton Mask to N95, face shield and so on.
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/rhein-m...o-am-besten-gegen-corona-wirken-16869948.html.

I have jet to see a science study, which shows, that masks will not reduce aerosol spread, any kind of mask.

 

CO2 really, I mean realllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Were did you get that nonsense from.

you are the person I called the cops on today. Masks are mandatory now in a business, had a couple from Texas, we are flooded by Texans, They walked in despite the signs without a mask.
My employee asked them to put on a mask or leave They went ballistic, insulted my employee, so I got out of my office.
The next thing the guy yelled at me, we did not come for this f... sh..... I reminded him its Colorado law, he said I don't give a sh...., I asked him and his wife to leave, he told me he would punch me out. I went into the office, 911, the cops came, removed the idiots, cited them for trespassing, besides the trespassing fee, they will get $395 in court fees, if they do not show up in court, they have a warrant.
All that about a $10 Kisser Sweater for 10 minutes, reaaaaalllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

They ran away from Texas, because the shiit is hitting the fan there and are afraid of being in a hot spot.
The Covid Haulers and because of them, read the Governors announcement, we have now mandatory mask laws in businesses and they fight us over it.
They ?
Go home to your infested state, Texas, Arizona, Georgia, leave us alone Covid Haulers, or behave, or meet our cops and than our judges.
Please Wotan let some brain cells rain on those people

 

And those ideals might work well when everything is going smoothly. Try a world war or a global pandemic though, and it will doom you fast.

 

America is ****ed.

PS: Just how stupid do you need to be, to not get that the Texas they ran from is like it is because people like themselves refuse to give a damn? Infinitely stupid, would be my estimate.

 

RETIRED SURGEON Sam Laucks

I have spent the past 39 years working in the field of surgery. For a significant part of that time, I have worn a mask. I have worked with hundreds (probably thousands) of colleagues during those years, who have also worn masks. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from lack of oxygen. Not a single one of us became ill, passed out or died from breathing too much carbon dioxide. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from rebreathing a little of our own exhaled air. Let’s begin here by putting those scare tactics to rest!

(It is true that some people, with advanced lung diseases, may be so fragile that a mask could make their already-tenuous breathing more difficult. If your lungs are that bad, you probably shouldn’t be going out in public at the present time anyway; the consequences if you are exposed to Covid-19 would likely be devastating.)

~ “But”, you ask, “can’t viruses go right through the mask, because they are so small?” (“Masks keep viruses out just as well as a chain link fence keeps mosquitoes out,” some tell us.) It is true that individual virus particles can pass through the pores of a mask; however, viruses don’t move on their own. They do not fly across the room like a mosquito, wiggle through your mask like a worm, or fly up your nose like a gnat. The virus is essentially nothing more than a tiny blob of genetic material. Covid-19 travels in a CARRIER – the carrier is a fluid droplet- fluid droplets that you expel when you cough, sneeze, sing, laugh, talk or simply exhale. Most of your fluid droplets will be stopped from entering the air in the room if you are wearing a mask. Wearing a mask is a very efficient way to protect others if you are carrying the virus (even if you don’t know that you are infected). In addition, if someone else’s fluid droplets happen to land on your mask, many of them will not pass through. This gives the wearer some additional protection, too. But, the main reason to wear a mask is to PROTECT OTHERS. Even if you don’t care about yourself, wear your mask to protect your neighbors, co-workers and friends!

~ A mask is certainly not 100% protective. However, it appears that the severity of Covid-19 infection is at least partially “dose-dependent.” In other words, the more virus particles that enter your body, the sicker you are likely to become. Why not decrease that volume if you can? “What have you got to lose?!”

~ “But doesn’t a requirement or a request to wear a mask violate my constitutional rights?” You’re also not allowed to go into the grocery store if you are not wearing pants. You can’t yell “fire” in the Produce Department. You’re not allowed to urinate on the floor in the Frozen Food Section. Do you object to those restrictions? Rules, established for the common good, are component of a civilized society.

~ “But aren’t masks uncomfortable?” Some would say that underwear or shoes can be uncomfortable, but we still wear them. (Actually, being on a ventilator is pretty darned uncomfortable, too!) Are masks really so bad that you can’t tolerate them, even if they will help keep others healthy?

~ “But won’t people think I’m a snowflake or a wimp if I wear a mask?” I hope you have enough self-confidence to overcome that.

~ “But won’t I look stupid if I wear a mask?” I’ve decided not to dignify that question with an answer!!

~ “But I never get sick; I’m not worried.” Well, then, wear a mask for the sake of the rest of us who are not so perfect!

There is good evidence that masks make a real difference in diminishing the transmission of Covid-19. Please, for the sake of others (and for the sake of yourself), wear your mask when in public. It won’t kill you!

P.S. - And, by the way, please be sure that BOTH your nose and mouth are covered!

Recommendations around mask usage are confusing. The science isn't. Evidence shows that masks are extremely effective to slow the coronavirus and may be the best tool available right now to fight it.”

 

So, that would be yet another 'no' to "Would you care to take a stab at why we are being mandated to wear masks but we're not being mandated for them to fit properly or be properly sanitized?"

 

Yes, your body exhales CO2. And that CO2 has to go somewhere. It's no different than the bodily waste your body produces. It's a no-brainer that your oxygen level falls with a mask on because your body properly can't exhale, and the mask causes a reduced oxygen intake. It's why you can feel slightly lightheaded as well. This "nonsense" is basic understanding of the human body.

And officers have bigger fish to fry than people wearing masks. If these people had guns, or were threatening to bomb your place, THEN you would have a valid reason to call 911. But you pulled a Karen, when the officer could have been using his/her time in a productive manner. So really, the only Karen in your situation was you. A normal person would have just let the people get what they came in for and get out. Out of sight, out of mind. But you made it into a bigger deal than it had to be.

Luckily I read that not all counties in Colorado will enforce the authoritarian wishes of that fruit loop you have in office. I went to a local car wash yesterday and washed my car then vacuumed it. Without a mask. Were you going to call the cops on me then, Karen? I saw other customers mask-less as well. How about them? Not everyone wants to buy into an authoritarian version of a utopia. It's because of people like yourself that I have to shift all my shopping to being online.

 

I've seen that meme. It's really the opposite.

Masks are not on the same level as seat belts, smoke alarms, life vests or helmets. This attempt to normalize mask usage in America is scary to anyone who values personal freedom. The Veruca Salts here are indeed the people that call cops on mask-less individuals, the people on this forum that you can easily tell there's fear embedded within their posts when they try to shove their pro-mask ideology down your throat, the people who stand up for individual freedoms, willing to take the fines to stand up for what it right, are truly the selfless individuals here, the Braveheart's. If you don't like the idea of individual freedom, take your authoritarian ideology being shoved on people like me to a country that has dictators for elected officials.

 

Once again, science pummels "feel facts."

 

Here's a fact for you.

At least 1.8 million Americans have recovered from COVID. And the recoveries keep coming as the cases keep coming. What does that prove? Whatever virus COVID is presenting obviously is being knocked into oblivion by our immune systems. The statistic is proof that COVID is also not a virus that is a life or death situation.

 

Unless, of course, you are one of the 140,000+ (and counting by over 1,000 per day) Americans who have died from it.