A Mask Mandate is NOT a law

Oh well please, Wotan let some intelligence rain.
Somebody tell s me he punches me out, today I have enough brain, to just walk to the office and call the cops, which I pay, to do exactly that, come and arrest the idiot.
20 years ago I would have told that idiot, go ahead and than put him in the hospital for a long time. 911 is so much easier, less trouble.
You get younger you learn it, use your tax money properly. That's what cops are for

CO2, are you kidding me, you truly believe that crap, reaaaaaaalllly, honestly ?

 

NONE of that is true.

WEAR YOUR ****ING MASK do we can end this thing

 

Here's the thing you don't seem to get.

Government officials are not Kings. They do not just get to pull a new law out of their ass and declare it enforceable. There's a legislative process that must occur before a proposal becomes a law, and "orders" from Governors, Mayors, County Commissioners, or any single person are no more legally relevant than you ordering people to wear masks on an anomalous internet forum. Even Presidents.

Until that process happens, I'll wear a mask, or NOT, depending on whether or not I damn well feel like it. I'm so sick of mask shaming, most ESPECIALLY from the media, that I'm on the verge of needing medication just to not vomit every time I hear or read it.

 

SCOTUS disagrees. See Jacobson v Massachusetts.

The Court held that "in every well ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand" and that "[r]eal liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others."

 

I'll put that in the same drawer with 'just wear a ****ing condom' statement.

 

'K

 

And can you enforce the wearing of a condom? Socially ostracize people who reproduce without consideration of the effect on other people?

 

No, but SCOTUS has ruled that the government CAN enforce public health measures.

 

It sounds like you didn't read the article from Lew Rockwell. Those analyses show that they cannot establish that masks stop the spread of infectious conditions like flu.

 

Then stay the hell away from me...because YOU are likely one of the superspreaders that keep this horror going

 

Did you read a single word I wrote? And I mean that with all sincerity. This type of response from the upper caps alone tells me instantly it was fear driven.

It is scientifically proven masks reduce your bodies oxygen levels. And the explanation is quite simple. Masks reduce the amount of oxygen you inhale, and don’t allow your body to properly dispose the CO2 it naturally exhales, unless it has a vent like the N95a, which even then doesn’t do much to reduce the lack of oxygen intake. Simple anatomy.

And again, the issue isn’t wearing the mask as much as it is the voluntary push by the far left to tread on the people that want to make decisions for themselves like all adults, instead of having the nation be one big nanny and police state.

 

Why would irresponsible procreation not be considered a public health matter?

 

Deflection fail. Mask wearing is directly on point, and there is a SCOTUS precedent already in place.

Besides, if irresponsible procreation is such a problem, why is the GOP so gung-ho to restrict access to birth control and abortion?

 

No, no, NO.

RETIRED SURGEON Sam Laucks

I have spent the past 39 years working in the field of surgery. For a significant part of that time, I have worn a mask. I have worked with hundreds (probably thousands) of colleagues during those years, who have also worn masks. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from lack of oxygen. Not a single one of us became ill, passed out or died from breathing too much carbon dioxide. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from rebreathing a little of our own exhaled air. Let’s begin here by putting those scare tactics to rest!

(It is true that some people, with advanced lung diseases, may be so fragile that a mask could make their already-tenuous breathing more difficult. If your lungs are that bad, you probably shouldn’t be going out in public at the present time anyway; the consequences if you are exposed to Covid-19 would likely be devastating.)

~ “But”, you ask, “can’t viruses go right through the mask, because they are so small?” (“Masks keep viruses out just as well as a chain link fence keeps mosquitoes out,” some tell us.) It is true that individual virus particles can pass through the pores of a mask; however, viruses don’t move on their own. They do not fly across the room like a mosquito, wiggle through your mask like a worm, or fly up your nose like a gnat. The virus is essentially nothing more than a tiny blob of genetic material. Covid-19 travels in a CARRIER – the carrier is a fluid droplet- fluid droplets that you expel when you cough, sneeze, sing, laugh, talk or simply exhale. Most of your fluid droplets will be stopped from entering the air in the room if you are wearing a mask. Wearing a mask is a very efficient way to protect others if you are carrying the virus (even if you don’t know that you are infected). In addition, if someone else’s fluid droplets happen to land on your mask, many of them will not pass through. This gives the wearer some additional protection, too. But, the main reason to wear a mask is to PROTECT OTHERS. Even if you don’t care about yourself, wear your mask to protect your neighbors, co-workers and friends!

~ A mask is certainly not 100% protective. However, it appears that the severity of Covid-19 infection is at least partially “dose-dependent.” In other words, the more virus particles that enter your body, the sicker you are likely to become. Why not decrease that volume if you can? “What have you got to lose?!”

~ “But doesn’t a requirement or a request to wear a mask violate my constitutional rights?” You’re also not allowed to go into the grocery store if you are not wearing pants. You can’t yell “fire” in the Produce Department. You’re not allowed to urinate on the floor in the Frozen Food Section. Do you object to those restrictions? Rules, established for the common good, are component of a civilized society.

~ “But aren’t masks uncomfortable?” Some would say that underwear or shoes can be uncomfortable, but we still wear them. (Actually, being on a ventilator is pretty darned uncomfortable, too!) Are masks really so bad that you can’t tolerate them, even if they will help keep others healthy?

~ “But won’t people think I’m a snowflake or a wimp if I wear a mask?” I hope you have enough self-confidence to overcome that.

~ “But won’t I look stupid if I wear a mask?” I’ve decided not to dignify that question with an answer!!

~ “But I never get sick; I’m not worried.” Well, then, wear a mask for the sake of the rest of us who are not so perfect!

There is good evidence that masks make a real difference in diminishing the transmission of Covid-19. Please, for the sake of others (and for the sake of yourself), wear your mask when in public. It won’t kill you!

P.S. - And, by the way, please be sure that BOTH your nose and mouth are covered!

Recommendations around mask usage are confusing. The science isn't. Evidence shows that masks are extremely effective to slow the coronavirus and may be the best tool available right now to fight it.”

 

Not a deflection, a parallel.

If the SCOTUS ruling addresses 'public health safety', how widely would that be interpreted when people who ARE wearing masks, are getting sick?

I have no attachment to the GOP, but I'll guess it has to do with the preservation of innocent life.

 

Please, at least allow the people who do not agree with you and the links you post, to have read your links and opinion.
You know that is the base of a half ars educated discussion, you read the opinion and the links and than you answer, with your own link and opinion, or conclusion.

If you want to be half ars taken to be serious by me, do not question if I have read a link you posted, to which I responded.

My links provides info that yours might be wrong.

Show me that mine is wrong and yours is right.

Can you ?

 

Oppression: the state of being subject to unjust treatment or control.

Is it not oppression when you're not allowed to go to a Catholic Mass, as granted by the constitution, but somehow you can riot over Black Lives Matter by the hundreds in one place? Is it not oppression to turn the entire country into a nanny or police state? Both sound like unjust control. Inconvenience is being stuck in traffic. It's a sad day for America when so many Americans seem to be okay with oppressive authoritarianism running amok in the country, tinkering wit tyranny.

 

Here's the thing you don't seem to get ...

Global Pandemic. All your delicacies and niceties are out the window.

 

Global Pandemic neither suspends nor eliminates the Constitution.

 

The Construction is not a suicide pact.

 

No, it boils down to interpretation of data, even presuming that said data is accurate.

I am a cynical bastard, and so I am most skeptical of government pronouncements, especially when facts contradict them.

By reading the article I linked to, it's very likely that you are the rare individual around here.

The face mask controversy is an emotional controversy in the end. Yes, common sense says that wearing a mask is better than doing nothing at all, but given the little bit of data available, both pro and con, common sense might fail.

Emotional controversies tend to ignore empirical evidence, pro or con.

This is a scam, and so emotions rule.

 

A threat is one thing. Calling cops over a mask is a waste of time and resources. Again, you should have just let them enter, tell your employee to let them go, get what they need, and leave as a responsible manager. Exercise some common sense.

 

That is a rather funny reply.