Abortion- "It is her body!" But is it?

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  1. Crcata

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    Both are life, so very much the same. As I already objectively pointed out.
     
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    So is a cow. So is a sperm. You murderer.
     
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    More strawmen and false equivalency lol
     
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    Hey you started the false equivalency. Cows feel pain, joy even love. You could go your whole life and never eat meat and be fine. Murderer
     
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    My point exactly .. comprehensive sex education follows along the lines of -

    Teaches that sexuality is a natural, normal, healthy part of life

    Teaches that abstinence from sexual intercourse is the most effective method of preventing unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV

    Provides values-based education and offers students the opportunity to explore and define their individual values as well as the values of their families and communities

    Includes a wide variety of sexuality related topics, such as human development, relationships, interpersonal skills, sexual expression, sexual health, and society and culture

    Includes accurate, factual information on abortion, masturbation, and sexual orientation

    Provides positive messages about sexuality and sexual expression, including the benefits of abstinence

    Teaches that proper use of latex condoms, along with water-based lubricants, can greatly reduce, but not eliminate, the risk of unintended pregnancy and of infection with sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) including HIV

    Teaches that consistent use of modern methods of contraception can greatly reduce a couple's risk for unintended pregnancy

    Includes accurate medical information about STDs, including HIV; teaches that individuals can avoid STDs

    Teaches that religious values can play an important role in an individual's decisions about sexual expression; offers students the opportunity to explore their own and their family's religious values

    Teaches that a woman faced with an unintended pregnancy has options: carrying the pregnancy to term and raising the baby, or carrying the pregnancy to term and placing the baby for adoption, or ending the pregnancy with an abortion.

    and of course in the process attempt to render millions of years of evolution .. pointless.

    Free at source is what I meant.

    Neither of the things I stated interfere with your body or bedroom .. on the other hand forcing a person to remain pregnant certainly IS the state interfering with your body.
     
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    I have done no such thing.

    Meanwhile you try to justify murder with multiple false equivallents, and equate them to murdering babies.

    Its something I have come to expect of murderers however.
     
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    Well you are one so I guess you know one when you see one. Lol
     
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    More strawmen lol.
     
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    You haven't even detailed your "logic and reason", all we have seen is your repeated assertion that it is based on logic and reason.

    What are your strict principles of validity relating to your logic, what are your explanation, or justification for your reason?
     
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    You have a house of straw. Lol
     
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    The fact you cannot see the logic and reason, is a testament to your lack of critical thinking. That is not something I can help you with.
     
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    Only in your illusion masquerading as reality.

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    Plainly I have .. your wilful denial only makes you ignorant.
     
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    Funny I guess.

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    Your purposeful attempt to disregard objective truth when confronting you, despite the reason and logic behind it makes you ignorant. If you paid any attention, you would have seen that you self defense argument is illogical.
     
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    Pure BS yet again .. please do some actual research instead of browsing the pro-life sites and simply repeating what you have seen. .. I know that is the easy way for you but it just makes you look ignorant.

    You seem to think by repeating "Objectively" that people will think you know what you are talking about, shame it is plain to see you haven't a clue.

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    nope, nothing more than a premise based on assumption and bias
     
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    You should take your own advice

    its not bs. Its factual. But im sure you truly feel like you are justified in murder. Humans have been doing it for centuries.
     
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    thankfully it is and never will be your decision to make, objectively it is not murder, no matter how many times you vomit that lie.
     
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    It is objectively murder. YOu are just as bad for supporting murder.

    You may choose to vomit nonsense, but the objective truth that is supported by logic and reason still defeats your bias views.
     
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    nope it was not .. it was as much for pleasure as anything else.

    Perhaps you can show me the definition where the bolt on "only about reproduction." is shown?

    sorry I don't guess.
     
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    Not only do I support it abortion should be paid for by tax dollars just like getting a tooth pulled. I know...I know....I'm a murderer.....something we have in common
     
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    Yes you are a murderer, but no we do not have it in common. Only in your false equivalence
     
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    Then murder away. I say the same thing when peta says it.
     
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    According to Psychology Today it is not only about sex. There are some cases that are only about sex and some cases that are only about a man who thinks he has the right to override the woman's choice (i.e. power/control), and a lot of cases that involve a mix of those motivators:
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/is-rape-about-control-or-sex
     
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    I have no doubt that you do.
     
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    You, peta....it matters not to me or anyone else
     
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    Yes true we can't have everything we want, if we could trolls like you wouldn't exist.

    :roflol: love it, author makes anal comment about critical thinking and then doesn't even know what a murderer is ... classic troll.
     
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