Abortion- "It is her body!" But is it?

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  1. Crcata

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    The argument of self defense has already been shown to be completely illogical and a strawman.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    as you have already established you don't have a clue what objective truth is then yes it is just opinion and a biased one at that.
     
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    Except you havent, because you are wrong.
     
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    Tell you what then let another person be connected to you without your consent for nine months, I mean it is only nine months that you lose the right to decide who, what, where and when another person uses your body and they could live upwards of 80 years in most cases.
     
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    Which is an obligation you accept by engaging in sexual activity therefore you cannot claim it is self defense. WHich makes it murder. Objectively. You are simply wrong lol.
     
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    Absolute BS based on nothing other than the biased presumption formulated by yourself without an ounce of objective truth.
     
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    Nope logic is on my side....well me and the rest of the planet. Lol

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    She can flush that brain dead parasite any time she wants for any reason she wants
     
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    Its objective fact.

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    Logic is clearly not on your side as I have given you an argument you simply cannot defeat.

    Yes she can, and its called murder.
     
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    Not in this country. Lol
     
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    Which does not matter. Slavery used to be ok in this country to. lol

    Logic and reason are what matters. And yours simply does not hold up to reality.

    It is still objectively murder, regardless of the laws stance on the subject.
     
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    If only the number of people wanting to adopt came even close to the number of unwanted children .. it doesn't, and even if they did have the people wanting to adopt, by what right does any person have to force another person to bend to their desires based on little more than a want to control others. women are not breeding chambers whose job is to satisfy the desires of others.

    I would agree ... but . .regardless of the relationship status of the woman it should remain her decision.
     
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    Then they should not get pregnat if they do not wish to endure the birth of a child. But to kill the baby because of their selfishness...

    its called murder.
     
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    The vast majority do

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    I would suggest learning the definition of words . .but it would be a waste of time.
     
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    Yeah, it is true that zealous and brainwashed puritzns turned sex into something sinful and bad. Sex is very much natural and, when records began, it was solely about reproduction. It still is today, from an evolutionary perspective. :nod:

    First part is wrong second is correct.



    Have a guess.
     
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    Nope. Everyone else has figured this out but you. It is objectively a medical procedure and no worse than getting a tooth pulled.
     
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    Happily .. no matter what it is still her decision to make.
     
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    Its objectively not.

    Its murder as I have already logical proven.
     
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    Then so is meat.....as long as we are redefining terms. Save the cows! Lol

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    Nope you simply redefined terms....I could just as easily say fly swatting is murder. Lol
     
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    I would suggest working on your critical thinking, but I guess we cant have everything we want.

    Murderer
     
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    Sorry you lack even the rudimentary thinking to understand.
     
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    If you wish to compare swatting a fly to murdering a baby then I would not be surprised. That is typically what murderers do. They belittle the life of the one they kill.

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    And yet I provided reason and logic that you could not deny. But yet you ignore. Is very common for the defeated to do.
     
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    You are a homicidal maniac every time you order a happy meal. Lol
     
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    I'm sure thats the false equivalency you have convinced yourself of. In order to lessen the burden on you for supporting murder.
     
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    An opinion based on false premise is not objective, it is subjective and that is all you opinion is.

    you premise is that consent to one thing is consent to another and that is a subjective opinion ergo all that follows that presumption is subjective . .you can sit and cry all you like, the reality is your bleating doesn't change reality.
     
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    The false equivalency is confusing a fetus with a baby.
     
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