About Noah And That Wooden Boat

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    That is a function of Atomism.
    Seven is part of the pattern of the universe.

    Man images that pattern in his thinking, because man thinks the way the universe is.
    The Jews understood this way back, and called these the Seven Doubles in their Kabbalah.
     
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    Ahhh but nine is the Divine number for geometry.
     
  3. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Remember that the height of the ark was thirty cubits. Genesis 6:15 (CEV) = "Make it four hundred fifty feet long, seventy-five feet wide, and forty-five feet high."

    Genesis 6:15 (ERV) =
    “This is the size I want you to make the boat: 300 cubits[a] long, 50 cubits[b] wide, and 30 cubits[c]high.[h=4]Footnotes:[/h]
    1. Genesis 6:15300 cubits 437' 1/8" (133 m) if this was the short cubit or 510' 1 13/16" (155.5 m) if it was the long cubit.
    2. Genesis 6:15 50 cubits 72' 10" (22.2 m) if this was the short cubit or 85' 5/16" (25.92 m) if it was the long cubit.
    3. Genesis 6:15 30 cubits 43' 8 7/16" (13.3 m) if this was the short cubit or 51' 3/16" (15.55 m) if it was the long cubit.

    So I was wrong. The tallest mountains at Noah's time were only 22.5 (or 25.5) feet high!!! The Earth was indeed flat!!! The Bible proves that the Earth was flat!!! The tallest mountains were around 25 feet tall. That explains how those marine fossils got on top of the highest mountains.

    But if the water was only about 26 feet deep how did the ark float without crashing into those 25 foot tall mountains? Did it have any draft at all or did it sit on top of the water like a lily pad?
     
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    If they were not mountains at the time of the flood, why does Genesis 7 call them such?
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    That's what's known as making mountains out of molehills.
     
  6. NaturalBorn

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    Define how high a mountain must be.
     
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    A heck of a lot more than 22.5 feet. That barely qualifies as a hill.
     
  8. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    What?

    You just....

    Ahh.....HELL....I just can't take it.

    AboveAlpha
     
  9. AboveAlpha

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    What??

    I guess it get's worse.

    AboveAlpha
     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    Every time we go into an Ice Age the Worlds Oceans DECREASE IN SALINITY.

    Every time we go into a Warming Trend which results in Polar and Glacier Ice Melt.....the Worlds Oceans....INCREASE IN SALINITY.

    The reason for this is Polar and Greenland Ice Packs are FRESH WATER....as when ocean water evaporates and falls as snow which over many eons turns into Glacier and Sea Ice Pact.....it evaporates a FRESH WATER VAPOR.

    It might have been possible that SEVERAL BILLION YEARS AGO PLUS....that Earth's Ocean's might have had a lower Salinity Level as when the Earth's Ocean's formed due to Billions of Ort Cloud Cometary Bombardments this water had to leach out of the planet's bedrock and other ocean floor and coast rock the Salt that exists in Earth's Ocean's today.

    But this was well before plants and animals evolved on this planet.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    HA!!!

    GOOD LUCK GETTING HIM TO DO THAT!!! LOL!!!

    Don'tyou know this guy loves to post statements that are either completely false or complete opinion or ideological beliefs as he SWEARS WHAT HE POSTS ARE FACTS!!!

    Even if he refused to prove they are facts by providing a LINK to a viable source.

    But of course all of us are GOD HATING LIARS AND SEAKERS OF THE DEVILS TOUNGE!! LOL!!!

    I wonder if this guy's PANTS occasionally just SPONTANIOUSLY COMBUST!!?? LOL!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  12. contrails

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    I think you have that backwards. As ice packs grow, the remaining ocean water would become more saline, while melting fresh water ice would dilute the oceans, reducing salinity.
     
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    I never mentioned that elevation.
     
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    You didn't have to. Have you read Genesis 7:20 lately?
     
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    Like the speed of light, which NaturalBorn believes was 100s of quintillions of miles per second in 4000 BC....

    He'll no doubt claim the "cubits" of Gen. 7:20 were "1000 feet each" during the flood....though cubits were SMALLER when Noah was building the Ark....

    otherwise, using the "new cubits".... the Ark would have been over 50 miles long and 20 miles wide. :)
     
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    Okay, so what does that prove? Not what you think is does by reading it out of context with the whole passage.
     
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    I'll accept your apology for simply not reading the text for yourself and keep you from further embarrassing yourself.
     
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    See?

    I'll guarantee you that NB will claim that "cubits were different sizes depending on the 'context' of the passage"....changing from what a "cubit" is in Genesis 6:14-16...to a much, much larger "cubit" in Genesis 7:20.

    Or he'll claim that Mount Everest only formed AFTER the Flood. :D

    (BTW, he has me on Ignore, so he won't see this post. :) )
     
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    And reading it in context changes it how?

    So now you're saying that the Earth before the flood was NOT flat? I wish you would stick with an argument for more than a couple of pages.
     
  20. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    I wonder how the ark avoided running aground on the highest mountain peaks as it was bobbing along on the waves? And how did Noah take soundings to know that he was 22.5 feet above the highest mountain when he was in an enclosed ark?
     
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    Where did I say the Earth was ever flat?
     
  22. contrails

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    In the other thread about soft tissue in fossils.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=388982&p=1064597083#post1064597083
     
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    He will if somebody quotes it.
     
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    You imagined spherical. It says He created the heavens and the earth, and the earth was formless and empty. Now the question is what does formless and empty signify? The earth refers to either the planet, for something like soil on the face of the earth. I think we need to be linguists, and both capable of reading the language Genesis was first written in. For what I infer from the English is that He create the heavens, which is the sky and the earth which lies below the sky. Formless and empty signifies it was a barren planet. Nothing was here, except the soil and the sky above it. Since the sentence in question says heavens and the earth, surely this means the ground and the sky.
     
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