About Noah And That Wooden Boat

Jesus was just applying the hypnosis that we use today for the same things,... even the "wine-to-water" mass hypnosis can be explained this way.

It still is sorta miracle since we have no real explanation for what hypnosis does to others, too.

 

Isn't that the kind of testimony any jury would expect to find coming honestly from different witnesses?

If each book said the exact same thing the same way, we'd just dismiss them all four one copy, and not see them as eye witness accounts of different people, each maybe only knowing parts that others did not know, etc.

 

Are you really saying that some things are not possible? Is that an absolute? Sure seems like it is.

Probably because they don't know the rules of engagement and subsequently they allow you and others to get away with things that I don't allow.

You know I have heard that many times and many times I have asked those making the claim to support their claim with a simple naming of the alleged games, where one can purchase such games, where I can obtain a set of rules for those alleged games, and not one of those people have ever produced anything but saying 'semantics'. Well for your information, semantics is not a game. Doubt that, then simply Google it and see for yourself. If after reading what semantics is, then consider whether or not I and others should be calling your understanding of science a 'game'.

To ignore someone is to show disrespect,,, and as I recall, there was a recent long thread on the subject of 'respect'... unfortunately that one was never resolved either... So....?

 

The Ark story is one version of a popular ancient myth that was treated as plausible history by gullible pre-scientific peoples who had made their own version of it a part of their own cultural mythical history, just the way the ancient Israelites had done, and just as the Babylonians had done before them, and likewise with other ancient cultures that had a flood myth.

If the version of this story preserved in the holy books of Abrahamic faiths today weren't connected with the admonition to believe in everything those books say on pain of death and eternal torment, no one would take them seriously in this day and age. They're quite implausible in light of modern knowledge.

I like when nutters build replicas of mythical Noah's mythical ark, too. I wish they'd try taking one of those out to sea for 40 days, complete with a load weight and distribution consistent with all of the animals and whatever else that was supposed to be on that boat.

 

LOL

The dual nature of Light, as both a wave and particle, is the physics problem of our century today.
This s so "supernatural" that we have the Copenhagen Interpretation and the Multiple Universe Theories fighting to explain this.

Copenhagen is discarded by many scientists because it infers a Creator Type initial Observer would have existed before the Universe formed.
That support the supernatural ideas right there.

 

I told you before that the story was written for people who otherwise would never have accepted it as true if it told about Modern Homo sapiens flooding Out-of-Africa:

 

No they are not.. They are responses to other postings. Perhaps in that fanciful (Invisible Pink Panda) mind of yours you have interpreted them as a 'code of conduct', but I really do suggest that you check out that subject matter and learn what a code of conduct is.

I have never said that I could show PROOF of a claim. Other than showing proof that neither you or the others have been able to change my beliefs. You and they have failed miserably in that task or mission or whatever label you want to place on it as a rationalization for your behavior.

Strawman... Not hardly. Are you now in denial that some non-theists on this forum have referred to Christians as being uneducated?

Show me a code, rule, statute, law, regulation, TOS or other document wherein it is mandated that everyone be required to show proof of anything outside a court of law.

 

And this is one of those rare instances where it's true.

No it's a simple concept civilized folks been using for years it's called mutual respect ... but I don't really expect you to be able to understand this concept.

The game is in your head, it's all yours, you own it, you invented it, there is no need for you to travel to any store to purchase it.

Ignore me or not it's up to you ...however be forewarned that until you desist from these childish games you can expect no less from me right back at you, and that will be all the proof that I need to convince me you are incapable of civilized debate... or just not really interested in it!

 

Your attempts to reinterpret the bible in extremely allegorical or methaphorical ways are amusing, but I trust you'll forgive me if I don't accept them. Your graphic is certainly a stretch.

 

Nope. Your post are a code of conduct. You constantly ask people to prove their positive assertions, you will be held accountable to your own code of conduct.
You have made a positive claim that "Possibilities don't have to be proven". SHOW PROOF OF YOUR POSITIVE ASSERTION!!

If you cannot show proof of a claim, then you should stop asking people to show proof of theirs, or stop making positive assertions (such as "possibilities don't have to be proven". ).
After all, you are setting a code of conduct be asking for such proof, you should follow your own code of conduct.

And that matters how? This has nothing to do with you not showing PROOF of your claim that "possibilities don't have to be proven". Because you cannot show proof of this positive claim, you have introduced the topic : "Christians as being uneducated" only to bash it. That is THE definition of a straw man.

Look up hypocrisy.

 

Hey genius... These are not my posts and I would appreciate it if you do not try to put words in my mouth! (from your post #132)

 

Well, if you insist that my every writing is a code of conduct, then show me within all of my writings where I have stated that my writings are a 'code of conduct'. You can't because I have not, therefore, you are acting on fantasy in this regard. The remainder of your junk below is rejected because you are operating in a fantasy world.

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My apologies anomaly. You are correct and I did make an error in that posting. I do hope no harm was done to you in that error that I made.

 

Thank you!

See how easy this mutual respect thing can be!

 

Oh, I have no problem with admitting to error when it can be shown that I have committed an error. It is too bad that others cannot be so honest in their dealings. However, that is the basis of most of my challenges to people on this forum.. I see where they might be meaning something other than what has been stated, ask for clarification and all hell breaks loose. It seems that they think I am being confrontational, when in fact I am not. If PROOF can be shown that I am wrong, I will admit to that wrong (as I did with you), but if that PROOF cannot be shown, then I will stand my ground. BTW: from my perspective, PROOF (to me) cannot be shown through the use of innuendos, character assassination, and such personal slurs as are frequently seen on this forum.

 

Hmmmm...

Now I want to build Noah's Ark in minecraft.

 

Alas ... we have finally discovered common ground.

 

According to you "everything is opinion" as you deny objective reality.

There is no reasoning with someone who denies objective reality.

 

Well I am pleased to read that decision of yours. It means that we have a common denominator within our beliefs even if some or all of the remaining beliefs are at odds... we should be able to maintain a mutual respect for one another. I am all for it. Have a blessed evening.

 

To give you guys a real scale of the boat, somebody built the entire thing in Minceraft. This video is five minutes long:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQnfThS9Naw

 

Presumption on your part. I do not deny objective reality, I view objective reality as a subjective product of the mind.

 

Here try these sites. They would work well.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=game+of+trolls

 

Who ever claimed man created such things?

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Ok assuming that such an idea could work explain how all the known species of insects got on the ark.

There are too many of them to fit

 

Claiming that objective reality is "subjective" is denial of objective reality. As crank stated. You only deny objective reality when you are in danger of losing an argument.

It is your modus operandi. Almost any argument can be refuted by denial of objective reality. You think you are sneaky in doing this and that others have no figured this out.

Your modus operandi is disingenuous trollywaddle. In your case it is trolling because you are not consistent and therefor a hypocrite = often you accept objective reality

 

I'll wager he respects objective reality every waking minute of every day, just as do all theists (and atheists) - apart from those sadhus who grow 20 foot dreadlocks and eat one grain of rice a day. In other words, they live like there is no afterlife, nor gods. To take the 'thought experiment' a step further, I'll bet you most theists would be beyond horrified if someone they know and love was standing in front of them watching them 'sin', yet they never seem to mind that the one responsible for the fate of their eternal souls (god) is watching. The upshot, of course, is that VERY few actually believe there are sky fairies and an afterlife. Not really truly. The world would be a very different place if they did.

 

One more time: " I view objective reality as a subjective product of the mind." My statement does not equate to the claim that you are making. You are misrepresenting what I said.

More of your false presumptions based on your faulty misrepresentation of what I stated.

Seems like you are projecting. If you truly believe that I am trolling then report me to the moderators. But then make sure that you let them know that you are also 'name calling'. 'hypocrite'?