Against Abortions mean you are Pro-Life

Gee, ya know, since everything you've ever posted has been debunked by so many I'll pass on this, too....


I still don't see why you thinking forcing women to have abortions is wrong but you delight in forcing them to give birth...

 

There's already a thread discussion on this:
Which is worse, forced pregnancy, or forced abortion?

Maybe you should go read it.

 

In the context of an debate about abortion, what kind of life did you think was
in question? This is what I was just talking about, it should not be necessary
to provide qualifiers to every sentence and that reasonable assumptions can
be made by reasonable people. Are you a reasonable person?

It seems to be you that is confused about what type of life is in question in
a debate about abortion. Of course when we say "life begins at conception"
in the context of a debate about abortion, reasonable people will make the
natural assumption that we are strictly discussing "human life". This is neither
obfuscation nor disingenuous. Who is being ignorant when they cannot discern
what kind of life are we referring to in a discussion on abortion? I would say that
would be you.

That sperm deserved Constitutional protection is the argument you are trying
to make when you cannot draw a distinction between the life of a spermatozoa
and that of a human being.

 

I don't have to read it....FORCING a woman to do either is heinous misogyny.

 

But forcing conception onto a fetus and then snuffing that little life out is okay?

 

Of course you'll pass. Because as like Jack Nicolas said, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"

You know that if you find out that forced abortions do happen and here are the women who
will testify to that fact, in their own words on video, that you might find out what is really
going on in this country.

[video=youtube;6f2RwG00uRY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f2RwG00uRY[/video]

 

Conception isn't forced onto a fetus...., I see you still haven't researched biology.

Yes, "snuffing out" that life in an abortion is OK.

 

Do not blame me for our inability to use technically correct language. There are some that belief that all life is sacred and that higher forms should be given more constitutional protections.

Use technically correct language and folks will not have to guess at what you mean.

Anti Aborts use obfuscative and disingenuous language all the time. If you mean "human life" then say "human life"

Regardless. My previous argument does not change despite the fact that you can not seem to use correct terminology.

A sperm is "human life". If "human life" exists prior to conception then how can "human life" begin at conception ?

LOL first you used the term "life" then you changed the term to "human life" and now you change the term again to "human being"

Did you have any more obfuscations up your sleeve ?

What is your argument. Make up your mind and quit changing terminology.

Not all forms of "human life" are "human beings"

What a bunch of disingenuous hooey typical of the anti abort diatribe.

When you figure out what you are trying to say. Let me know.

 

Did you mean Jack Nicholson?

Again, forced abortions do happen just as forced pregnancy and forced child birth happen...all are illegal because FORCE was involved....but you LIKE FORCING women to do things so why do YOU object when someone else FORCES them to do something??


And I never click on your links or videos because they have all been debunked so many , many times by other posters that I know in advance they're crap.

 

You understand that anyone who "forces" a woman to have an abortion is committing a crime. If you force me to steal something you are also committing a crime. So we got that covered already

 

Not all sperm is human, and no human sperm is human life. It may in fact
be alive and of human origin, but it certainly is not a human being. It is a
human reproductive cell. Now once again we see who it is that is obfuscating
and who is being disingenuous.

When we speak of life in regards to humans, are we not talking in synonyms?

Is not a human life that of a human being?

 

Another woman who was forced to have an abortion.

[video=youtube;wL2X3KtUhCA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL2X3KtUhCA[/video]

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Do you think this woman would want to put her own mother in jail?

 

Human sperm is not human life ? What on earth are you talking about. Have you lost your marbles.

Of course human sperm is human life.

I never claimed a sperm was a human being. What on earth are you talking about ?

Quit making up nonsense an attributing it to me.

A human being is a form of human life but not all forms of human life are human beings/humans.


You keep on using these terms as if they are directly interchangeable when they are not. This is the basis (along with falsely attributing claims to me that I did not make) of your disingenuous obfuscation.

What is it that you are trying to claim ?

 

Some of those people who "like" to put restrictions on abortion actually believe that women ARE murdering fetuses in the womb (infants do not reside in the womb) at 40 weeks of gestation, but most really know better; they just like to use that argument for the gullible among us. Those who "like" to put restrictions on abortion must not really care whether abortions are performed or not since Canada without restrictions has a lower rate of abortion than the US.

True that, and how fortunate that women are individuals. Not only that, but women are individuals who are fully capable of making their own decisions involving their own bodies.

 

A sperm is a sex cell, it is not a human life. You are the only one who
seems to be confused about what a human is, what is human life, what
is a human being. You are the only one confused about what life we
are talking about, when we say when life begins, about whether or not
a sperm deserves civil rights.

 

Lower rates of abortion are not due to a lack of abortion laws. That is a non-sequitur.

Even the most liberal of states within the United States have laws limiting abortions.

Why haven't they eliminated them?

 

Every right has restrictions, abortion, guns, speech. This is not news

 

Lower rates of abortion have a number of causal factors, but it does demonstrate that more restrictions does not mean less abortions. If you really care about reducing abortion, you must carefully consider the effects of the restrictions you support.

Because people keep believing the lies?

 

Well, of those 3 only 2 are enumerated.

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No, it doesn't mean that. Do you understand what a non-sequitur is?

 

ROFL ... more obfuscation and switching terms.

First you said "Life" Then you said "human life" Then you said "Human being"

Now you change yet again and are using the term "a human life"

A sperm can obviously be categorized as "A Human Life" it is both human and alive. A sperm is not however "The life of a Human"

As is the case with most anti aborts such as yourself, you can not seem to figure out the difference between a noun use of the term Human: A human, Human Being, a living human -

and the descriptive adjective use of the word Human: Human being, Human life, Human feces.

You still have not managed to spit out what your claim is.

Is it

1) "Life begins at conception"
2) "Human life begins at conception"
3) "A Human being begins at conception"

or your latest change of terms to

4) " A Human life begins at conception"

or is it that you really meant 5) The life of a human begins at conception ?

1 through 5 mean different things.

The fact that you are substituting terminology as if the words (Life, Human life, Human being, a human life) as if each means the same things is how you are engaging in obfuscation.

Terminology in the abortion debate matters.

The claim that 1) "human life" exists at conception is a completely different claim than the claim (2) "A human exists at conception" or (3) "A Human Being exists at conception"

2 and 3 are the same claim. (1) is not the same claim as 2 and 3

Using the term "Human Being" complicates things because people get definitions confused. As a compound word is a "noun" meaning a human/Homo sapiens.

The two words taken separately can mean anything living that is human.

So. What on earth do you want to claim.

1) Human life begins at conception

or

2) A human exists at conception

You can claim both are true but each needs to be debated separately because they are two different claims.

What is false and therefore obfuscation is using the these terms interchangeably as if they mean the same thing when they do not.

There is no point in debating both claims at the same time as you have yet to even learn what the difference is between terminology so pick one and we can debate it.

1 or 2 ? What on earth are you trying to claim.

 

You'll just have to figure it out for yourself. I can't be more clear.

 

Holy cow. Dude ALL rights have restrictions. Don't be so silly

 

Which says nothing about my point that only 2 of the 3 are enumerated.

 

Dude I don't even know WHAT your point is. Talk about non sequitur

 

LOL Yeah ... Look at you run and hide when faced with having to clarify what you mean.

What a howl !! Ha ha ha ha ha

Thanks for the laugh