Anti capitalist conservatives......

The Japanese took a bath on those investments, but Japan was and is an ally, not an opponent. In my opinion its crazy to allow an avowed adversary buy up US real estate.

 

You need to actually state what you are worried about.

 

Better to let your enemies take a bath on bad investments than your allies. China like Japan is buying high. They will probably be lucky if they get to sell low.
Beyond that the USG, like all governments, is very good at seizing real estate when it suits them.

 

China has access to more than THAT! After all, there are tons of US companies that sell your data. China doesn't have to buy Tiktok to get info. In fact, why would China care about the blithering morons on Tiktol???

The USA does very little to help people try to protect their id.

 

Well, I doubt the idea that China is buying stupid investments.

But, the US certainly does go after the assets of foreign governments, organizations and individuals when there is justification.

That's an advantage we have in enforcing our will, based on having a strong economy relative to the rest of the world, trustable currency and influence throughout world through economic ties and banking.

 

Well what you asked about was why I was concerned about private Chinese corporations, and I gave you and example. So still think Chinese private corporations are exactly like Western ones?

 

Of course not. I've never thought that.

The thing is, our political concerns about China are real and plentiful.

But, REGARDLESS OF THAT, we need to be watching world economics, where China is a significant leader.

I've been talking about that issue, thinking the people who want to compare governments, etc., can find themselves a thread for that.

 

When somebody starts rambling and makes 13 different points, it's much easy to chop it up and respond back to each individually.

 

Weird since you asked exactly about private corporations in China, but OK

 

What would you expect? They're trying to appeal to lower- and middle-income folks, whites in particular, with nativist appeals. They have no intention of doing anything for them economically.

 

What is all this stuff? What does this have to do with "Libs" (liberals? socialists? Democrats?) ??

Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush the Elder, and Bush the Younger all got on with China. Trump made some noise, but blew up the TPP, the threat to Chinese influence in Asia. Obama with the TPP was the first President in along time to put pressure China.

This doesn't square with how our political parties dealt with China.

Uh huh.

Huh? What on earth are you talking about?

Both parties need to step up their game against China. Trump scuttled the TPP, but then tried to lever up on China without partners. He got nowhere because all Chinese exports to this country are less than 4% of their GDP.

 

Show where I asked about private corporations in China.

 

We don't have to let anyone do as they please with land. We could require foreign owners with farmland to put it into production.

 

I have been numerous times to Randolf and Lackland in SA. There is no way in god's green earth that any electronic surveillance would be apply applied there. And I would imagine that would apply to any and all air force bases from Minot to Vandenburg to all the others.

 

You are shifting goalposts again Mikey. Using the word "beholden" and in the statement and prior to using the word "weird" about private and public companies in China, was clear enough. The simple fact is you cannot defend your argument to its logical conclusion and that is a sad reality for you. So, you try to come up with this whimsical nonsense, calling me a contrarian, aka "This is a good example of trying to argue with people who simply want to argue" thinking it will give you an advantage. Like I said, for small businesses, they are exactly the same. Want to learn how to run a small business, go to China or Japan or Thailand or the Philippines or anywhere else where the culture is totally opposite of here. You would learn that having a small business there is about the same as having a small business here, except there are more obstacles for foreigners. When it comes to profit, reasons, business ethics in general, etc, they are the same. What is different is the culture, where they don't complain the cards they are dealt with unlike here. Or hell, try to go to Europe, like Germany or France, and you will see the same thing. Even the larger businesses in China believe in profit and so forth. They will use the laws to the fullest advantage much like here. We have more similarities economically with China than politically.

I have read the article where you are coming up with this except the articles really don't talk about how the Chinese Government interacts in the way you describe.

the simple reality is China is the new boogeyman with modern conservatives and nativists as you are. There was the Muslims after 9/11 and then the illegals during the Obama Administration and now China where everything Chinese must be bad. Hogwash.

 

So how is TikTok different from Facebook, Instagram, Truth Social, Parlor, the internet browser you are using, your bank or other financial institution websites, any website you go to on the internet, Google Maps or any other Map app that one uses, and all the other apps, websites, etc. that will collect that data and eventually sell it to whatever customers as long as it is "business related." The Chinese government does have the ability legally obtain that data without any warrant, but then again, so does the US federal government through the Patriot Act I and 2 with its massive metadata collections without such a warrant.

the main difficulty with e-commerce from a legal standpoint is that the lines can and do get blurred quite often.

 

Yep. Let them bring money, but make sure they behave.

 

"Republican Marxists?" Aren't Americans confused enough already?

 

What's your solution?

 

Obviously he doesn't have one. He's a professional whiner, like many on this forum.

 

I doubt it but I hope you are right.

 

The Chinese government is a totalitarian police state. They snap their fingers and the Chinese have to jump.
If you doubt that, ask Jack Ma.

 

Buying low is almost always a better strategy than buying high.

 

Generally true, but there has always been an effort by a minority of conservatives to combine socially progressive policies with sound economics.

 

True, but the poster was trying to label "true" conservatives as only Libertarians. However, Libertarians came about when the government went from a laisse-faire economic system to a more Keynesian system in the 1930s. And from there, it morphed into other subgroups as the population grew and we constantly changed what the definition of "federalism" was.