Are lifers also against the morning after pill?

I've heard many extremists call to have the morning after pill banned, saying it "murders children". Funny since a child cannot be born only one or two days after sex. Are people who want the plan B pill banned oppressive and authoritarian? This would also cover those extremists who think all contraceptives should be outlawed, Like Rick Santorum.

 

He really thinks that?? Wow.. You have some very crazy nutters in the US politics.

 

Jeez...it would be nice to someday have a thread started that doesn't just jump straight to extremes and exagerations..

Rick Santorum is not anticontraceptives...good grief.

*Pretending this is a rational thread*

I would much rather give someone a morning after pill than an abortion. In a perfect world there would be no need for either but of the two the Plan B is much less objectionable for me.

Still would not want it to be available over the counter for minors though.

 

I googled a bit... Seems like he indeed is:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/rick-santorum-favors-making-birth-control-illegal/

 

Why not? Do you prefer minors to have any illegitimate children they create?

 

Still posting out of ignorance. Why not inform yourself before posting?

 

Actually, he is, and he has stated as such.

 

As opposed to becoming killers you mean?

 

Yes the morning after pill is an abortion pill. It should be banned. It is not a contraceptive device as conception has already taken place.

Rick Santorum is not for banning contraceptives. That is rediculous.

 

Only in America is other peoples sex lifes a major topic within a national election...............instead of the economy, Iran, education, highways, housing, etc....our political "leaders" have to explain their views on they way and with whom US citizens have sex............STUPID

 

Lol... if you're going to vote or support an extremists, you should at least be familiar with that extremist's views...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MBO9tNNejo"]Santorum: birth control harms women and society - YouTube[/ame]

 

You need to get out more....or perhaps read something besides your right-wing propaganda.

http://ec.princeton.edu/questions/ecwork.html

Emergency contraceptive pills will not cause an abortion. EC is not the same as the abortion pill. There is no time when the emergency contraceptive pills available in the United States would end a pregnancy once it has started. Hormonal emergency contraceptive pills don’t have any effect if you are already pregnant.

http://www.salon.com/2012/01/04/rick_santorum_is_coming_for_your_birth_control/

Here is an actual Rick Santorum quote: “One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.” And also, “Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that’s okay, contraception is okay. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

These comments were not dug up from some bygone moment of ideological purity, before dreams of a presidential campaign. He said them in October,

 

Why would they need facts if they have dogma?
Good post Grannie.

 

I don't know about that abortion pill...never heard of it. It maybe the case that it prevents conception...Good for them if they did it...I have heard of this one:

I guess perhaps not all "morning after" pills are the same, you have to conceed.

 

I don't have to concede any such thing. There is a difference between "morning after" pills or emergency contraception and abortion pills. Emergency contraception or "morning after" pills are only effective for a few days after intercourse. Abortion pills, or medical abortions, work up to 7 or 8 weeks after conception. Do NOT call "abortion pills" "morning after" pills, because they're not. Do NOT call "morning after" pills abortion pills, because they're not. Do some reading on this subject.

 

Depends on what you believe conception is.

The morning after pill prevents an egg from implanting. To me that's not abortion, that's contraception.

 

That is called an abortion.....lol. Conception has already occurred. You intentionally tOok a drug that sees to it that the baby coming down the Fallopian tube cannot implant at all, thereby creating an artificial abortion.

Contraception stops gametes from fusing together and creating a new life. The morning after pill is an abortificant drug b/c conception has already occurred.

Rocket science, this is not!

 

The woman is not pregnant until the fertilised egg has implanted in the womb. Until it has, there is no potential at all for human life. No baby will ever result if the egg hasn't implanted.

A baby is not formed in a few seconds. Its a long process that takes nine months. The process has taken its first step when conception occurs, but that process will not continue unless the egg implants in the womb.

 

In your opinion.

It's my opinion that conception hasn't taken place till said fertilized egg implants and begins to develop.

A zygote is not a fetus or an infant. Its a lump of cells the size of a pin head. That isn't life, its cells multiplying.

 

Why should we care about a lump of few cells coming down the fallopian tube?

 

A few people do, in which case they wouldn't use the morning after pill. It isn't compulsory.

 

You do realize you are also a lump of cells...

 

Yes, but sentient lump of cells (with a mind). Thats the sole reason I am valuable. If I was not, I would not mind if you kill me.

So again, why should we care about unsentient lump of cells coming down the fallopian tube? It does not even care about itself, just like for example a rock.
Killing an adult sentient dog is more immoral than killing an unsentient embryo.

 

Not directed at you in particular... but I could argue against that case for many people.

 

Such as? I can only think about braindead people - which are not considered persons and do not have rights, so its consistent.