Are Police Sexist Against Men?

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  1. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a large sector of American society which believes that the American Police Force is racist against blacks. As evidence, they point to the disproportionately high share of blacks killed by police, as opposed to whites. Indeed, as of July of 2016, police had killed 123 blacks, and 238 whites. That is more whites than blacks, roughly twice as many, but there are roughly 4x as many (non-hispanic) whites as there are (non-hispanic) blacks, 63.7% of population as compared to 12.2% (per 2010 census data). This means that blacks are a little more than twice as likely as whites to be killed by police.

    The above information is roughly enough for many Americans to prove that the police are racist, but I have another question to ask? Are the police sexist? There are more females than males in the U.S, yet according to the same data as I used above, there were 484 males killed by police, as opposed to 25 females. after accounting for difference in population, that means that men are roughly 20x as likely as women to be killed by police.

    So if the first set of data proves that police are racist against blacks, then the second set most assuredly proves that police are sexist against men.
     
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    In the US, everyone including men have been brainwashed to be sexist against men. Having spent a lot of time involved in this issue, I believe this is one big reason why men are killing themselves at up to ten times the rate of women. We are trained to work until we drop and don't expect to be happy.

    Of course cops are sexist against men. Everyone is.

    30,000 deaths a year from guns, 20,000 of those suicides, the vast majority of those, men.

    Everyone cares about gun deaths until we learn it is men killing themselves. Then, no one gives a damn as to why.
     
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    The system is inherently sexist, but there was some legitimacy in it. When the nuclear family was the norm, keeping families intact, even if both parents may have committed crimes, was seen as the socially and morally responsible thing to do. Unfortunately liberals have decimated the nuclear family, in part due to man hating feminists. Oddly enough, the very feminists that demand equality always seem to forget to get that equality in sentencing when it comes to women who commit the same crimes as men. Either its an oversight, or those man hating witches are just hypocrites, I leave that for others to decide...
     
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    lol, the entire judicial system is sexist against men....
     
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    This is really kind of silly................to the point of PC madness insanity. But one point is true. In domestic violence cases, this is fact. There's some crazy women out there, and yes, men can get the shaft here based on a simple accusation or noise disturbance.
     
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    Just look the list of the most wanted criminals issued in any US city.
    Almost 90 % are blacks or Latinos.
     
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    I was a LEO for seven years in the suburbs of Detroit. Keeping in mind that the majority of police are nothing more than average human beings, the biggest problem is fear that the cop experiences as he encounters different people in his work. The average white cop is more frightened of a black male than he is a white male. I don't mean to sound racist but it's simply a fact, He is more threatened by a white male than he is a female, black or white. That might contribute to the seemingly imbalance of the statistics.
     
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    When you have 7% of the population committing half of the homicides in the nation you would have to be an idiot to look at a black male between a certain age in urban areas as anything other than a potential suspect. Police don't look at Asians or even Middle Easterners the same way because they aren't running around committing substantially more crimes per capita than other races.

    That being said while I don't have any issues with being more guarded against black males in their teens and 20s the actual sentencing (not to be confused with arresting) is way out of proportion and does need to be addressed.
     
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    Oh those horrible liberals and feminists, they ruin everything, don't they? he he

    Who would have thought it? Give women birth control and the ability to earn a living on their own and suddenly there is a whole class of men deprived of ever having the experience of a life-partner relationship with a woman.

    I've "known" quite a few feminists throughout my life. Man-hating isn't exactly the word I would use to describe their behavior towards me. In fact I think feminist leaning women make better dates. They often insist on picking up at least half the tab, and are less likely to hang around, clingingly expecting you to take care of them. There is something good about a woman who can take care of herself.
     
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    Are you sure they don't perceive you as a shopping partner or their next interior decorator? Inquiring minds want to know.
     
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    Wow, lots of words, and I see you didn't address the injustice in which women receive significantly less time than men for the same offenses. Equality means all aspects, not just the beneficial aspects. For that reason alone, feminists deserve no respect for their willingness to push and support such double standards.

    I don't doubt you know plenty of feminists, I don't doubt one day they'll hand you back your set, when you've been properly thought neutered...
     
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    I live in rather white part of the country. The most crime ridden part of the metro area where I live is not where the most blacks live, but rather where there is a high concentration of Eastern Europeans, mostly Ukrainians, with some Russians, along side the native white trash. There seems to be a great deal of criminality in Ukrainian culture and the immigrants have brought it here, just as Sicilians brought criminality to the east coast.
     
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    Is thIs how lesser men think?
     
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    Oh, no, I'm sure you're wrong....conserve/Repubs swear there is no such thing as sexism....next?
     
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    In USA, Canada, Australia, UK, NZ there is enormous discrimination against men.
    -- Men are discriminated in divorce.
    -- Male offenders are more likely to be convicted on the same evidence and once convicted get 63% longer sentences.
    -- Male victims of Domestic Violence are not helped.
    -- Male bashing and man hating is common in MSM.

    -- Men who complain about discrimination frequently lose their job. On most forums they are subject to a continuum of personal attacks.
     
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    Sadly so. Sexism against men is not mentioned in MSM, but due to Alternative Media more and more men realize that sexism is very severe.
     
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    Apparently our life experiences have been very different. Generally, women tend to be extra friendly towards me.

    The last time I went to court, my opponents were unattractive men who wore blue collar clothing, who just so happened to be right-wing ideologues. The judge was an upper middle class woman. That I clean up as well as I do, and that I am so much more articulate, I'm sure, helped the judge find so overwhelmingly in my favor.
     
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    When I divorced my ex-wife, I got everything I wanted, plus some. I had no problem gaining full custody of my children. But then I'm an honorable man and had a really good lawyer.

    Having been a player In the corporate game, twice I have gotten obstructionist middle managers fired by building sexual discrimination/harassment cases against them.

    It is all in how one plays the game.
     
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    So is it, "I'm not a sexist. It is all those dang women who keep rejecting me and taking my job that are the sexists."?
     
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    I just pointed out that sexism against men exists and this dog started barking at me.

    I am 100% for equal rights and yet every time I bring the issues some vermin attacks me.
     
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    So why don't they ADMIT sexism occurs?????????

    NOPE, ....conserve/Repubs swear there is no such thing as sexism.

    ...and TOO bad about some men feeling the sting of sexism ( which they ONLY complain about if it's directed at them) ....how does it feel ?....women have suffered through it for several thousand years...
     
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    I understand what you are saying but you missed the mark.

    The police are not racist nor are they sexist. The police are at the front or bottom of the criminal justice system. The system ITSELF from top to bottom is sexist and engaging in systemic discrimination against men. The policies are merely the executors of policy they do not make policy or pass laws.

    Withing the system men are far more likely to be arrested then women even though in many cases women are NOT less likely to commit crimes, this is particularly true for areas such as domestic violence which is actually designed to discriminate against men.. Men are far more likely to be convicted compare to women. Women who are convicted receive on average a third of the sentence that men receive if convicted of the exact same crime.

    Men are being stripped of their civil rights with policies and laws which deliberately side step due process and punish men based on accusations without any evidence. While women are seldom convicted of false accusations.

    The family court system is MASSIVELY stacked against men and discriminates horribly especially in areas of child custody and parental rights. Obviously not the same as criminal justice but it IS linked especially when women can openly abuse the criminal justice system to gain an advantage in family court such as by making accusations of domestic violence when faced with a custody battle.

    Women have many reproductive rights other than abstinence which are enshrined in law. Men have none except abstinence. Men do however have massive legal obligations which they cannot avoid. Women can easily avoid the same responsibilities and obligations and have the legal right to do so.

    None of this is the fault of the police but of law and policy makers who the police merely serve.
     
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    Discrimination affects mostly lower class men. Upper class men generally face no discrimination.
     
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    They did not in the past but yes they are intent on ruining everything now.

    Feminists are long past fighting for equal rights or even birth control they are now fighting for systematic destruction of civilization. First and second wave feminists DID fight for women's right to seek a career support themselves and live on their own and no one objects to this.

    Nor does anyone object to birth control with the exception of a few hardcore catholics and some other religious nuts.

    Once again however that struggle ended long ago and women have equal rights to men without exception even a few rights men do not have at all.

    Much of it backfired however. There is no such class of men as you describe who are deprived of having such a partner. Feminist women are just as likely as any other woman to seek the most successful man they can and marry them and be supported by them. The only difference now is that now, thanks to feminism, when women are bored with that husband and want someone new in bed they just get divorced an kick that man aside while keeping his kids money and property. Even Gloria Steinem was two faced about the issue. She preached long about not needing a man to take care of her and not wanting romantic relationships or marriage. But when her magazine failed she conveniently married a rich guy who bailed out her magazine with his money and she remained faithfully married to him until he died. Seems she gave rotten advice to women about how a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. She could not live up to her own standard.

    I also have to call BS on your claim that they split the check. Feminists are as spoiled as any other woman and will get offended if you do not pay full price for a date
     
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    No body swears that there is no such thing as sexism.

    It is historic stupidity and inaccurate to say that they have faced it for a thousand years but even if it were true that DOES NOT justify it. Racism against whites is not excused or justified by saying whites were always racist against blacks you are either against ALL racism or you are a an apologist for racism. You are either against sexism or you support it
     

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