Are Scantly Dressed Women Sending The Wrong Message?

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Thug is not a racist term it applies to people of any race.

    Rape is not exclusively and strictly about power.

    Sometimes it is about power
    Sometimes it is about sex
     
  2. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NO...why the hell would I want that?
     
  3. SpaceCricket79

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    Well I'd say that a person (man or woman) who makes more of an effort to show off their body or appearance is more dependent on attention from the opposite sex for validation (and therefore probably more likely to "sleep around").

    I mean who do you think is more of a player? This guy?

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    Or this guy:

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  4. Soupnazi

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    If a man leaves his car door unlocked and the keys in the ignition after he lacks and walks away he is going to catch some blame and contempt when the car gets stolen.

    Of course the crime will still be investigated and if caught the perp will be blamed and prosecuted. A thief does not get a pass because the victim was a fool who made it easy. But the victim is still a fool and often viewed as such.

    Why feminists cannot hold the same reasonable standard for rape is proof of how idiotic they are.

    I do not believe a sexy or scantily clad woman entices rape. In fact I suspect the opposite. When I see a hot woman in a tight dress or other revealing clothes it makes me hot and happy. That is normal. I suspect rapists have a different reaction to seeing her.

    It is not that she is asking to get attacked but she is making it easier. There are many ways to look sexy but wearing right dresses or mini skirts and hi heels makes fighting or fleeing more difficult which in turn makes a womam more vulnerable. No one blames the victim for the crime bit some victims do deserve some criticism for making it easier on the criminal.

    This is what modern third wave feminism is so stupid and disgusting about. The dogma among feminist fools is dont teach women to protect themselves instead teach men not to rape.

    All people male or female are responsible for their own safety and protection ( the liberals disagree which is why they constantly try to increase gin control ). This includes simple common sense things like locking doors and paying some attention to how one dresses. And more specific things like learning ways of defending oneself.

    On the other hand every person , male or female , has to be taught right from wrong at an early age. Other than that generality men do not need to be taught not to rape because most know not to and those who will rape do not care way you try to teach them.

    Feminists have an idiotic religion which makes women more vulnerable
     
  5. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Plus where are the feminists demanding that people not judge this man for his appearance?

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  6. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    I very much agree with your point of view. If you notice most of those making complaints against women's dress calling their perception a whore are coming from a religiously inspired morality. If you notice my signature you'll see the proof that non-religious people have a higher morality tban religious folk.

    Which all means that our enjoyment of life makes us better people.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Modesty is a cultural universal - while standards have varied, the concept of modesty has existed in every culture.

    Even the earliest hunter-gatherers covered their genitalia.

    Fact is like another poster said there's a fine line between slutty and sexy; pinpointing it is difficult.

    Standards of modesty and sexual chastity were higher in cultures where there was no welfare state, birth control, abortion, etc to deal with the incident of having a kid out of wedlock.

    Trying to use "religion" as a catch-all for everything is getting old; the idea that morals only come from "specific religions" is pretty crazy to begin with. Religions came from innate morals not the other way around.

    That could very well just mean that a lot of atheists find religion after they go to prison.
     
  8. ImNotOliver

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    Why would a person who has long rejected the concept of a god suddenly decide tbere is one because they got sent to prison?
     
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    So now it is the fault of feminists that women get raped? I can just see it now, "But judge it isn't my fault I raped her. The feminists made that woman act in ways that made me rape her."
     
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    I always thought feminism was a guaranteed rape repellent; I mean who'd want to rape this:

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    she may be dressed that way, but even if she was that way, it doesn't give a man a right to rape her, not sure where rape comes into this
     
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    if they are gonna dress that way, they will be judged that way, simple as that

    and of course that sends the message, I am gay and available
     
  13. ImNotOliver

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    No i said exactly what I meant. Go through this entire thread and you'll see that eveyone blaming tbe woman is a conservative.

    That some of you claim that blaming tne victim is not tbe same as supporting the rapist is more than disingenuous. If you were on a jury would you vote to convict or to such a degree if you thought the victim was as much resposible as the perpetrator?
     
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    No one blamed her; the idea that a person has a "right" not to be evaluated based on their dress though is pretty ridiculous and impossible to "enforce".
     
  15. AmericanNationalist

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    Wow, I can't believe I just read this. Well, I can. Critical Thinking seems to be absent in today's world.


    Who in this forum has justified rape? What kind of public argument anywhere justifies rape? In a world where the justice system cracks down HARD on rape and where the very claim(not a fact in the Court of Law, a CLAIM ALONE) can destroy a person's reputation you think there's some "rape justification"?

    There isn't. Rape is the most over-persecuted, most often false charge in the United States. So much that the definition of "sexual assault" has been revised to virtually touching another person these days(I kid you not.)

    It enitrely depends on what context you mean. If you mean in general when a guy's walking down the street and he sees a girl and finds her sexually attractive? None of course. But if you're telling me a woman touches a man sexually, tries to arouse him and even in the act of sexual behavior towards a man that the sex itself might not take its place?

    If a woman were open and candid about that statement, she'd find dating a very very difficult thing. At least if a guy's smart. You wanna know why? Because the first thing that comes to mind is the Duke Case. The first thing that comes to mind is these claims of "rape" which was really "regret sex"

    At that point, she becomes a financial and freedom danger to my life. That's when I disengage completely. Men have to realize that we're being targeted in the war on men. Every woman, looking for a payday or "revenge" is going to blackmail you. Know your stuff, and get out of that situation.

    No one has the money(or even if they did) to waste it on a lawyer, to defend themselves. Take the initiative and remove yourself from that place. Think: There's millions of women, one you. Surely ONE person will be honest enough not to screw you over.
     
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    Nothing nefarious I just want to look.
     
  17. ImNotOliver

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    The women who get around the most tend to be not that good looking. Likewise most men never get to be with hot chicks. There just aren't enough to go around. 80 year old women get raped. A good looking woman will get hit on a lot, mostly from guys who have no chance. Many men will go for just about any woman regardless of looks.
     
  18. AmericanNationalist

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    Let me just reiterate the point: Men have always been victims of sexism more than females. We're the most stereotyped, denigrated part of the human species and this post proves it. Hell, history proves it. And even when men sucked it up and accepted "sexist" roles, now those roles aren't even permitted. Men are getting royally screwed over in the West.

    We men need to take a look at Feminism and actually copy many of their behaviors to get our point across. The future of Humanity will be like an ant's colony. The men will work with the men, the females will work with the females and mating will only be specifically to breed the next generation. Human interaction is clearly at an all-time zero with these conditions.

    And those conditions have spread throughout the developed world.
     
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    To each their own; I only go after the good looking ones myself - sleeping with a girl I don't even find attractive just because she's "easy" feels desperate.
     
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    Don't be dumb, dude. Nobody justifies rape.
    If a woman dresses provocatively, I tell them to use common sense, and tell them to not put themselves in a bad situation. That's not victim blaming, that's called self preservation.

    Get a grip.
     
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    This is Imnotoliver getting completely sonned into oblivion.
     
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    I cannot relate to what you posted. Clearly not all men are the same. I easily communicate with most women wherever I go. Of those women who I carry on with it usually begins with a communication with our eyes. Clearly there is a mutual thing going on. I have no problems with feminists. They don't threaten my manhood as it apparently does to others.
     
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    How do whores dress? You seem to be an expert...
     
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    Just wait I'm just about to show how wrong you and your bero are.
     
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    whatever.
    You must not have been reading all the posts.
     

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