Are the KKK liberal or conservative?

You speak of being afforded the same opportunities so tell me, when the South passed literacy tests for voters was that racist? Doesnt sound like it on the surface of course not, but it was. Literacy tests were a ruse to stop blacks from voting in large numbers, I know what you are thinking "If they cant pass a literacy test thats their fault!! !!" but what you forget is blacks were not taught to read and you cant expect every single black person to learn on their own, and anyone who expects them to is racist whether they admit it or not. They were also kept from reading and beaten if they were caught, but even after they were freed and "had the same rights" "separate but equal" all of that bull (*)(*)(*)(*), they were still disproportionately affected by literacy tests compared to whites. Its not because they are dumb, its because they have the worst schools in the country (and still do i might add) and have been constantly oppressed by Southern Conservatives.

Tell me yes or no, is a literacy test for voting racist? It was a Jim Crow law.

 

anyone who doesn't see that the KKK were conservative and are now ultra-conservative is ignorant or lying.

 

I know it's your question, but I don't think that is the question. The should be: Do either philosophies - liberal or conservative - support radical thinking like the KKK? And the simple answer is 'NO'. The KKK will hijack whatever they can to support their demented thinking. But I don't think anyone of rational thinking on either side of the political spectrum would support what the KKK is all about.

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People within the KKK can adhere to certain political or social philosophies, I'm certain some KKK members are for higher taxes while others are against. I imagine some are for abortion and others are against it. I'm willing to bet some are on welfare while others loathe welfare.

But their core purpose - RACISM - doesn't fit within either philosophy.

 

The KKK has always been right-wing conservative. At the time that the democrats were in their favor, the democrats were also conservative (I'm not sure about right-wing).

 

J. Michael Martinez, the author of a 2007 book "Carpetbaggers, Calvary and the KKK," told us many angry Southern whites during the 1860s and 1870s were Democrats and a smaller number of them joined the KKK. So there is some historic link between Democrats and the KKK. But Martinez said it is misleading to say that the hate group was started by the Democratic Party because it was more of a grassroots creation.

There’s another point to consider.

"To say that the Ku Klux Klan was started by the Democratic Party -- it’s not the Democratic party of today," Martinez said. "(From the) 1930s until today, you think of the Democratic Party being considered the party of the disenfranchised."

Other historians had similar takes.

Carole Emberton, an associate professor of history at the University at Buffalo, wrote in an email that various "Klans" that sprung up around the South acted as a "strong arm" for many local Democratic politicians during Reconstruction. Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest -- believed to be the KKK’s first Grand Dragon -- even spoke at the 1868 Democratic National Convention, said Emberton, author of "Beyond Redemption: Race, Violence and the American South after the Civil War."

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2013/jun/10/stephen-martin/state-sen-stephen-martin-says-democratic-party-cre/

 

Thats false equivalency, do you think its a 50/50 mix of KKK members that are pro-choice and pro-life? If there is ONE KKK member who is pro-choice, it doesnt mean they are split 50/50 on the issue lol. The vast majority are for lower taxes, against welfare, against immigration, just name any liberal policy and I can guarantee you the vast majority are opposed to it, not only opposed to it but they HATE it.

Dont take my word for it, they say it themselves

Now stop with the false equivalency. Do you think just because a Nazi here or there doesnt hate Jews, that means Nazism is not against Jews in general? You are full of (*)(*)(*)(*)

 

When the "we" you speak of supports Planned Parenthood that has 80 some odd percent of its office in predominantly black areas, the only difference I see is that the "we" prefers to kill blacks before they are born instead of afterwards. Not so much a difference in the grand scheme of things.

 

Yet Truman ended segregation in the military.

 

Islam hates Jews, women, support strong family values, hate abortion and hate homosexuals and yet you were defending them in another thread. Your hypocrisy is duly noted.

 

If this were true than surely the KKK would support abortion too than right so they can keep letting black people murder their own children like the barbarians they are which you are heavily insinuating, but no, the KKK is entirely against abortion despite the fact its mostly black people getting abortions they are still very much against it.

 

Skeptical. I doubt you could find a significant number (I'm thinking 10% ... and it's probably WAY less) in the KKK that believe in progressive taxes, abortion rights or welfare, and less than 1% that believe in all three. Which doesn't mean that they aren't having abortions and taking welfare, just that they're voting against them.

Also skeptical. The manner in which racism doesn't fit in with liberalism is apparent to everyone except republicans. How, though, is racism incompatible with conservatism?

 

I agree with you here, Islam is very much like Nazism and the KKK, they are on the same level.

 

I don’t know what the mix is, and you seem to have missed my point. And I don’t know where you get your stats. I’m not sure if really are any stats on what the political philosophy of the general KKK population is. My point was, that neither political philosophy – liberal or conservative – subscribe to the core thinking of the KKK. To try to ascribe the KKK as having a conservative lean to them doesn’t mean conservatives are largely racist.

 

Harry Truman
The president that ended segregation in the military

I think you're mistaken

 

I bet you if I did a poll the right wing would say the Black Panthers are worse than the KKK, would you like to make that bet?

You know the KKK even says they are not racist? Just because someone says they are not racist doesnt make it true, not by a long shot.

 

That's easy, conservative. Too many minorities and jews are liberals for them to be liberals

 

Why do you think it is the right wing is so adamant about calling the KKK liberals and Democrats? Propaganda or stupidity? Or both?

 

Republicans have been the anti-black party for over 30 years. Democrats have led the charge in civil rights and equality. That's why blacks vote Democrat. There's no way that they're going to be convinced that the party against Affirmative Action, and a party that won't even cleanse itself of its racist members, are on their side.

 

Stills misses my point. Again, neither philosophy subscribes to the thinking of the KKK.

Racism within the democrat party is quickly become a core weapon in attacking the right when they fail on ideas. That, in and of itself, is racist. The left loves to whip it out when it just isn’t true. Accusing the Tea Party of being racist is the best example I can think of. There is nothing racist about what the Tea Party represented. Everything Eric Holder did was in the vein of race. His entire social view was narrowed into that tiny little prism. That, in and of itself, is racist. Obama jumping on every racial incident in this country and taking sides before the facts were out was racist. Need I talk about Jackson, Sharpton, Van Jones, and Rev. Wright? But I will agree that these few are hijacking the party and not representative of democrats/liberals at large.

 

I see no significant difference between the average KKK member and the average ultraconservative.

 

Yet only democrats, that is liberal democrats, are the ones that want to institute race based legislation. The democrat party has not changed that much really.

 

So you can name PLENTY of racist liberal black people, mind naming a few racist conservatives or Tea Partiers? Any? I would love to see you try.

 

Yes, there's a difference between racial, and racist.

Legislation that Democrats implement is designed to level the playing field and give minorities a fighting chance. Republicans are the ones opposing such legislation.

 

Race based legislization that directly help minorities......yes, how very racist we must be to want to help minorities, eh?

 

I'm sure there are liberals and conservatives in the KKK. Racism can manifest itself in every political ideology.