Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders Signs Law Prohibiting Transgender Restrooms in Schools

So signs/rules against RAPING, have nothing to do, with your OP, about preventing RAPE, through signs/rules against the entrance of trans girls, into school, girls' bathroom facilities?

How is that possible?

 

Exactly!

I was wondering if there are any arguments to the contrary for why anyone would support separate trans bathrooms.

 

Why are you seeking up punish people that don’t commit a crime though? Why not just punish people that commit the crime?

 

Retype that sentence correclty by replacing "trans girls" with "BIOLOGICAL MEN" and we might just make some progress. As I said, you are making this a WORD WAR and its really just basic common sense. I'm seeing some redundancy here though so this isn't going anywhere.

 

That is a pathetic straw man argument. Who said anything about stopping people from being criminals? Will rules against trans women using girls' rooms, stop the potential rapists, among them, from being perverts?

The analogy-- which was so obvious, a number of other posters first raised it-- is one, which I am only following up on, towards those who gave it inconsistent replies (since non-hypocritical logic, is kind of my "cause"). In the case of your silly statement, above, "taking away guns," would prevent those "criminals" from committing mass shootings, or other crimes, with guns. (I only put "criminals" in quotes because, for some, these mass killings, using guns, are their only criminal offense; so there is no rational argument, that they would still have killed the same number of people-- or anyone at all-- had they not had access to that particular tool).

So your argument is reduced to the patently foolish notion, that guns have zero effect on crime.


NOTE: Once more, for the gun rights crowd, the point of my argument has not to do with gun regulation, per se, but only with the analogy of it, to the argument presented here. If one is an advocate to unregulated gun rights, I am wondering how one justifies regulating public bathroom rights. Even if it is not expressly stated in the Constitution, do any of you contend that we all, do not all have a right to pee? As far as "privacy rights," in a public restroom, those are limited to what is provided by stall doors, and partitions.

 

The left acts surprised and dismissive after pushing for transgender nonsense when people push back.

Sorry the world doesn't revolve around your ideological agenda.

 

The right acts indignant and hurt when their bigotry receives pushback.

Sorry the world doesn’t revolve around your ideological agend.

 

Projection, is the one thing, about which you are consistent. Clearly, your differentiating "trans girls," from "biological men," is the meaningless, obviously only semantic, argument (or "word war," using your term).

So, fine, I'll alter my question, exactly as you ask:

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So (according to you, my suggesting) signs/rules against RAPING, has nothing to do with your OP: about preventing RAPE, through signs/rules against the entrance of biological men*, into school, girls' bathroom facilities?

How is that possible?


Are you going to defend your bogus charge, now?

 

Bigotry?

Lol.

You realize just throwing these words around doesn't make your cause more valid or superior over other perspectives right?

It's bigotry that for all if history, people with penises use one facility and those with vaginas another?

Curious. Why do you think that standard exists?

 

Further. Why do we not all walk around naked?

What's the point of clothes, because just staying warm isn't the reason we wear them.

Why you think that is?

 

It’s from Brightfart - did you expect anything else

 

Yes, bigotry. No one is forcing you to participate, just not interfere. I’m not the one trying to force my perspective on others. You’ve decided that “for all of history “ your perspective is the only one.

If your perspective had prevailed, women wouldn’t have the right to vote today.

 

Not catering to the delusions of others is not bigotry. Trying to force people to do so is however. Trying to force real females to let the males into their bathrooms and locker rooms is the real crime that the left doesn't seem to care about.

 

No foolin'. Are you under the false impression that laws against a person carrying a gun into a venue-- a so-called "gun free zone," since that was the analogy presented in the early posts of this thread-- are directed against the inanimate object, of the gun?

That it is the person, not the object, who is responsible for the act, had precisely been my point, not L75s. This is still a short thread-- it should be easy for you to retrace the argument. The OP was praising Gov. Sanders' support of rules, barring "trans" girls-- that is, non genetic females-- from girls' lavatories, in schools. The ridiculous claim, was that this new rule, would reduce school rapes-- because the rapist, would not want to violate that school rule, apparently. Does that seem a cogent argument, to your mind?

So posters (beginning, I think with Cd8ed) began asking the OP author if, under the exact same principle, he supported gun free zones: that is, a regulation, prohibiting something. The obvious hypocrisy, which various posters also commented upon-- though none more creatively, or humorously, than Mellow Guy-- is that when any gun regulations are suggested, many of the same who are apparently big believers in the efficacy of regulations, to stop rape, see them as completely useless, in stopping criminals with guns.

Hopefully, you can take it, from there, without my continued assistance.

 

You could have simply said: "Overitall, I encourage you to read from the beginning of the thread, to ascertain the context of my post.", but where's the flair in that? This is my way of saying, I skimmed through your novel, without the benefit of comprehension. The cover looked good (your writing style always does), but I suspect what you offered in stylishness, came at the expense of substance. Better luck next time.

 

Not accepting the fact that transgenders exist is the delusion the right is trying to sell. Textbook bigotry that the right doesn’t seem to care about.

 

Nope! No need. You don't seem to be able to grasp it no matter how much I break it down. I accept you have a different outlook on this topic than I do. Thanks for your contribution and have a wonderful day.

 

We use to call them crossdressers and no one really cared. It was when you wanted to force others to call them by different pronouns or be called transphobic or bigots, then want to force women to allow these men to enter they spaces where they change or shower, then force womens sports to allow natural born men to compete, that's when the line went too far. You've worn out the word bigot and bigotry that same way the left has worn out racism. Be ready for the push back, we've had enough.

 

We accept they exist. We just don't accept them in a WOMAN'S bathroom or in WOMAN'S sports.
It really isn't asking much to use basic common sense.
Men in the Men's room (regardless of what you identify as) and women in the women's room.
SIMPLE!
If they are so committed to being a girl then why do so many still have their MALE PARTS?
I'll tell you what. If they get the bottom surgery nobody is gonna stop them from using the ladies room (they won't be able to stand to pee anymore).

 

Ahh, so you are saying that, after the male student goes in and rapes a girl, he will be prevented from doing so again, thanks only to this new rule? Your arguments, certainly maintain a consistent level of quality.

If the making of a rule or the posting of a sign, in your view, here, takes away whatever is prohibited by it, is any obstacle or disincentive, whatsoever, to the commission of a crime-- why would not the same principle apply, to the use of guns? (Regarding the gun's user, just so you don't get confused, once more). And how is your quote, above, not a direct contradiction of what you had said, immediately prior to it:

Your argument seems to be, that calling a place off-limits, to anyone with a penis, or who was not born as a girl, would "take away (their) rights to enter," but that calling a place off-limits to people carrying guns, cannot "stop criminals from being criminals "

There is no factual basis, for you to think I am even advocating any specific viewpoint, other than that your, or anyone else's, argument, should at least be consistent.

IOW, if you favor bathroom restrictions, I have heard no reasonable argument for viewing gun restrictions, differently. If, instead, you are against gun regulations (because, for example, they won't stop the people from "being criminals"), then you should recognize, consistently, that bathroom rules will not stop rapists, from being criminals. I have not sided with either of these two views, only pointed out your hypocrisy, for having two completely different ways of seeing these two similar things.



*In truth, it is your own "logic" that implies that all rules are unnecessary, if you believe that, as one of your bundle of conflicting lines, says *"Taking away guns doesn't stop criminals from being criminals." I would tell you to think about it, but we both know that you won't.

 

It can help the girls in the GIRLS bathroom to not be left vulnerable to someone with the intent on raping them. But I see that might hurt a trans feelings to help the girls be safer, so to you, it's better to put the girls at risk. Must show your wokeness at all other's expense.

See how you can write a post in a couple of sentences rather than small novels?

 

Since I had altered my question, per your own, exact instructions, your unwillingness to answer, says more than all of your bluster, about my inability to understand-- directed now, against the question which you had suggested.

But if you do not feel up to defending your double standard, I am fine with moving on to something, hopefully more productive, with my time.

 

Can't be stated often enough!

 

Since I have no double standard I have nothing to defend. I also don't take you seriously anymore but your constant bumps are appreciated. Thank you and please keep up the good work.

 

THIS SUMS IT UP QUITE NICELY