As it stands, is there a single SHRED of evidence that the vaccine prevents transmission?

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Btw, why do you keep questioning what I believe. It should be apparent. Science and not Trump and repos who side with him and Moscow Mitch....That’s basic stuff.
     
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    Okay, so maybe Trump did NOT believe in the science and deliberately went against it.
     
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    You have no idea about what YOU said? Uh, okay!

    When the hell did I agree with it?
     
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    I don’t care about his motives. He’s totally incompetent.
     
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    Maybe you should look at the quote.
     
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    Just like Biden. Welcome to America, where literally ANYONE can become President apparently! :roflol:
     
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    The science of masking and vaccinations.
     
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    Biden makes an effort to follow the science. I’ve heard nothing different. Trump and others, nope.
     
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    Agreeing with the science of masking and vaccinations has more than one form! I think that they are effective. You seem to think that they're PERFECT!
     
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    You're talking about competence in general! Obama was incompetent, Trump was incompetent, Biden is incompetent. Welcome to America, where literally ANYONE can become President apparently! :roflol:
     
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    Science only takes one for,. And, Science can’t be wrong, only misinterpreted by those who don’t get it.
     
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    "Science only takes one for?"
     
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    Nope. Biden knows what he doesn’t know. That makes him less dangerous and why he was elected. Enough independents decided they were tired of an incompetent braggart especially when 700,000 were dying.
     
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    Form....try that
     
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    Pretty Ridiculous. Obama. Guess you forgot the shape the country was in when he took office and got the closest thing to universal healthcare since 1963.
     
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    You don't think that there is more than one level of faith in masking and vaccinations? Do you in fact think that masks and vaccines are PERFECT? Surely not!
     
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    Really ? Nothing is perfect. Everything evolves as more is known. I hope you didn’t think otherwise. Anyone who doesn’t get that can’t be trusted To gov. . Nothing stays the same.
     
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    I agree. So we both believe that the vaccines do not significantly protect against transmission now that we have Delta.
     
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    Because we do not know remote side effects.
    No one has done that before.
    Sure it works well in veterinary, when cows get vaccines and then slaughtered next year
    We are humans, we supposedly should live longer then cows and pigs.
    The vaccine is only working until next mutation ~ 6 months, then you need booster.
    Constant stimulation of immune system leads to immune cells depletion.
     
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    “We”, no, you don’t know. Don’t speak for me. I can go to a web site of trusted research and get contrary evidence.

    You’re speaking to a process devised by medical science and is absolutely false. We have sufficient evidence. One question, do you know how many people have been vaccinated for COVID so far, all with traceable side effects ?

    Do you know how long natural immunization lasts ?

    Good grief, you don’t lose your ability to produce any immune cells. It’s by the spreading of the disease whereby it mutates, can a vaccine become less effective.I would not say a male loses his ability to produce sperm because it all gets used up with too much sex......that idea went out with the dark ages.

    Your false statements lie in contrast and sets a stage imo, for fewer vaccines and more sickness and death. That’s supported by evidence. The vast majority of the sickest people in our hospitals are unvaccinated.
     
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    The research says, vaccine is useless for preventing the spread of disease. That is from CDC.
    I have posted their graphs earlier.
    That means immunization only last until the next mutation.
    I do not understand what is point to oppose science.
     
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    For now. Immunizations are always a race vs time whereby a mutation that makes a disease more resistant could take hold among unvaccinated and more at risk People’s.
     
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    Thats hilarious. You obviously didn’t read them correctly. The summary just below it said the opposite. I posted it. Leave the evidence to the experts. That’s not us. You are picking and choosing numbers you can’t seem to interpret correctly.
     
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