As it stands, is there a single SHRED of evidence that the vaccine prevents transmission?

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  1. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    What was the lie? Was it when Fauci said the masks wouldn't do much to stop the virus or when he changed to they were the answer?
     
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    I read the data. You read opinions and propaganda
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z
    COVID vaccines slash viral spread – but Delta is an unknown
     
  3. dagosa

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    Because you’re not using science. Your guess what the numbers mean with no science at all.
    All immunizations are only as effective till a mutation takes hold.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what’s with mandating an ineffective vaccine?
     
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    Now, is the time when you should research more recent evidence. The evidence shows immunizations is working with Delta. You can’t take one statement in time in science and pretend it’s true for all time. Do you believe in evolution ? Yes or no.
     
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    That’s a bogus statement. You can’t display your lack of science by making it and expect to be taken seriously.
    Why are you making statements promoting the spread of disease ?
     
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    Hilarious. You only pick and choose what you think supports your bogus theory, but claim foul when real science interprets it differently. And then, you are discredit the very article you get your opinions from. I’d be embarrassed to do such a thing.
     
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  8. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Higher cases this year than last when few were vaccinated. High number of cases among the vaccinated. Explain that.
     
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    Seriously, you need to not make statements that imo, unknowingly put more people at risk of dying.
     
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    First, what is “higher cases?”
     
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    Over 90% in most hospitals of severely sick COVID cases are among the unvaccinated. What ever point you’re trying to make, is dwarfed by this evidence.
     
  12. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know, number of cases. Why are they so high in mostly vaccinated states?

    The vaccine only targets one protein. It is not very effective. This is analogous to having four doors in your home but only locking one of them. That’s great if the burglar tries to enter through the locked door, but what if they choose an unlocked door?

    This is the advantage of natural immunity where all doors are locked, not just the spike protein door. If the spike protein mutates, then even the vaccine induced antibodies may no longer be effective.

    Yet natural immunity is being ignored by the ‘science’.
     
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    Risk is exactly the same i.e. 50/50.
    There is absolutely nothing that supports vaccination mandate.
    Old vaccine does not work against Delta variant.
     
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    It depends how it is counted and that is now under fire. Basically if you are fully vaccinated and contract Covid within two weeks after full vaccination it’s counted as an unvaccinated case. You really have no clue what the actual numbers are. Cases are exploding in mostly vaccinated states. How can that happen?
     
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    Seriously, do you know what you’re talking about ? It’s 50% when the antibodies wear off. That’s why we need boosters well before. How long have you been thinking you can understand the data better then the scientists who collected it. ?
    People get flu shots every year for that same reason.
     
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    Every time you “speak”, you make up a false narrative.
    Cases are exploding with those who are unvaccinated by a much larger margin in nearly every state. You think state lines affects COVID. No, just politics and you’re statements indicate to me you don’t know the difference. 90% of those with severe COVID symptoms are unvaccinated. How is that so hard to grasp ?
     
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    Translation: You don’t have a clue what’s going on other than the propaganda you are programmed to believe.
     
  18. dagosa

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    Making up stuff that’s false puts YOU in the losers bracket everytime. I don’t care about what you think, I do care that false info and delaying shots increases the chance for more resistant strains. IMO, that’s what you’re doing.
     
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    it’s hilarious that you think you’re smarter then the science you’re tying to quote.....for some unknown reason.
     
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    Well, you’re stuck with the same people you’re quoting now.....That I have no idea is ridiculous. I know I’m smarter then you, because I know what I don’t know and go to the institutions that have doubled my life expectancy and daily help make my life better.
     
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    Facts not your thing eh? Not surprised.
     
  22. dagosa

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    Labeling something as a fact simply because one makes it up and keeps repeating it only works in OZ.
     
  23. Hoosier8

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    I actually read the science instead of parroting propaganda.
     
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    LOL, when you have to claim you are smarter then you probably aren’t.
     
  25. dagosa

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    Well, you do “read” it. But you’ve shown nothing to me that indicates you know what it means.
     

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