Ashli Babbitt’s Shooter Michael Byrd Made a False Radio Call Shortly After Fatal Incident

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  1. Arkanis

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    Ashli Babbitt was shot by a Secret Service agent when she tried to cross a barricade erected to protect elected members of Congress.

    She was there illegally with thousands of other MAGA.

    If she hadn't believed Trump, she'd still be alive today.
     
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    And irrelevant. She was breaching the only barricade, guarded by one man, between a violent and angry mob and Congress. He wasn't a private citizen he was a Capitol Police Officer charged with defending Congress that was within feet of his position and the mob. He used a minimum of force available to him that had any hope of stopping the mob. He shot one time, at the precise time that ... the threat was committed to action ... and at the only moment he would have a clean shot, that wouldn't endanger anyone else.

    I agree the knife is irrelevant, no matter where it was.
     
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    are you confusing rioting "with a knife" in your pocket with brandishing a knife in an offensive matter? seems to be the case
     
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    if she hadn't have been shot, she'd be alive today. If police had done the same thing at BLM riots, the woke left would still be rioting over such an incident
     
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    fair comment-I have no issue with that. My main issue is not the use of deadly force against a mob but the double standards that happen when police have used deadly force against non-MAGA rioters
     
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    That's not the same situation at all. Shooting into a mob would have violated several principals of firearms safety. Killing someone in defense of store goods is not the same as defending members of Congress. The fact is the mob was violent, armed with pole weapons and had already destroyed the only barricade between themselves and Congress while yelling death threats. Officer Byrd had no other option available to him except stop the threat using the minimum available force that could reasonably succeed. Which he did as determined by 3 separate inquires.
     
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  7. Arkanis

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    You've been explaining to me for months that guns are used to defend against criminals.

    That day, Ashli Babbitt was a criminal.

    And ultimately, the person responsible for her precence on Capitol Hill is Donald Trump.
     
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    They were all there trying to shoot Babbitt and laughing maniacally with each shot.
     
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    IF she hadn't participated in an attack on our Capitol and became an clear and present threat to our Congress people ... she would be alive today. The BLM riots are not equivalent, counselor, and you know it.
     
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    Your issue is contrived and you know it.
     
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    you missed my point about double standards.
     
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    yeah they were a lot more deadly and caused far more damage to the citizenry
     
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    Cannot agree with that.... we all have free will...

    The person ultimately responsible for her presence on Capital Hill is herself...

    He just gave her a direction (and street directions!) and purpose...
     
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    Yep, she did this through being willingly gas lite.
     
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    No, they did a lot of property damage, and the only ones harmed were on BLM's side. They weren't attacking the seat of government and threatening the lives of our elected officials. There is no equivalence, no matter how much you wish their was. IF you're really ex DOJ you know that, any judge in a real court room would be laughing his ass off if you tried that ****. At least inside as he told you to sit the **** down.
     
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    The officers standing behind Ashli have allegedly said, on the record, Byrd never issued a warning. He shot her. Waited short moment, then called in a false report of taking gunfire from the crowd. Waited another short moment and then called in the report of him supposedly returning gunfire and hitting a rioter. Those aren't the actions of a man with a clear conscience.
     
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    uh people who lost their businesses were not on BLM's side. The retired police captain shot to death in St Louis was not on BLM's side. the firebombing of police stations and vehicles certainly was an attack on government. In Columbus Ohio a policeman was assault and his horse (mounted officer) was severely injured by a BLM operative
     
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    That's all "reportedly". What is fact, it was found he acted appropriately by three separate inquires.
     
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    And yet IF you presented that evidence in court ... oh hell .. they wouldn't even let you get to the second sentence. What happened during the Capitol attack, is irrelevant to what happened during the BLM riots and vice-versa.
     
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    But first, they made her dance the six-gun tap dance.
     
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    What are the chances of an American being shot by the police because he believed a Biden lie?

    On 1/6, dozens of MAGA could have died if all the cops who were attacked had defended themselves with their guns.
     
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    And Byrd was supposed to know that the police dispatcher's message was incorrect?
    Give it up because the police dispatcher's claim exonerates Byrd.


    "A police dispatcher had incorrectly stated, a few minutes before the incident, “They’re taking shots into the House floor.”

    “Lt. Byrd erroneously believed and acted on a false radio call and/or false report of shots fired on the House floor occurring before he left the House floor and moved across the Speaker’s Lobby to the adjacent Retiring Room,” the suit states."
     
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    Did 'Epoch Times" tell you that too? lol
     
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    I am wondering, are 1/6 rioters absolved from their crimes because there were rioters at BLM protests, too? Because that seems to be the argument you are making.

    It's a lot like the excuse that my teenage son is making when he does something stupid: But, but, everyone does it.
     
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    She was at the front of a mob trying to gain access to the chamber where congresspeople and others were being evacuated. The protest outside included many threats to those in the building.
    It was reasonable to believe that if the mob poured through the window, they would get to the chamber and the lives of those inside were at risk.
     
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