Atheists Ruin Christmas in Santa Monica

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It's a lottery. Lottery results, like any random number, can be clumpy. Santa Monica had a really dumb way of awarding the spots, so they get the unlikely but possible results of overrepresentation (for once) of atheists.

You can deal with it. I go through my day seeing at least five "Jesus Is ______" billboards every (*)(*)(*)(*) place I go, plus bumper stickers and decals and people trying to get me to repent of my "sins." Then I get to work and I have to listen to Christian Christmas carols over the work speakers. Christianity is obnoxious and intrusive. I guess that you just don't like it when the tables are turned, for once, for a short time.

Deal with it.

 

No one is trying to change the name of Christmas.

Period.

One can just as easily say there is some malicious intent in Christians calling the holiday Christmas when it was originally the Winter Solstice. But in the end, who cares?

 

In my experience atheism is far worse. At least Christians have a motive other than being (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s to people that dont agree with them.

The main goal of most atheists is to let people know that they are atheists, and then make them stop practicing religions other than atheism. That has been my experience. Most Christians I know dont do that.

LOL! You do know I am an atheist, right?

 

Well, it is in the US. In Australia? Not so much.

 

You can express yourself, but just not if it hurts anybodies wittle feewings.

 

Do atheists understand how statistics work? Based on this story they do, so I am wondering why there is all the denial or professions of innocence when teh obviousness of what happened occures.

This is a long standing tradition. The lottery allows representation, and every year a small number of organizations that do the same thing every year put their name in a hat. Jews, Christians, and occassionally the other, and what you wind up with in a fair system is the basic representation of the community.

Lets say there ate three Christian, one Jewish, and one other. And four are drawing, and no one can get more than two. This keeps the station stable and allows participation is teh community cahnges and suddenly we have Buddhists in the community in large numbers.

Now if you are an atheist with a chip on your shoulder, there is a sure fire way to upset that statistical balance - you drop 20 names in the hat, virtually guaranteeing that you will get the lions share of the space.

Its a pretty dick thing to do, so dickish, that American Atheists, who adverstise pointedly their behavior like offensive billboard and sky banners have backed away from it entirely. Its such a dickish thing to do that Santa Monica will probably change the rules to prevent the manipulation of a system that was working fine ... so long as nobody tried to manipulate it deliberately.

And atheists did so. Atheists did so, not anybody else.

And in the middle of someone else's holiday, they made up their own holiday, a blatant rip off from Paganism (which is funny considering the number of atheists that claim we stle our faith from elsewhere), and put a display on of exactly what atheism is - selfishness. grand standing. exclusion.

If you atheists don;t want your atheism defined in this manner, then I suggest you write American Atheists and let them know that you are not pleased in the slightest to have your faith drug through the mud - to be represented as a bunch of ********s on Christmas.

After all, in one blow, the group has just undone years of work from atheists who have pointedly been saying that atheism is not about fousting it on anyone or destroying Christmas.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111104134232AAyxkwD

Well, you atheists give the group money. You cheer on their antics and demnad more - and you are getting exactly what you paid for.

Congrats, you are allowing this group to push atheism in total ever closer to the antics of the Westboro Baptist Church. Its your faith.

 

Yes, the original title of the birth of Jesus was called Winter Solstice.

And you guys claim we make things up?

"Heh Mary, Joe here, I can't wait 'til next month when you give birth to the Winter Solstice!" Just like the Bible says.

My question? Why do atheists expect anyone to treat these kinds of obvious antics with even a grain of respect?

 

Or indeed wittlel people wiff BIIIIIIIG! Kwistian feewings who hate it when they're not special...

 

Yep, you guys are ALL victims not dicks. Gotcha.

Remember this when someone shuts down an atheist program. You'll be victims then too.

Question for atheists: Is there a little test they give you when you join the cult ... er, faith? Do they ask you questions and then coach you how to respond in a manner that allows you to always be the victim no matter how wrong you are?

 

from another thread:

Why do you just keep recycling the same nonsense?

 

The loco, er I mean, local atheists in a NJ town are coming against a banner hung on public lamp poles by firemen that says "Keep Christ in Christmas." They are asking for equal access, which I find OK, However, the atheists verbiage will be their usual 'attack' verbiage and is not consistent with the Christmas banner that is being hung!

Now if the 'Christian banner' said "Atheists are dumb A$$es, stupid, vain, arrogant self-promoters, worshipping man rather than their Creator, and shud be publicly shunned by the local community", then would the atheists object to equal attack verbiage?! I believe this word was invented 'by them,' but in fact is 'for them'..."hypocrites." Their 'ultimate' goal is to banish religion all together, but play a disingenuous game in the process..

 

What's the goal? Cultural awareness of how (*)(*)(*)(*)ing annoying religious billboards and displays are, whether they are put up by atheists or theists.

 

What would an appropriate atheist banner be? I view the phrase "Keep Christ in Christmas" as an attack on people with a secular outlook on Christmas.

 

As I said, religious displays are annoying, and should not happen. You find this inappropriate, and I agree - it is just as inappropriate as if Christians, as they usually do, controlled all but three of the displays.

American Atheists does not represent all atheists. They are a very in your face group, just like the many, many right-wing Christian groups out there. At least they don't have a credible presidential candidate such as Michelle Bachmann or Rick Santorum. The Christian fundamentalist threat to freedom is looming, and you expect people to just sit around and protest quietly, peacefully, and without annoying your sensibilities? Please.

By the way, AA is not anywhere near the level of Westboro Baptist. That's just silly - if you can find ONE instance of an atheist protest at a funeral, celebrating the deceased's death for the pure fact that he or she is Christian, then I will wire you five dollars over Paypal.

 

Agh, ANOTHER defender of free speech ... so long as its ONLY his own. Sigh.

 

Yeah, that does sound 'threatening,' huh?!

The proper banner for atheists would be a 'blank' one.

Or possibly, "When we die, we die. (and then the world will be a better place)"

Or, "We're boors who want to ruin the season for the majority."

Whatya think?

 

Excuse me? I am a big believer in free speech. Just because I believe that religious billboards of all types are annoying as hell does not mean that I want them BANNED. I just want people to be considerate enough to keep religion in the churches, mosques, synagogues, and temples, and for both atheists and theists to make their points in reasoned debate rather than billboard ramblings.

 

Ahh, sarcasm. So, you can't think of one, can you? You admit that your standards for atheists are unreachable and are higher than those you have for Christians?

 

OK, then, how about: "Atheism: the belief in Self."

Doesnt sound threatening, nor is it unappropriate...

Since you put your trust in your self-reasoning. Maybe, "Merry Selfmas" then...

 

It's inaccurate and lame. If Christians can profess their belief that God is real, then atheists can profess their belief that Christians are wrong - and it's not being any more offensive or insulting.

 

Again, 'promoting' Christmas is different than 'attacking' a group of ppl & their beliefs! I'm afraid if you cant see the difference, you have been blinded by your ideology...me being a Christian and being tolerant of other beliefs, I wish you a Merry Selfmas....

 

Really? So excluding non-Christians is somehow beneficial?

 

Christmas is seen by many as being secular with all the presents and materialism involved; so, enjoy the season as a secularist, doing 'fun' things. Christmas doesnt exclude goat cheese, bread, and wine!

 

Okay, so how is promoting Christmas any different than promoting atheism?

 

lol

Contradictions amuse me.