Atheists Ruin Christmas in Santa Monica

This. I used to think religious folks were really pushy with their beliefs, but they don't hold a candle to atheists, hell at least the religious types are nice most of the time or pretend to be at first.

Most atheists I've encountered or close minded, angry and in your face, couple that with their "I'm atheist so I'm smart and logical attitude" and it's just too much.

 

Since 2+2=4 and you were told it was 5 wouldn’t you be closed minded to 2+2=5 also?

You become an atheist by studying science, then bible, etc. After you know and UNDERSTAND all the facts, then the only logical conclusion is that this god that religious folk speak of is just a lie.

Close minded? No, studied the evidence yes. Want me to believe in a myth, then show me the evidence...evidence no religious person has ever produced: proof of any god.

 

The Chrstians didn't steel anything. Paeganism is a loosely defined term. There where countless Paegan holidays. At least one for every day of the year. Had Christmas fallen on any other date, skeptics would still claim Christianity would still be blamed.

This has nothing to do with giving the holiday back to the Paegans. This has to do with a group of atheists taking pot shots at Christianity.

 

You need to learn your history buddy. Dec 25th was decleared this jesus christs birth by Pope Julius I, in the 4th century A.D. Thats right 4th CENTURY. This was done to coincide with the pagan rituals of Winter Solstice.

Also, Dec 25th is a pure astrological event:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-17BNU7L6g&feature=related"]Jesus and the Story of Horus - YouTube[/ame]

 

I'm not saying either side has got it right, though I tend to side with science on matters because of the whole scientific method stuff. With that being said though, it doesn't excuse rudeness and intolerance, that doesn't just go for the atheists either.

My only point is, "Hey, believe whatever you like, but leave me the **** alone about it. Thanks"

But you know what pal? Thanks for proving me right!

 

I see that all the time. The general assumption is that atheism = intelligence. Atheists actually seem to believe that.

 

Not so much intelligence, but willingness to use our brains and think for ourselves.

 

I would agree with you 100%. Problem is the religious do not understand that their rights end at my nose.

 

And visa-versa, but whatever. You, like everyone else should be able to do and believe as you please so long as it doesn't impact anyone else's right to do the same.

I know I'm painting with a broad brush, but atheists, especially those on the internet are the most in your face with their opinion, which oddly enough, as you've shown again, is their biggest issue with theists.

 

A YouTube video of Zeigeist is hardly proof of anything. He exaggerates the comparisons between Jesus and the mystery religions. The origins of Dec 25 as the date of Christmas can be traced back to historian Sextus Julius Africanus writing in the 3rd century.

 

Actually its not a vice-verse. I would not say that a christian does not have the right to worship their 'god', but the christians and the mormons did say that I do not have the right to marry whom I choose, all due to their myth.

Prop 8 was started by the ADF (a christian group of lawyers head quarters in Phoenix AZ) and (long story short) funded by the mormons.

Long story short, my 14th amendment rights are being violated because of religious beliefs.

So before you go says, and vice verse, perhaps you should see what the is actually being fought for and against.

And this is just one of many issues that religions people stick their noses into a national or state level that affect my life, whether I want it to or not.

 

Yet it shows how the christian mythology is strikingly similar to Horus (and many other myths), is more than one way, including the origins of Dec 25th (The supposed birthday of Horus).

 

I'm not going to argue with that, I'm a huge opponent of moral authoritarianism, which is what the things your talking about are.

However, that's not what this thread is about, nor what I'm discussing. In short, no; the rules for you are no different than anyone else. So I stick by my visa versa, two wrongs don't make a right.

 

Well, I've known a few, and know some now, personally, including my own grandpa.
He was a veteran of WW I and lost his faith during the War.

Still tho, he was an educated and courtly gentleman who showed great tolerance towards all, and was much too polite to mock others for their beliefs, or non-beliefs.

It's be nice to see more of that in everyday life, not just now, but all the time. I'm not singling out atheists or agnostics here.

Rudeness is across the board, I've found, sadly.

 

There are about a dozen different holidays in December, citing one as a motive to change Christmas is simply ridiculous.

 

So, how does one celebrate the winter solstace?

What are these holidays? How would one celebrate them?

 

December 5th – Ashura
December 6th – St. Nicolus Day
December 8th - Bodhi Day
December 8-16th – Hanukkah
December 12th – Virgin of Guadalupe
December 13th – Santa Lucia Day
December 16-25th – Las Posadas
December 25th – Yule
December 25th – Christmas
December 26th – Boxing Day
December 26th – Kwanza

Not everyone is Christian btw. There is not a vast conspiracy to change the name of Christmas either. Happy holidays is simply an inclusive term that includes everyone in the festivities, not just one religious group.

 

Atheists are people who hate God because Hell is waiting for them and they know it. They refuse to repent and to change their sinful life, instead of they pursue to abolish nothing else as God himself, a very stupid idea. Many of those are already possessed by Devil, e.g. Dawkins.

 

But most are, at least in the US, which is why Christianity gets special treatment.

If I make up Sadistic Savior day, should I expect everyone else to recognize and celebrate it? Gimme a break.

 

No, however is nothing wrong with inclusive greetings.

 

You have to understand that Nativity scenes are like holy water to the devil. If an atheist gets too close to one, their skin will catch on fire.

 

Oh, these are all holidays celebrated and recognized in Santa Monica? The Virgin of Guadalupe Day is big in Santa Monica? Solstace is big?

So, somewhere in the world, there are some other holidays during this period, so it is fine for an atheist group to buy all the space in a coordinated effort to block the expression of ONE of them - and then not display any of them?

:clap

Anything to excuse obvious excess. You see, once again, the atheists are actually the victims.

 

St. Nicolous, St. Lucia, Our Lady of Guadalupe, and Christmas are all Christian Holidays.

I am extremely skeptical about these atheists wanting to express their beliefs since they are not even residents of Santa Monica.

I am not talking about happy holidays. I have no problem with other people using the phrase. The only time I ever hear about anyone celebrating the Winter Solstace, it is always atheists. Once again, I am not implying that there is a vast conspiracy against Christmas. it may just be because the most annoying groups also happen to be the loudest.

 

It is not fair to flog one religion in a public place. Keep it private.

If you flog Christianity, what about having Islamic props at Ramadan?

 

No offense Mak, but freedom of expression is a protected right. Freedom from expression?

I have no problem with any religion, including atheism, expressing itself.

But to organize and deliberately block the expression of someone else's faith? That is kinda a low thing to do.

BTW - Having been in Muslim countries during Ramadan ... I found that it was not a problem in the slightest and felt no compunction whatsoever to run up a minaret tower and start ringing reindeer bells so everyone would know I was Christian.

People are allowed to express.

What exactly IS the atheist symbology? Because, quite frankly the solstance is not a holiday in the slightest, unless of course atheists have suddenly gone Pagan on us?

That was fine? Needed an atheist organization to block out everyone else?

And atheists hate it when Christians are demonstrative of their faith? What exactly is this?