Attempting to understand Islam

You're 49? Are you sure that shouldn't read '9'? What an infantile post.

 

Pretty much like the situation of many Catholica and Protestants in Northern Ireland and Glasgow.

 

Palestine was a province of Syria.
The nations of Israel are Syrian.
Abraham was a Syrian.
Isaac's wife was Syrian,
Jabob's 4 wives were Syrian.
And, Jacob/Israel covenanted with Laban (Syria) that his children belonged to Syria. See covenant between Israel and Laban in Genesis 31.

Furthermore, Semites are descendants of Shem which includes most of Europe, the Americas, and other nations.

So how an anti-Christs descended from Japheth truly claim to be Israel, the Chosen People and Semites?

 

I asked you a question and you haven't been able to give a straight answer. That's not a wise thing to do in a thread about Muslim deception.

 

Sour grapes is a poor excuse for refusing to answer a question directly.

 

Air travel would be much safer. Western female journalists would be far safer too.

 

What does my age have to do with anything?

The protests are a response to a video insulting our Prophet (pbuh), hence the protests being directed at Muhammad (pbuh) and not Allah SWT. They didn't insult Allah SWT (who is the same God as that of Christians and Jews by the way, not just "our God"), therefore the protests are not about Allah SWT being insulted.



And I have seen some of the things you have posted numerous times from the same people who clearly had no intention of understanding anything about Islam unless it fit their negative view of it. Yes, I could be wrong about you're intentions, but I am suspicious nonetheless.

Regardless of my or your age.

 

We should differentiate between militant groups and militia groups.

The militant groups are the ones which have no -or little - religious tolerance (or much tolerance of anything) and are the ones who often blow themselves in crowded market places.

However I find the militia groups aren't as extreme. For example, Hezbollah welcomed the Pope to Lebanon. I'm sure al-Qaida would have tried to assassinate him.

I see the militant groups as more extreme militia groups, aa usually that is how they start out.


As for Sunni-Shia relations, I think more religious and political figures need to start preaching unity between the two. Stop the sectarian violence, hatred, and ignorance by both sides.

That said, certain world powers benefit greatly from the division among the sects. It's a very good political tool.

 

and an excellent way to sell weapons

 

Why not, Cassandrabandra just has for example.

Very easy just as it is was with the video "Innocence of Muslims" but very many Muslims seem oblivious to that. Strange you haven't remarked on that if you realise how easy it is.

Why don't you find pro Islamic sites equally suspect?

 

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You're joking, right?

 

Abu Sina is correct. Islam's meaning in the Arabic language is "submission".

 

Nope:

Lewis, Barnard; Churchill, Buntzie Ellis. Islam: The Religion and The People. Wharton School Publishing. 2009. pp. 8.

http://books.google.com/books?id=IV...page&q=surrender to will of God islam&f=false

Read it here.

 

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"not a man made ideology"

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Nonsense. The man was never known to have as much as handled a sword, let alone use one violently. And, also from Matthew

Matthew 26
Now the betrayer had arranged a signal with them: “The one I kiss is the man; arrest him.” 49 Going at once to Jesus, Judas said, “Greetings, Rabbi!” and kissed him.

50 Jesus replied, “Do what you came for, friend.”[d]

Then the men stepped forward, seized Jesus and arrested him. 51 With that, one of Jesus’ companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear.

52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

 

Well, there had always been a sect of Christianity that stayed true to their Jewish ancestry. Even some of the Apostles opposed Paul's teachngs that the Old Testament was no longer needed. Many of the people you are talking about actually were Christians, it's just that the main stream denominations tend to not recognized Jewish Christians as true Christians, and so you get the assumption that they were Jews lying about being Christian to avoid punishment.

 

Yes indeed, a muslim could say that. Just as a christian could say the same thing. Or a jew.

Taqqiya is a long practiced allowance across many religions across history to avoid persecution, its natural so stop being so daft.

 

so what?

it doesn't change that he also said "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (Gospel of Matthew 10:34), the unscrupulous can misuse and quote that out of context just as much as you misuse what is in the Quran and quote it out of context.

 

Peter denied Christ 3 times.......

http://www.reformedonline.com/view/reformedonline/6 Peter Denies Christ Three Times.htm

 

Nonsense. It is a mataphor. Show me even one Christian in history misusing the verse to justify violence. The problem with the Koran is that the violence is literal. Muhammad spent half his life as a warrior conquering territory and establishing his rule over the land. His followers were commanded to continue doing so. Within 80 years of his death, Muslims were waging Jihad in Spain to the west and Afghanistan to the east. Even today we have the Muslim Brotherhood, governing Egypt with the motto "Allah is our objective; the Prophet is our leader; the Quran is our law; Jihad is our way; dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope." Continuing the literal interpretation of the Koran, emmulating Muhammad as they are instructed to do.

 

plenty of evidence of the violence of christians throughout the centuries, and plenty of military imagery in christianity.

it would be very easy to interpret the passage I quoted as an exhortation to violence, given the right circumstances.

 

As opposed to violence, dictated by Christian doctrine. The rule of the Catholic church was in spite of biblical doctrine. The rule of the Islamic Caliphate from the 630s to the 1920s was according to Islamic doctrine. Christian reformation eliminated the rule of the church. Islamic reformation fights to restablish the rule of the Islamic Caliphate

 

I don't think you uNderstand much about Islam.

 

There are no men is the sky, that are going to save you, or make things better or worse, for you.

No one is there.

No one is watching every moment of your personal life, such an idea is madness.

And a bit arrogant too, one elevates themselves to having some sort of special importance, that they can never die, which is really part of the natural life cycle, that they wish to deny.

You can save yourself, and you can help save others, you can impove or destroy your own society, all of that is up to real breathing people, not the whims of any of the thousands of gods, that have said to have existed, through all of time.

Grow up, mankind, stop wasting your one and only known life, and paying no attention to this beautiful planet, and making a true 'heaven on earth' here, while clinging onto the childish notion that YOU, are going to live in some sort of utopian afterlife.

This sort of thinking just holds as all back, as humans.

The three Abrahamic faiths, if they were placed on collective trial - would be banned, on the grounds of their long and bloody history, and the terrible things done, in that name of that religion.

It's a delusion, based on fables, that have been plagarised, from other fables.

It doesn't turn you into a better person, or a more intelligent person, or a more loving person.

You can be all three of those things, free from the ball and chain of supernatural folklore.

If you want a 'spiritual' element, of some sort, that may benefit you, meditate or take up Yoga.

 

Ive read the Koran and most of the most popular hadiths. I suspect youve done neither. Ive read dozens of writings by Islamic Scholars. My nephew speaks Arabic and helped research the Militant Ideology Atlas
http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/militant-ideology-atlas
which identifies who are the most influential Islamic writers among those muslims waging jihad against the US.
You simply couldnt come up with a rational response to my post, so you resort to such baseless claims. I suspect you dont know the first thing about Islam, and instead the sum entirety of your knowledge of Islam is based upon your aquaintences with a handful of muslims.