Autopsy of Freddie Gray shows 'high-energy' impact

I never called them racist. One of them was black ffs.
you've never heard of someone breaking their neck by going from a high speed to a low one very very fast? Such as what happens when you are unable to brace yourself during a swift deceleration of a motorvehicle moving at speed? Whiplash ringing a bell? Are you drunk or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFg7Jz6K-90 There happy?

 

So now whiplash = death?

 

If it lashes hard enough yeah. You're not so bright on physics eh?

Seriously why don't you go read the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing autopsy report?

 

No, I'm not so bright on the number of people who have died in the back of a police van....or even whiplash. I have never heard of a person having their neck severed, and that's what you guys called it, from whiplash, and I'm willing to bet thousands of people are rear ended every year and at pretty good speeds, too.

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=D...ical spine decapitation from whiplash&f=false


https://books.google.com/books?id=F...ical spine decapitation from whiplash&f=false


Read. Learn. Correct your ignorance.


As to police custody car injuries from rough rides? http://www.vox.com/2015/4/28/8509065/freddie-gray-baltimore-riots That's just baltimore's past. Its why they had the policy in place to BUCKLE THE PRISONERS IN.

 

Have we all continued to ignore the fact he suffered a massive deceleration injury prior to the van... when he was tackled by cops, and there was video of his limp body and head when he was being carried and put in the van... whats to say THIS deceleration injury is not the one that is the cause of the eventual death... and that any injuries that may have been obtained in the van would not have caused death, as he was already dying from the previous injury...

this is why none of them will be convicted... the medical examiners big mistake just gave plausible deniability and reasonable doubt for all 6 officers to point the finger at each other and not be able to nail any of them down in front of a jury of 12 where only 1 person has to believe the story...

sides... everyone keeps saying he was given a rough ride that caused this, I haven't seen evidence of this, in fact there is some evidence they did not for one portion of the trip, but a lack of evidence for the other parts does not equate guilt... past history of other officers, does not mean these officers can be held accountable for it... the district attorney has to PROVE they are guilty BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT... they don't have to prove they are innocent... and so far, everything I have seen, read, and heard, is making it an absolute gift for a defense attorney...

P.S. the real question we should ask, how much does the district attorney think she is going to get for her new book deal about this case... and how high are her aspirations in the democratic party with the spotlight hitting her...

 

I only read the last link, 4 injuries, no deaths. And how fast does a police van travel on city streets?

 

Read the other links. It'll be good for you.

When they're driving responsibly? About the speed limit. When they're (*)(*)(*)(*)ing with you? Considerably faster. You realize the case will turn on, at least partially, the speed of the vehicle right?

Do note the guy in the last link who was paralyzed. That's the sort of injury were talking about.

 

From what I've read in the past this guy was placed on the floor of the van and not on a seat. If that's the case, no whiplash.

 

Read. The. Autopsy. Report.
The coroner goes into quite a but of detail. It's posited that he attempted to rise into the seat. Either way you still might want to read up on the whiplash as it will give you a grounding in what happens to a human body when it decelerates excessively. You can then apply some of that new knowledge to help you understand the coroner's report. OK sport?

 

Yeah, it's a person's best guess to piece together something he didn't see.

 

This autopsy report that's been released.

Is it the full and complete autopsy report or just some of it?

 

Oh crap nevermind.

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The autopsy has not been made public, and the deadline for releasing evidence in the case to defense lawyers is Friday. A copy of the autopsy was obtained and verified by sources who requested anonymity because of the high-profile nature of the case.

The chief medical examiner, Dr. David Fowler, declined to comment, as did the defense attorneys for the officers, who said they have not received the autopsy.

 

Well, the man died of a broken neck, not whiplash... And imagine a sack of potatoes, if you have your hands and feed cuffed, you have no way to protect yourself. Put you on the floor of a van and drive around crazy and you will slide around with no protection and easily break your neck... which appears to be what happened.

This is such a common practice among police, there is a name for it, and there are multiple other instances of it in Baltimore...

So is your stance really that healthy people should be arrested, put in a van and then an hour later be bruised, bloodied and have a broken neck and that is acceptable? So death at the hands of the police is just fine and no problem in our society according to you, because well, the police should be able to do whatever they want without any consequences and responsibility..

 

Why is everyone forgetting that this guy had spinal surgery and wasn't even supposed to be on the street at the time?

 

It's not palm reading it's forensics. But then you didn't know whiplash could kill someone and probably haven't even read the op link.

 

Because it doesn't matter if the guy is an eggshell plaintiff if they behaved recklessly or negligently and it led to his death.

 

Always assuming, aren't ya? You're assuming I didn't do something just as the link in the OP made an assumption on what they didn't see.

Is it a FACT that the van ride killed this guy? Yes or no?

 

Because he didn't:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...pre-existing-spinal-injury-are-totally-bogus/

Is that the BS they are saying on conservative news?

 

OK, whatever. But let's do our own investigation.

I don't think you'd argue what has been said so far and that is:

Gray was so much out of it he had to be helped into the van
He was placed on the floor
His hands were cuffed behind his back
Fast and dangerous driving caused him to fall and break his neck

Anything there you wish to dispute? Good. Now let's continue.

So let's say you're now taking Gray's place, you can't even get into the van without help, you're on the floor with your hands cuffed behind you, the driver is making death defying maneuvers known to cause paralysis (as posted in this thread). So tell me, in that situation, how does a person manage to lift himself off the floor high enough to get whiplash? Ever been cuffed with your hands behind your back? I have. Now get down on the floor and see how hard it is to get up and then try to do imagine doing that in a van you guys are describing as a rollercoaster ride and then imagine you've already been pretty messed up before you even got in the van.

 

That's a question for the trier of fact, the jury, to decide. What you see on the op is from the coroner's report. Well have to wait for trial for the totality of the facts.

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That's a question for the trier of fact, the jury, to decide. What you see on the op is from the coroner's report. Well have to wait for trial for the totality of the facts.

 

I can agree with that.

 

You missed that they stopped a few times, once to pick up a guy, once to shackle the legs, other times etc.

Push your ass up, draw your knees up, rock, and sit up. Once up lean against one of the benches and try to stand. Hit a hard turn and some deceleration at the wrong point in that process and you'll fall. Put enough force into the equation and you've got a dead guy.

 

No. There's no way I'd do that. If the police are driving erratically and I don't know when they're going to stop and start and I'm in the situation Gray is in, I'm just going to lay there and wait.

 

It all adds up and eventually the load is too much to bare and it will all come crashing down into an all out race war