Best home defense weapon

Discussion in 'Firearms and Hunting' started by Think for myself, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that were the case, they wouldn't be there when you were. If someone breaks in, knowing you are there, or unconcerned about whether or not you are there, you are in danger.

    Yes, security systems are pretty easy to get around... and unless the home invader plans on moving in, depending on where you live, it wouldn't matter if the police are "on their way".

    Just cutting the lines at the NIB, and any cable lines renders most systems useless. Takes a couple of seconds. That, and one of these $39 jobs
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    And nobody is coming to rescue you.

    Shotgun.
     
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    Your Wife.
     
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    Ithaca model 37 in Riot Configuration with Bayo Lug.
     
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    My grandma reads Reader's Digest, and one day I looked into one. One of the articales they had was "13 things your home invader won't tell you." One point they made was that, they already have a target in mind, they scouted out the place asking for work a couple of days earlier. Since burglarly is all about time, they just want to get in and out as fast as possible.
     
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    Then, again, 1... you won't be there. 2, burglary is not the only reason for home invasion.

    Creating a complete communications blackout takes literally 5 seconds. If you are willing to do harm, there is no time to run out of.
     
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    I'm thinking that burglarly is going to be a big reason why someobdy breaks into your house.

    Do you think the average home invader is going to know how to do that?
     
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    Takes less than a minute to think about.

    Alarms can make noise, and or call someone. noise doesn't typically attract attention. When you hear a car or house alarm, do you call the cops?

    An alarm can only communicate in the ways we can. Phone, internet, or cell.
    Pretty much all internet enters a house over a phone line, or coaxial cable. Cell jammer isn't tough to google.
     
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    I'm thinking more for a regular person. Cell jammers go for hundreds of dollars. Most people aren't going to be able to afford one, and that amount of money is going to be traceable.

    http://www.kumaar.com/Jammers/Jammers.htm
     
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    My M&P .45 is my primary, I have a M4 style carbine as secondary (second from right). I have completed several self-defensive course, my CCW class, defense inside the home, and defense outside the home. As of this moment, that M&P .45 has 800rds. through it, no cleaning, and not a single failure to speak of. Not clean ammo either, the dirty TulAmmo.

    A fine firearm.
     
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    Remind me, never to peeve you off.
     
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    Those numbers include the deaths of criminals, engaged in criminal behaviors. Nothing but a ploy by the gun control advocates to make people think they are more likely to be shot while pointing a gun at someone else.
     
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    Unless they harm or kill your dogs. Then that plan sort of goes down the drain.
     
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    Hey you can spin it all you want...I'm a gun owner myself...but stats don't lie.


     
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    I am sure they can. No system that costs a couple hundred dollars is perfect.
     
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    They kill my mastiff and I will really be pissed
     
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    Sure they do... but that isn't the point.

    Is it your suggestion that you should not be "allowed" to decide when or how you die?

    Most of those suicides are by people over 65... of that majority, most are over 70... and so on.

    I prefer to address suicide and self defense on their own terms. In terms of self defense, more people are safer having a gun in the home. One of my inventions was a silent biometric gun safe. A loaded gun with safety off in your hands in seconds, in the dark, without alerting the perpetrator to your level of alertness or location, or allowing your kids access.

    The second reason I vote shotgun has to do with the fear factor and my only real life home invasion scenario. The sound of me loading a shell (pump) ran them out of the house. I didn't have to actually kill anyone. The noise is a bit of a deterrent... and everyone recognizes it.
     
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    The scariest weapon is the shotgun. There is just something about staring down the barrel of a shotgun that would make its target loosen its anal sphincter.

    If you have a pistol or even a rifle you had better know how to use it. If you have a shotgun, all you have to do is point in the general direction of the target and pull the trigger. Since most houses are less than forty feet in any direction, a twelve gauge will pepper any perp.

    The noise from a twelve gauge is also enough to cause the target to soil himself. It is much louder than either the average pistol or rifle.

    If I'm hunting deer, I want one of my rifles. If I am outside, I want my snub nosed 38. If I am in my house, I want my Remington 12 gauge.
     
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    Any decent over and under 12 gauge shotgun for all of the obvious reasons. Me personally, I don't have a gun ATM but I have various tools scattered around the house in strategic places. Sword in one place, hunting knife in another, tazer somewhere else, baseball bat over there, hammer right under that place. ;)
     
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    Shotguns are not fool proof, you can still easily miss with a shotgun.
     
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    I mean yeah if you're retarded but why would you even say that?
     
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    I find your statement ironic considering the stats are a spin themselves.

    Its common knowledge that you can manipulate statistics to proof a particular point. In this case, those responsible for the figures include the deaths of criminals, engaged in criminal activities. So unless you consider yourself a criminal, and engage in criminal activates, the factoid is completely irrelevant.
     
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    Because its obvious? The spread of buckshot at five yards is minimal, around 6". Thats a relatively small area that requires some aiming to hit at close ranges.
     
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    I used to own a 12 gauge and I never missed a target. Of course it requires some aiming but I think people that feel the need to mention that just overall have poor hand-eye coordination or something unfortunate like that.
     
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