Biden needs to issue an EO to deal with the crisis

I don’t recall saying they can’t live their lives the way they see fit. What I’m saying is we shouldn’t be putting these people on pedestals, make heroes out of, or worse, role models.

I personally don’t care about Mulvaney cutting his junk off, I don’t care about the 50+ year old man identifying as a seven year old girl, I don’t care about the woman who thinks she’s a cat, and so on, just don’t tell me or impressionable kids it’s normal to the point they want to do it.

I’m told by someone on this board the number of T people is infinitesimal, then why the need to push this garbage on grade school kids? For lack of a better word it’s called grooming.

 

Yesterday I saw a story about some man or woman who tried to blind him/herself with Draino or bleach by pouring in her eyes and did so because of transabliism or whatever it’s called. Are you guys going to start calling that normal, teach it in classrooms, make it fashionable and trendy, or put this person’s face on a beer can?

this guy is just as sick as any tranny out there because he’s essentially doing the same thing they are.

 

What pedestal? Who is putting them there? And why does the fact that some get attention bother you? You can't claim one yet say the other.

I thought it was the fact that she kept her junk that irks you. Interesting. Tell me, how would you know if a trans woman, especially one post opt, is a trans unless they told you?

Now you're just regurgitating some right-wing rag.

Pushing your fantasies? This is pure nonsense. Time and again, this "push" is by your media that's shepherding you to stay tuned to the same bat channel.

 

Change the effing channel!!!

 

Now, getting back to the topic of the thread; would the idea of creating a national cooling-off period to cover this summer sound like a compromise the GOP would accept?

 

There's a difference between acknowledging a problem, and calling it a crisis. One is more realistic than the other.

 

Do a search for the guy named in the below quote.

To 52-year-old Paul Wolscht, a Canadian mechanic with a wife and seven children, who has transitioned into Stefonknee Wolscht, a six-year-old girl in frilly dresses who lives with adoptive parents and spends her time playing with their grandchildren.

 

Dude, anyone anywhere can get a gun, even illegal aliens ad convicted felons, the left makes their bread and butter with that argument. All you would be doing is stopping lawful American citizens from getting guns.

Just remember, Obama and O’Rourke got awards for being the salesmen of the year for gun manufacturers. Might you be expecting a different result the third time around?

 

You're framing an all or nothing argument.

 

Yeah those trans women are real hard to identify post op...

 

Everyone with a brain does. Why is it that everything that the Left wants to do, is unconstitutional? As much as you would like to have the Soros prosecutors and the Leftwing felon friendly politicians disarm the law abiding citizens while you empty the prisons so that illegally armed felons can prey on the law abiding, you can't.

The formation of the Federal Government was dependent on the recognition that the Government cannot disarm law-abiding citizens, to the great disappointment of the wannabe Left Wing Authoritarians.

If you really want to see fewer illegal homicides, and I realize that you do not seem to, demand that existing laws be enforced against the illegally armed felons that commit nearly all the illegal homicides in the US.

'Only a tiny fraction of U.S. counties account for nearly all of the country’s homicides.'

'The worst 5% of counties accounted for 73% of homicides. Meanwhile, 52% of counties recorded no homicides in 2020, and another 16% recorded only a single killing.'

There are 3,143 counties in the US.

You want to disarm all 3,143 counties rather than disarm the illegally armed in the 5% of counties where violent crime is concentrated. Does that make sense? Yes, if you understand that you don't actually give a damn about violent crime, but, you really want to disarm your political opponents over whom you wish to exert unconstitutional control.

'“Mass shootings” are almost always gang members shooting gang members.'

Soros Prosecutors:
“It’s primarily in those heavily urban areas where you’re having the most lax approaches to crime on average, and that’s where we’re seeing the biggest increases.”

Crime Prevention Research Center.

 

No, it's not a 'compromise', it's unconstitutional.

 

I'm not the one looking to eviscerate the separation of powers and overtake the autonomy of the legislature through outward sedition. Which other major components of the Constitution are you demanding we pretend no longer exist for your political expediency? Which other branches of government do you want to have overthrown and controlled by another? The President doesn't have the authority to take over the legislative work of Congress. Let's slow down the fascism here and try to address this problem maturely.

 

I literally thought this thread was about the border crisis. I guess i should have known better.

 

Hah, I thought so when I saw the title as well. Then I was shocked to see someone saying the President should violate the Constitution with an Executive Order and try to tie it up in the courts for as long as possible, knowing full well that it's illegal. He is saying he wants the President to take over for Congress and over-exert his Constitutional authority by ceasing power over the legislature. Sounds like a seditious insurrectionist.

 

Oh man that made me laugh so hard.

 

This is not within the power of the president. Its not within the power of congress either, as that would be unconstitutional.

 

This is a problem for gun owners like myself. The carnage continues, and absolutely nothing is done. It will reach a boiling point and then the government will hit us with very strict bans, which gun owners will hate. That could be avoided by enacting certain measures (not bans), which are supported by 80-87% of Americans including majority of gun owners.

When they bans hit us, it will be the fault of those who opposed any and all suggestions to reduce the problem.

 

Do nothing?

Government can't do anything.

Governments have tried passing laws and signing legislation to stop all kinds of things, and guess what? They never stop.

The immediate reaction to turn to government and scream "fix this" is a false narrative. It NEVER works. And the attempts to make it work, often observable in our Democrat urban areas are proof positive it doesn't work.

What government CAN do, which the left never wants to talk about is address the underlying issues that lead to violence specifically gun violence. The failure to support the concept of a nuclear traditional family, remove people from society that don't want to follow the rules, and address mental health illness to make it more accessible and inclusive.

The government could issue legislation, EO, anything TODAY that says "All guns are now illegal" and NOTHING would change. Lines of mentally ill people, gang members, and even responsible gun holders are not going to show up and turn in their weapons. Thinking they will is just naive wishful thinking.

We need to address the disease, not the symptom.

 

Nobody on the right started the whole trans thing.

Transgender people have been around a long time. Nobody cares.

The left, like they always do, identified a segment of the population representing a percent of a percent of people and starting pushing the same 'ole narrative that they are being marginalized or not afforded the same freedoms as everybody else.

You really think Republicans just stood up one random day and said "I shall not call her a him!"

Of course not. They said that in response to "We demand you call her a him!" which came from the left... along with a host of other demands forced on other people to cater to their victim class needed and used for votes.

 

Because most of the "somethings" being proposed are less than useless. Most of the killings are not some loonie-tune getting a hair up his but and popping off with a "AR-style rifle"; Rifles account for less than 10% of gun murders. The vast majority are handguns, usually illegal or stolen and usual employed by criminals.

I won't get into the current trend of District Attorneys morphing into social workers who lower the a career criminal's dhcarge to a misdemeanor and releasing him on hie own recognizance.

IF we want to lower gun deaths we have to attack the right problems.

 

Same old movie.

 

It's about the kids. Har, har

 

No.

 

Does someone care to define what number quantifies a crisis?

In a country of at least 320 million there is roughly 400 million guns.

Can someone do the math and tell me exactly how many of those 400 million guns are being criminally misused?

You're going to need a number that looks something like this 0.00000001 %

I hardly think it constitutes a " crisis ".

Democrats love to portray the exceedingly rare public random mass shooting as such because it makes good publicity but there have been far more numbers of shootings that are gang related taking place every single day in this country for decades and suddenly now it's a crisis.