Billionaire Harlan Crow BOUGHT PROPERTY From JUSTICE THOMAS. The Justice DIDN'T DISCLOSE

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Irrelevant, because I'm not the one losing my marbles about Thomas.
     
  2. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah? And?
     
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    On your second point, Sen. Murphy is my 2nd favorite, of Connecticut's current Senators. I give him points for some things, like his attempts to lead, on reasonable gun regulation. But he did not start off, making a good impression with me, because of the way his office handled constituent feedback; I received a form letter on the very general topic, which did not address my email, at all. He clearly had some aides just categorizing all voter correspondence, as being about, for example, guns, or health care, or one of assorted other topics. And, based on your category, everyone received any one of a dozen or so corresponding, prewritten replies.

    You might be thinking that expecting a personalized response, showing that Murphy had actually read my letter-- as opposed to his only seeing it represented by its basic subject category, added into a raw statistical breakdown-- is unreasonable, on my part. My reply would be, first, that Murphy was only my 5th District Representative, at that time; and second, both of my actual Senators (who, of course, had far more constituents), clearly had read my emails, and responded specifically to my thought-- even the one, who was trying to pull the wool over my eyes, Senator Joe Lieberman.

    This was a while back, but I had been making a case for giving Medicare the ability to negotiate drug prices. Senator Lieberman gave lip service to my cost cutting goal, in his response, but then went to the straw man argument, that his top concern was the safety of our pharmaceuticals, so he did not think it worth the savings, to get drugs of dubious quality, & possessing the risk of contaminants, from some under-developed country in South America (which, of course, had not been at all what I'd been suggesting). While I was sure this was a snow job, I wrote back, explaining that I had actually been talking about the exact same drugs, we currently use, by the same manufacturers, who do sell those more cheaply, in countries that negotiate prices. Lieberman obviously read that one, as well, which is why he didn't write back: he knew the jig was up, and that I was not going to be happy with his position, no matter how he tried to sell it.
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    Then junior, Senator Blumenthal, also wrote back, telling me that they actually had tried to introduce this very idea, in the prior session, and were hoping to be able to try again. Murphy's form letter, on the other hand, did not mention the negotiation idea, which had been the whole point of my communication, as I had thought it was a new suggestion, I was promoting.

    After this, when Murphy became a Senator, I also noted that he seemed overly focused on self-promotion; it seemed there wasn't any occasion, for which he was not ready to appear in a live interview, with an MSNBC correspondent, at the Capitol. Together with my letter experience, it gave me the impression that he was more concerned with image, over substance. That said, I do believe he has grown into the job, and seems to really apply himself to it, as well as to understand the issues. He actually does a thing every year, in which he supposedly walks the length of the state, talking to voters, at their homes. I don't think he literally walks the whole way, though. While it's laudable, if he is trying to stay in touch with the voters, I can't put aside the idea that he also does this as a P.R. event. I'll just end with saying, I think he's still on the young side; that is, he would probably benefit from a bit more aging.




    * I should still have a saved copy of Lieberman's email reply, as well as Representative Murphy's and Senator Blumenthal's, if you would be interested in making a comparison.
     
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    Imagine Soros gave Sotomayor yearly luxury vacations and upgraded her home for free. What would your reaction be?
     
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    They never had their thumb on the scale of justice, that’s not true. That’s simply a politically biased left wing view. The lefts corruption is astounding.
     
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    I never do. The truth matters.
     
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    It seems other governments have something to teach America about democracy I.e. Australia

    https://www.aspg.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Commonwealth-oversight-arrangements.pdf

    Drop the partisanship because holding government officials accountable is everyone’s responsibility
     
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    They still have and want to have their thumbs on the scales of justice, it's what corrupt Trump Party politicos and appointees do because they think they are righteous.....the Trump Party, Crow and "bent over" Clarence are the definitions of corrupt.
     
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    Both are present. And the context is what the entire conversation was about. Trump more or less felt he deserved to win because of his claims(untrue of course, which he knew, since he made it up) of all the voter fraud and felt Brad Raffensperger should help him achieve that win by doing whatever was necessary to alter the official vote results in Georgia. More specifically to the quotes I used, he wanted Brad to find more votes or to recalculate the results. He wanted Brad to change the results in some way so that he could win Georgia.

    Trump did this because he was furious and probably a bit out of his mind. The only way he was able to reconcile himself with what happened is by creating the stolen election fantasy narrative and clinging to it. As we all can unfortunately see, the reconciling is still ongoing.
     
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    Well, you obviously have much more experience with him than I do. All I can say is from his frequent appearances on MSNBC, that he appears knowledgable on many topics, but speaks like a regular guy. He answers questions as I would. Maybe putting on airs will come with more "aging", but I hope not.

    Yeah, he's young, but he's 2 years older than Obama was in 2008. People seem to be clamoring for younger leadership and he would qualify...
     
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    As long as the full context of the conversation is presented, it's obvious that Trump never said anything remotely close to what you claim.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    I'm all for holding government officials accountable. What I'm not for, are "oversight" boards, loaded with partisan hacks that only hold some government officials accountable.

    Congressional Democrats want Thomas to be flogged, but have ignored illegal conduct committed by Congressional Democrats.

    When Congress cleans up its own dirty laundry, then it can bitch about what Supreme Court justices are doing.

    We have a system and circumventing that system for political reasons isn't "democracy".

    You do understand how our governmental system works. Right?
     
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    Then you're working off of an entirely different event and transcript than the real world is. I should have pointed out that my comments are relevant only in the real world and may not apply elsewhere.
     
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    You're taking the conversation out of context.
     
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    Lost in the insanity that was coming from 1 end of that phone call, was one of the best, simplest, refutations by the SOS of every ridiculous claim being made...

    SNIP
    Well Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong.
    ENDSNIP

    If only Mango had had somebody around him who could have communicated that BEFORE the phone call (or after... since he didn't learn it during)....
     
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    Response from a non-partisan sane person;

    The following connections don’t bother me as long as they haven’t broken any laws/rules;

    1. Crow-Thomas connection
    2. Brag-Soros connection
    3. Merchan-Biden connection
    4. Merchan’s daughter-Biden/Harris connection
     
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    And the left's true agenda comes out. Fundamentally, you guys do not like the Constitution, you do not like restraints on government, you think government should have the power to do, literally anything, including violate people's rights to life, liberty, and property, the Bill of Rights only impedes your desires, and when someone, perhaps this court of originalists, which is NOT a left or right position, might actually start enforcing the thing onto our already so very extra-Constitutional government.

    Most of what it does is without the Constitutional authority it requires to do it, but the politicians and judiciary have ignored that for so long now, they have completely forgotten that things like the Department of Education (to pick just one of many at random) lacks any Constitutional authority to even exist, much less do anything.

    You have the ATF defining things as 'machineguns', when that job is Congress', and cannot be pawned of onto an agency that also has no Constitutional authority to exist.

    Our government is supposed to be very small, but sadly, it is not. I hope these guys will fix that before they retire or die, because it may be the last chance the USA has to return to it's roots for many more generations. 'A republic, madam, if you can keep it', was what Benjamin Franklin said to a woman who asked what they had given us, but I fear we have long since lost it. Oh, we still have the same structure, the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches that are supposed to check and balance each other, but all they do is spend our great-great-grandkid's money like they're all going to be Elon Musk clones.

    The whole thing is out of control and has been for a very, very, very long time. And you want to eliminate the last line of defense, because you don't like the very foundation and roots of the country. Shamefully, you are not alone.
     
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    Better do it quickly while there is a liberal administration.
     
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    The connections by themselves don't bother me at all. Any law, or constitutional violations bother me.
     
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    Good!

    By the way, the selection and appointment of judges have long been partisan, Republicans wanting a conservative judge, Democrats wanting a liberal judge.
     
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    Getting back to my inquiry above. I won't be hearing from Thomas because according to my source below, his removal is a nonstarter.

    Sorry everyone, but Clarence Thomas can take undisclosed money from whomever he wants and there is little to be done about it (msn.com)




     
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    Hopefully Soros starts giving luxury vacations to judges everywhere
     
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    I'm guessing Sonia, Elena,and KBJ won't be satisifed with a mosquito festival up in the deep Adirondacks either.. I'm thinking more Switzerland or Paris action....
     
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    Why stop there? Start buying the conservative leaning members of court also. The only way the extremist right will do anything is if it affects their bottom line.
     
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    Not always true.... There are genuine zealots out there (see cowboy judge in Amarillo, who probably didn't get a penny for that disgrace)

    Also, they probably won't take money or stuff directly from Mr. Soros... so even if he used a cutout, I don't know how you'll get them to start ruling his way once or a while.

    First step is to get DiFi out of there so we can resolve the logjam of Biden judges..... Mitch wouldn't have hesitated to put full pressure on a weak link in the chain...
     

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