Birth Right and Race Reparations for Slavery

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Again, no Celt in the last hundreds of years couldn't possibly have married someone with blue eyes? You DO remember that we're talking about people TODAY having Celtic ancestry right?

    All you're doing is playing sophistry. Trying to excuse the fact that blacks sold other blacks into slavery.
     
  2. Jolly Penguin

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    I am pretty certain that Joe here did no such thing. And he isn't responsible for what others who had the same skin tone did.

    The OP argument specifically avoids that racist argument. It looks to nation (which still exists) and not individuals.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Look up Babylon. You say you're a "student of history". Shouldn't be hard for you.
     
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    Huh, had no idea that all historians practiced white supremacy. :rolleyes:
     
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    Really, I actually thought Joe was Edward colston and was in fact 150, the oldest man in the world.

    Thanks for the grate advice
     
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    The white ones do (99% of them anyway)
     
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    I've proven that whites invented RBCS. It's your burden to prove some invented it before whites in USA. That's not my job to "look up Babylon" and read about sodomites.
     
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    Then they wouldn't be a Celt if the are half Saxon. Think.

    I've just admitted that yes, black princes captured black Portuguese at the request of white Portuguese kings.

    Not sure why you're being so contrary.
     
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    Even if so, so what? No white person alive today was in any way involved.
     
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    They would have a celt ancestor, which was the point. Just as some descendants of American black slaves are visibly white now.
     
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    Interesting analogy, because we don't punish his children (assuming they exist) for his being a cannibal now do we? Actually, whether or not they exist is irrelevant, because they would not be held accountable for his actions under any circumstances, unless they were actually complicit in them. Just as it's improper to accuse someone born 200 years after something awful happened of having any responsibility for that awful event.
     
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    You claim you've "proven" whites invented it...yet have not provided a single link....yet you're demanding it from me. :rolleyes: Ironic much? Provide your own proof first. Shouldn't be hard. "first instance of chattel slavery" By the by...did you know the first KNOWN instance of chattel slavery was actually in Ancient Egypt?
     
  13. Joe knows

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    Maybe you can quote the two posts and highlight the answers because I feel the OP does not answer them all.
     
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    You really don't like it when someone tries to tell you your belief system is just wrong, do you? I worship no man, and no non-man, as for government, I'm a closet anarchist who sees government as a necessary evil, but still evil. I strongly oppose the idea of government even mandating that I wear pants, much less a facial covering, and I will get, or not get, any booster or drug or substance that I choose to use or not use.

    But I've been beyond death, I've seen at least the smallest bit of what exists 'out there', and it's not what our parent's books say. I would say sorry, but it's actually good news, because it means it's all a new adventure.
     
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    You used to say chattel slavery was invented by whites and that was proven false, so you added race based lol. Anyway, there is no way to prove whites created race based slavery at all. There were conquering countries from all over the world that enslaved those they conquered since the Dawn of time. Other races conquered other races forever. The idea we started it is asinine and frankly ignorant of historical happenings
     
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    Maryland state archives state that all black skin ppl are to be given natural death (slave for life). Are you disputing this fact?
     
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    It depends if his children are still feeding off of the body parts in the basement, doesn't it..
     
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    I’ll say it again. We payed for their freedom with our blood. Family lines were lost to free them. That was the payment and we owe blacks absolutely nothing for slavery.
     
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    It's just a statement. I'm glad someone gets it
     
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    Are you even serious with this bullshit? Chattel slavery existed for centuries, if not millenia before the USA was even a dream in it's Founder's eyes. As you are probably aware, some of them wanted to do away with it at the time the Constitution was being written, but they were realistic enough to realize that by insisting on that as a prerequisite of being a member State, there would be no USA. At best, two separate nations would have formed on the land presently known as the USA, and it's impossible to know where history would have taken those. Would they have united? Would slavery still exist in the 21st century? There's no way to know, naturally, just as we could only speculate as to what the world would be like had Hitler been allowed to control all or most of Europe without being defeated, and his '3rd Reich' (though I was never totally clear on what the first and second were) might still exist as he has fantasized. By now he would be long dead either way, from some stories it seems he had one foot in the grave even at the time, but what would either of those hypothetical legacies have been? Nothing good, I would think.
     
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    No, the point was that pure Brythonic Celts have brown, green eyes. Anything else is impure mixed with savages from the north
     
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    R u for real?look at the post I responded to. READ IT. IT SAYS RBCS. GET IT NOW?
     
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    Please clarify what you mean by chattel slavery and why it is worse than regular slavery.

    It's easy enough to have misunderstandings when the precise meaning of the words are known and misunderstandings are even more likely when a key word is ambiguous .

    Thanks,
     
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    I'm fairly certain I covered that when I said assuming they were not complicit, did I not?

    I think the best summary of this entire debate I've ever seen was a picture I saw somewhere online... I wish I had thought to save it, but I did not, but it was a Japanese infant, of indistinct gender who was so young that he or she wouldn't even be speaking basic 'mama, dada' phrases. And the superimposed question was something to the effect of, "Is this person responsible for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 21, 1941?"

    Obviously the answer is no, just as it is for babies born even as far back as 150 years ago from now with regards to slavery in the USA. For those of us still alive, as the hypothetical 150 year ago baby would not be, it is so far removed from anyone's responsibility that even entertaining the discussion is preposterous.

    But, yeah, I forgot, I'm a white supremacist. Blah, blah.
     
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    There was chattel slavery in the Middle East before whites were known to have done it
     

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