Boy Scout leader arrested for; guess what to little boys?

What is it you claim the numbers mean SEC?

The conclusion you are PRETENDING not to make has been debunked

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Do you think either of you are fooling anyone?

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Debunked

 

Flat out proven lie.

Pedophilia and homosexuality are not related. Social norms have nothing to do with attraction

 

Proven true repeatedly. Thats why you all go to such great links to argue that these men who have sex with children of the same sex are not homosexuals.

 

Nope. Proven lie.............

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

 

Actually you just proved it true and evidently not bright enough to realize.

 

never been debunked unless of course you subscribe to the concept that male/female is not heterosexual and male/male or female/female is not homosexual

 

Uh, my link specifically called bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on your claim. Unless you think this..........

Somehow means the complete opposite of what it says.

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Completely debunked.

 

I did point out you were not bright enough to realize. I made no assertions as to gynephiles, androphiles, homosexuals or heterosexuals. LIKE I SAID, men who have sex with people of the same sex are more likely to molest children compared to men who do not. REGARDLESS of what you want to call them.

 

Proven lie

 

Or maybe men who molest children are more likely to target boys.

 

Which is also false. Girls are the vast majority of victims of child molestation

 

Child molesters aren't natural like spiders are. Non sequitur.

Source that claim. It certainly keeps guns out of the hands of violent criminals better than gun control does. Three strikes laws have done great things in lowering violent crime rates. People like you want to punish everybody for the crimes of the few. Nice try, it won't fly.

 

the phrase you continue to dodge is "homosexual molestation" which by the very nature, is same sex molestation. You then wish to continue that one who engages in homosexual sex is not a homosexual. That would be like claiming that one who eats beef is a vegan.

 

Which is not the point by a long shot.
Gay men are much more likely to offend by pedophilia than straight men. Trying to obfuscate the facts does nothing for your argument.

 

the argument is one based on semantics. When the facts do not look good, change the definition of the words. it all depends on your definition of "is"

this is what we get from the left who wish to condone perverse and bad behavior

[video=youtube;Y3KCEpzAcCg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3KCEpzAcCg[/video]

 

I'm gonna rephrase that: More likely to molest boys than their sexual orientation in their "adult" sex life suggests.

But it's like talking to a wall anyway.

So you see the problem, but you are unable to apply it to your own arguments.
What you are dodging is the fact that many "homosexual child molesters" (to play along with your preferred terminology) have heterosexual relationships with adult women.
The question has been asked a couple of times and I'll ask again: Would a man who lives an open homosexual life, but secretly molests girls be hetero- or homosexual?

 

Nothing you posted has any relevance to what you quoted

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Debunked

 

That would be false. Men molest 2 girls for every 1 boy.

 

The problem is in the assertion that those 8 million adults and ONLY those 8 million adults are responsible for those acts of pedophilia. Where is your proof of this? Where is your proof that none of the remaining 220 million adults (your numbers) who claim or are assumed to have a heterosexual orientation are responsible for NO acts of homosexual pedophilia?

Even if we skew the numbers massively in your favor, yours is still a very difficult position to support.

If we assume that 10% of that 8 million (a ridiculously high number I'm using just to illustrate a point) commit one offense that's 800,000 cases. If just 2% of the remaining 220 million commit just one offense that's four million four hundred thousand cases.

Even if only one half of one percent of those 220 million commit one offense that's 1,100,000 a significant increase over the LGBT group even using figures heavily designed to help your claims.

I'm sure you can see this. What I don't get is why you keep pretending that you can't or refusing to see it even when it's laid out plain and simple?

Still, every accredited medical and social science in the western world can see it and none of the groups cooking up your kinds of figures ever come to court to present them so I suppose that's what really matters?

 

Of the men who molest children what percentage of them molest boys?

 

estimated 3 million annual cases of pedophilia
survey taken of a group of pedophiles 60% heterosexual, 40% homosexual (liberal uc davis study btw)
220 million adults engage in heterosexual sex Gallup poll 96.6% adults are heterosexual
8 million adults engage in all other deviant sexual methods Gallup poll 3.4% adults are every other deviant lifestyle

use the census figures for adults in the USA and away you go

the math is simple and not very complicated. It is the supporters of homosexual pedophiles who refuse to discuss the numbers.

So which is it? Are you bad at math or do you support pedophiles?

 

In their orientation to children. It says nothing about their orientation to adults or whether they would self-report as hetero or homo in a survey relating to adults or if they have any such orientation at all.

But they are not asked if they are ALSO pedophiles or, if they are, does their orientation to children coincide EXACTLY with their orientation to adults (if they have such an orientation. Many do not many are repulsed by sex with adults).

3.4% as in LGBT or do you think the study asks "are you LGBT and or a pedophile?"

It is simple if you just want to twist and skew.

Not at all, I'm trying to get you to discuss some variables that not only might have but actually do have a significant effect on those numbers. Most acts of pedophilia are committed by close family members, fathers abusing their sons, brothers abusing their younger siblings, uncles their nephews. Do you honestly think that any but a tiny few of these would self-report as LGBT in a survey concerning adult sexuality?

The bad math is assuming there are only two sub-sets in play. Even I can see that and I am pretty bad at maths.

 

So homosexuals BY FAR disproportionately commit sexual crimes against children according to these numbers?

 

that is what the numbers say

the only way to claim otherwise is to claim that male on male sex is not homosexual when the age of the victim is under 18. You then claim it to be pedophilia and classify it without acknowledging the type of sex, so no hetero or homo pedophilia. That is where the movement is headed because it's easier to redefine words than to address problems.

To make it analogous to life, we now only count vehicles, to heck with whether they are trains, boats, airplanes, trucks, cars or bicycles.

 

I've repeatedly demonstrated otherwise. Like here for example:

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=321537&p=1063086483#post1063086483